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Poor Chuck is a pawn in this design. The worst thing that can happen for him is to land KM. They are looking at another losing season next year regardless. He'll throw his players and coaches under the bus, again. People don't change. He'll have to search far and wide to find another gullible group of recruits. He's done.

Best case for Chuck is NSD disaster and all the sips will talk about how close he was to greatness and what a master poker player he is. They achieve the same level of fail on the field, but he postpones the inevitable for another year.

That's how you do it, just stick to the truth.

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Probably more than a grain of truth to that. Mack was fired because he kept getting talent, but it didn't show up on the field on gamedays.

Even with a weak schedule, t.u. loses 6 this year.

t.u. getting a couple of 5 star recruits is like putting perfume on a turd.

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I hate to break it to you, but A&M is percieved as the school of racists, not Texas. Thats probably not fair, but thats the perception. Also, its not helping that you guys call our coach Chollie and Charkie. Anyone who doesn't know what that means (I didn't) ought to look it up before they use it.

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Funny, the only place in the entire ******* state I've ever been called the N word to my face was austin, texas.

Never had to dodge a bleach bomb @ TAMU, either, so kindly GFY

Charlie was not 1, 2, or even 3 on the sip lIst. He is in a offensive heavy conference and he has a defensive background. He came in all piss and vinegar to get rid of this country club mentality but had his entire team confused about what to buy into.

He isn't a bad coach. He just doesn't have the support structure to do well. He needed more HS connections in texas but is trying to rely on FL which will easily get picked clean by FSU and the rest.

I notice no one has directly addressed the "Charkie" references by some of your ilk. So what's up with that?

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I notice no one has directly addressed the "Charkie" references by some of your ilk. So what's up with that?

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Curious George is in big trouble now.

Seriously though, I have never heard it used in any way other than this book/cartoon. As dumb as it seems, I think the origins on here were in melding his name with a shark - IIRC, he was compared to a shark in some post & it sort of morphed into yet another nickname. You can't tell me there are not unflattering names floating freely on the Shag for Sumlin. I have lurked there for years (never caring enough to post) and seen the comments about him, about us - most highly offensive, some hilariously funny, but all expected in the immature land of college sports.

Also, I am not a 100% believer in everything I see on the Urban Dictionary site. If I was, man, you guys goofed up big time on the Stronghorn thing.

tbirdspur....... your experience in Austin doesn't surprise me.

Uh, no, I think "Charkie" is a bit more of a "goof-up" than "Stronghorns", don't you think? And that's assuming "Charkie" was a "goof-up"---not likely on this board. How do you think recruits would weigh in on either?

Strong will get at least four years. I'll flip the question back to you. When does Sumlin's seat begin to get hot?

If you go 3-5 in SEC play again in 2015 does it get warm? Do wins over Ball State, Nevada and Western Carolina hide the the downward trend?

Curious as to what your fan base thinks.

Sumlin's seat won't be warm as long as he goes 8-5 or better (9-4 after this year), wins his bowl, and recruits well. Last year's team was an anomaly imo since we had QB issues, attitude problems, an awful 3 game stretch, and a general rebuild playing a bunch of underclassmen on both sides of the ball

In all honesty, as an Aggie, talking football, here's my take:

Strong wasn't the splash hire the Big Money LH Boosters wanted. One of the biggest, Red, made that clear from the get go. Red backed off after talking to Strong, but he, and others, will be expecting big things, fairly quickly.

You can't judge a new coach based on his first year, especially in a situation Strong walked into. But you can bet everyone will be watching, closely, how he puts together a recruiting class, all on his own. Putting aside 2013 and 2014, for obvious reasons, Texas grew used to Top 10 and Top 5 classes. This will be Strong's first class, and he's looking at outside the Top 15. If he then goes into the season and shows regression, or even only slight improvement, that's the first flames of a hot seat. Then he has his second solo recruiting class. If that one fails to show improvement, say a Top 15 class, the flames get hotter. For his third season, the expectation will be significant improvement. Maybe not a championship, but a solid showing- top 3 in the B12, a good bowl game, probably a solid bowl win. Without that, I say Texas pulls the pin.

Sumlin has averaged 9.3 wins per season, after only signing 2 classes(3rd class right around the corner), in the toughest conference in college football.

Id say that is very impressive.

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Sumlin's seat won't be warm as long as he goes 8-5 or better (9-4 after this year), wins his bowl, and recruits well. Last year's team was an anomaly imo since we had QB issues, attitude problems, an awful 3 game stretch, and a general rebuild playing a bunch of underclassmen on both sides of the ball

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Some may conclude 8-5 in the SEC West, with a bowl win and a Top 10 recruiting class in a year when you've got a 1st year starting QB (and mid-season drama) and a soon-to-be-fired DC is good enough.