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Please explain why its super bowl "XLV"

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oldschool87
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I am not roman... But understand roman numerals... X is 10 I is 1, V is 5, L is 50 etc... 40 is XL ...


Why is super bowl 45. Not VL????
Instead of XLV....

Is there some rule about X?

DirtyAg
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X (10) before a bigger number L(50) means x less than L I.e. 40. The v is 5 added to the XL (40) making 45

FelipeDaAg
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You only subtract from like numbers (same digits).

IX for nine
XL for forty

So forty five is XL for forty and V for five
oldschool87
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I get that but does VL not also =45
TitanAGGIE09
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You can only decrease by powers of 10. So it has to be decreased by I, X, C, M etc
AggieVictor10
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I think it's because you have to get the "40" part of "45" first.


XL = 40

now add 5

"XL + V"

"forty five"

XLV

****, I don't know, I was just talking out of my ass anyway, the dude above me has it right, I think.

[This message has been edited by AggieVictor10 (edited 1/21/2011 8:38p).]
AnalogyAg
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Here's why:

in our system, we say "45", which means forty and five.

We don't say 50-5 (fifty minus five)

40 in Roman is XL 5 is V

So 45 is forty and five, or XLV

you're welcome.
AggieVictor10
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coconutED
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Every "digit" follows the same pattern. For example, the ones digits are written as follows:

1: I
2: II
3: III
4: IV
5: V
6: VI
7: VII
8: VIII
9: IX

Then the tens digits:

10: X
20: XX
30: XXX
40: XL
50: L
60: LX
70: LXX
80: LXXX
90: XC

hundreds digits:

100: C
200: CC
300: CCC
400: CD
500: D
600: DC
700: DCC
800: DCCC
900: CM

etc, etc.

Anyone who learns and masters the pattern can identify numbers written in roman numeral just as easily as you and I can with Arabic numbers.
oldschool87
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I said above I understood that XLV was 45!

My question was why was VL not 45.

The poster who said you must subtract in a factor of 10 seems correct although I still need to think.

The poster who said we dont think 50 - 5 is incorrect as we don't have to get to 5 to get to 9. IX = 9. Not VIIII.

Anyway it made for an interesting dinner conversation....
oldschool87
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Ding ding we have a winner... Thanks coconut!!!
wheelsoff
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i say the texans finally get there at CM...
bsilvia15
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i wanna live to see superbowl C hahaha that would look so stupid at mid field

[This message has been edited by bsilvia15 (edited 1/21/2011 9:35p).]
texasag_01
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What about superbowl DIX?
Bockaneer
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I think the patterns are also designed to minimize the lines/characters used to represent since those numbers took so long to carve in granite - that's why 9 is IX and not VIIII
DecadePlan
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Just taught my fourth graders Roman numerals. All 4s and 9s are created by a subtraction combination involving a smaller number reducing a larger one. Only i's, X's and C's can reduce another number larger than itself. None can reduce a Roman number more than two spots higher [I can only reduce V (5)and X(10), X can only reduce L (50) and C (100), and C can only reduce D (500) and M (1000)]. V, L and D cannot reduce another numeral. This means that no letter will be used more than three times in a row. 4 is IV (5-1), 9 is IX (10-1), 40 is XL (50-10), 90 is XC (100-10), 400 is CD (500-100) and 900 is CM (1000-100).

After MMMCMXCIX (3999), 4000 is created by writing an IV with a line over it. And so on.

Confused? Yeah, so were they.
DecadePlan
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By the way, the mnemonic I used was "I Value Xylophones Like Cows Dig Milk" (1,5,10,50,100,500,1000)
hbc07
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interesting, i didn't know only I X and C could reduce numbers
Jugstore Cowboy
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my 2 years of high school Latin always make me feel good in discussions like this.
dcAg
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Good Lord. Where did you go to Elementary School?

I learned this in like 3rd grade!
DecadePlan
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And I learned that "like" was a verb rather than an adjective in 3rd grade. (grin)
twright10
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ROMAN NUMERALS ARE STOOPID.

THAT'S WHY THAT STOPID CONTININT BURND DOWN.
oldschool87
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Looks like you could not read in the 3rd grade.

Read the post before you declare yourself omni present....
chipotle
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Rocky 7!!! Adrian's Revenge!!!
pdaddy
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I am Roman. A Roman Aggie. I like it.
Jugstore Cowboy
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whole lot of nerdy anger in this thread. relax everyone, we're all dorks.

Let's move on to something less controversial like Lucas' re-edits of the Star Wars IV-VI.

[This message has been edited by Aggro (edited 1/21/2011 11:22p).]
Old Sarge
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Need to look back, but was Superbowl 30 marketed as Superbowl XXX?


funky07time
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Who cares?
Typortak
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Simple AND correct explanation:


There are many different random combinations romans used

X=20
V=63
I=12
L=love (or zero)

so adding the first few numbers in the tens digit divided by the ones digit, you end up with Super Bowl XLV or simply "Xuper boVL"

[This message has been edited by Typortak (edited 1/22/2011 12:32a).]
Bonfired
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The Roman numeral system also had no representation for zero.

I'd like to go to Super Bowl L in 5 years...first time in 40 years that it would be a single letter, erm, numeral.
Waffle_Release_Date
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Confusing numbers. Damn Romans, did they ever give us ANYTHING worth while?
TatteredShoeLace
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Lion fights.
redline248
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Government, engineering, arts...
King O Frod
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Candles that shoot balls of fire
coconutED
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