Rule 1 - '99 4Runner

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Aston 91
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Just got myself an early Christmas present/project. 1999 4Runner Limited with 146k miles. The lady across the street from us passed away a couple of years ago and I'd gotten to know the estate executor pretty well. He would come over periodically and drive this around the block, but today I saw him putting temporary tags on it, so I asked him what he was going to do with it. He said a local garage offered him $1500, but he'd let me have it for $1250. It's been garaged its entire life and is very clean on the outside, but will need a deep cleaning inside. Will also be changing the oil, coolant, transmission fluid, brake fluid and probably power steering fluid. I think she maintained it pretty well and I've heard good things about the 3.4 (fingers crossed), but anything in particular that I should take a look at?

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Probably needs a timing belt, water pump, spark plugs, and new tires. Maybe a new battery. Change the fluids. Maybe new pads & rotors. Might have a gasket leak...valve or head.

That's going to be too much work for you. I'll buy it from you for $1,750, negotiable.
Martin Q. Blank
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Tundra brake caliper upgrade.
Ag for Life
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Nice score!
AgGrad99
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That's a great deal!

I had a '98 in that model and loved it. I probably had that many miles on it in 2004 when I traded it in.
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sounds like a 1ags deal
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Love those trucks! Check for the strawberry milkshake in the radiator. This happens when transmission fluid from the transmission cooler mixes with the coolant. It's not good for the transmission.

Great buy!
Aston 91
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Thanks for the tip. I remember that being an issue with some of the Nissan Xterras but didn't realize it also could be an issue with the 4Runner. I've driven it around the hood and it seems to shift fine, but will definitely check out the coolant and transmission fluid when I change it. So far the biggest issue will be cleaning the interior. My neighbor was a Hall of Fame member of the local Golden Retriever rescue and has fostered about 50 dogs over the years. As a result, there is a metric **** ton of dog hair in every nook and cranny, but if that's the biggest issue I have I'll consider myself very lucky.
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Timing belt and water pump, new plugs, new belts, check tires for dry rot
Mas89
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See if they have the service records at the local dealership or wherever she had it serviced.
Maybe all the things mentioned above have already been done.
GrapevineAg
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Good suggestion, and I'll add to check the toyota.com/owners site for records too.
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Unless its been running synthetic oil all this time, keep conventional in there but go high mileage. My recommendation is Penzoil but there are several good oil brands in that category. Switching to synthetic will likely bring about leaks.

Is the paint/body in good condition? At some point, you can always consider an X-liner paint job. I know many will laugh/ridicule that, but if done professionally it really looks cool and will last a long time with virtually no maintenance.

Depending on the condition of the interior, I'd also look at replacing the cloth with sport fabric seats. They are fabric seats that wear far better and handle dirt and moisture. I might change the carpet out, but I know some would say that is unnecessary. If you choose to clean the upholstery, go light to moderate with the cleaner (i.e. don't overspray), scrub with either a brush, drill brush, or one attached to a dual action, then use an extractor to get everything up. I also recommend a Tornador cleaning tool. It attaches to your air compressor and "lifts" up the dirt and essentially moves it away. The tornador in addition with the other stuff (not to mention a steamer if you have one) will make that interior almost brand new. Both Griots and Chemical Guys make good interior cleaners. Griots is a little lighter cleaner, but the CG properly diluted still works well. I use them both -- CG mostly on carpet.
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Wife had a 1998. The 3.4 seemed underpowered so I added a k&n cold air induction and it picked up a lot more passing power and improved the gas mileage.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/knn-57-9015-1/make/toyota/model/4runner/year/1999

The downside is it sounds like an evinrude 100 hp boat motor when you open it up to accelerate quickly. Check the timing belt for sure and change all the fluids and belts and at least the radiator hoses. I would also change the plugs and fuel filter.
Aston 91
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Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. Among the dog hair I've found several Kwik Kar receipts for oil changes (and possibly other service) but unfortunately that location just closed last month, so I don't think I'll be able to get any old records - but I'll keep looking, and will ask the executor if he happens to have any. While filthy, the interior is leather and the only real wear issue is on the driver side outer bolster. Not sure how I'll address that. I know I could spend half of