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less money - A&M is getting $20mil from the big 12. Did anyone in the SEC get that much?

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1. The $20 million isn't real till its in the bank.

2. The $20 million is a one time promise, in the SEC $17 million is a yearly thing.

3. In the SEC we would make the extra 3 million difference off ticket and merchandise sales.

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CBS is a distant second.

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CBS has been the top network seven of the last eight years:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/cbs_remains_dominant_again_mos.html

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do you think the SEC would be considered Fla, LSU, A&M and then a bunch of other also rans?

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Its simple math:

Texas talent + Being the only Texas SEC team = A real shot at being worth a sh*t in the SEC.

Its TCU's Mountain West formula with a twist.

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So, basically, tu is now the Yankees and we are _______?

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the rangers? In financial trouble yet still beat the giant.

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from espn.com: "...Included in the coverage will be at least one exclusive football game..."

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...better not be the game I'm thinking of...

Really? We're talking about exposure for college football and which network has the best college football exposure and you pull out prime time network rankings?

Whatever. I'm not here to argue. I personally don't care if you go to the SEC or not. I just question the sense of it and wonder if it is well thought out or just a knee jerk reaction because you want to get away from Texas. And if that is the case I would just say be careful what you wish for and the grass isn't always greener and all that stuff.

Anything, including the WAC, would be better than the new Big 12. We can start new rivalries with Texas State and UTSA.

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Texas talent + Being the only Texas SEC team = A real shot at being worth a sh*t in the SEC.

Its TCU's Mountain West formula with a twist.

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This is why I love ya'll.

Hook 'Em Horns

Hellraiser97

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This is why I love ya'll.

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And that sense of arrogance and entitlement is why we hate yall.


For the record though, there must be some merit to the whole "A&M can use the SEC to boost its brand and capture more Texas talent" or you sips would be on a PAC16 rivals messageboard right now...

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For the record though, there must be some merit to the whole "A&M can use the SEC to boost its brand and capture more Texas talent" or you sips would be on a PAC16 rivals messageboard right now...

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Ohh, we can only wish. No more November games in Kansas and Iowa!

Hook 'Em Horns

Hellraiser97

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"Ya'll can go to Hell, I'm-a-goin' to TEXAS" -- Davy Crockett

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For the record though, there must be some merit to the whole "A&M can use the SEC to boost its brand and capture more Texas talent" or you sips would be on a PAC16 rivals messageboard right now...

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Ohh, we can only wish. No more November games in Kansas and Iowa!

Hook 'Em Horns

Hellraiser97

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"Ya'll can go to Hell, I'm-a-goin' to TEXAS" -- Davy Crockett

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UIL falling under any single state public university = conflict of interest.

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Texas controlling the UIL is a state law that was enacted in 1909. Talk to the gov.

Not sure why that's a conflict of interest. What do we stand to gain by it? It's not like the UIL falling under our purview means we can use that to talk kids into playing for our school or anything. Just asking though because I may just not see it.

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Ohh, we can only wish. No more November games in Kansas and Iowa!

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Right, because eastern Washington in November will be much better...

ESPN creates whorntv, ok.

Big XII-II goes for new tv deal this spring...Fox pays up huge money to get said deal. Why? because if they can get all the marquee football and basketball games then that means ESPN is left with shat-whorn programming that nobody outside of austin will want to watch. Nobody watching=no advertisements=ESPN whorntv blows up in their face.

All that is based upon tu remaining in the Big XII-II. If they go indy, then all tu games are on tv which = disaster for a&m.

And the SEC doesn't want A&M unless other conferences go to 16. And A&M staying or leaving is controlled by more than just the BOR.

this deal will not last past the first 5 years. no one is going to pay to watch women's swimming and diving.

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Right, because eastern Washington in November will be much better...

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...which would only happen once every 8 yrs

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It's not like the UIL falling under our purview means we can use that to talk kids into playing for our school

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the UIL has been under Texas' purview, by law, since 1909. keep up.

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...which would only happen once every 8 yrs

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explain.

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Damn, $15 mil per year is a lot of dough.

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They're tied to this puppy for 20 years!! That $15 mil will be worth half as much 20 years from now if they're lucky. So really they'll be lucky to get $9-10 mil/year in real terms out of this.
It also locks them out of all major conferences. The Pac 10 wasnt going to let them have a separate tv deal and wont now. If the Pac 10 wont neither will the SEC or Big 10.

So basically they signed their conference prospects away for $9mil/year over 20 years.

If the Big 12-2 is forced to accept much less cash because of TU's actions its just a matter or time until someone bolts. Once that happens the Big 12-2 is dead.

The countdown to TU going it alone just began. Its the best thing for the *****s they will learn some humbleness the hard way.

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This is why I love ya'll.

Hook 'Em Horns

Hellraiser97

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You're the biggest idiots of all time signing this deal. ESPN opened up a box and scooted you into it like an owner putting a dog in a crate.
They own you now for 20 years for a pittance when you take into account inflation.
The ironic thing is that TU thinks this deal is somehow putting control in their hands when the reality is they just handed the power to all the Big 12-2 teams. All it takes is one team to leave the conference to send TU to the football wilderness.
You guys better pray you come roaring back next season, because if you have anything resembling this season next year you are looking at years and years of the football desert.
Look at USC's fall no one cares about a loser. Even if they do believe they are gods gift. You'll be the butt of jokes like Notre Lame is now once the novelty of seeing you choke on tv goes away.

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can't find the espn link, but TX would be in the east div, only playing 1/4 of west div teams, alternating, combined with alternating home/away schedules. clear as mud? best I can do bro. similiar to prev B12 schedules between north/west, except it would be spread out more due to it being 16 teams.

[This message has been edited by USMCGunner (edited 1/19/2011 5:14p).]

USNCGunner,

I know, that was kind of my point. The UIL has always been under UT's purview. Not sure how that constitutes a conflict of interest unless there is some way that we can use that to our advantage for some sort of gain.

It apparently hasn't caused any problems for the last 100 years.

If I was a sip, I would be laughing my ass off.

Explain to me again why we didn't go to the SEC? Because of the projected revenue from the Big 12-2 network?

I mean, the Big 12-2-2 network?

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I know, that was kind of my point. The UIL has always been under UT's purview. Not sure how that constitutes a conflict of interest unless there is some way that we can use that to our advantage for some sort of gain.

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Because it hasn't really been treated publically like it was until now.

Good points Barron. Looks like tu is stupid or wants to be independent.

Ya'll can go independent, and I will go to the SEC.

ES&D sip.

Well, looks like we know who the ESPN analysts will be voting for come poll time.

And to think, the offseason just started. Looks like it picked up right where the last offseason ended. We've got months to beotch about this stuff.

So who has already email $B with a "DOH!" kinda email?

Poor $B...as good a AD as we have, he consistenly out-thought, out-played, out-smarted by his nemesis...here is hoping the whole affair is an utter failure for tu!

Thankfully, I will not smell this cow up here in NY...they could care less about Syracuse here, so no chance of cow TV...

if you want to e-mail someone, e-mail Loftin, he made the decision to stay in the big 12, not the BOR or Byrne

To 1,000,000 touchdowns...and beyond

I hate the sips. Just saying.

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The UIL has always been under UT's purview. Not sure how that constitutes a conflict of interest unless there is some way that we can use that to our advantage for some sort of gain.

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I really hope my sarcasm meter is busted and that school in Austin is not putting out complete morons. Try this scenario:

"Alright team, don't forget to watch the replay of our game tomorrow on the LONGHORN network."

****!!!

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the UIL has been under Texas' purview, by law, since 1909. keep up.

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Equivalent organizations in other states have been separated from individual schools. It's been posted on here before, and because Texags knows stuff it'd be smart not to question it but accept it as fact.

I agree that the UIL should be seperated. That said, we'd likely still be able to acquire the media rights for our network.

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explain.

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With 2 16 team divisions, you'd have 7 division games and 2 other division games each year. So, assuming that you are playing a home and home arraingement, if we had both UW and WSU in 2011 and 2012, we'd make one trip to Washington each year, but then they would not come back onto the schedule for another 6 years as we'd have home and homes with say USC-UCLA, Stanford Cal and Oregon-OSU in two year increments. So it averages out to one trip every four years to each school in the other division.

And hell, Seattle is a hell of a better trip than Kansas or Iowa anyway! Too bad....

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They own you now for 20 years for a pittance when you take into account inflation.

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You must have missed the clause where the number can be adjusted up depending on ratings and profitability.

Hook 'Em Horns

Hellraiser97

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You must have missed the clause where the number can be adjusted up depending on ratings and profitability.

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so it could go down then?

seriously who wants to watch a trash channel like that? And its not because its the sips.

I wouldnt pay for an A&M channel either.


And on top of that, the sips already have a tv channel of sorts. Its called BEVOD and most people have never heard of it because it blows.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLibrary/4/149/Content%20Management/Learn/programming/sports/BEVOD.pdf

yep that real gripping entertainment. Look at the big ten network channel. No one gives a crap about it and it covers the enitre conference.

Channels/networks are good because the spend a lot of time and money to produce quality shows.

as much money as the sips have they are not ESPN, Discovery Channel, or Comedy Central. They have a lot less money for production and a much smaller audience.


[This message has been edited by nai06 (edited 1/20/2011 10:13a).]

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I agree that the UIL should be seperated. That said, we'd likely still be able to acquire the media rights for our network.

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Why not just pay your recruits and cut out the middle man?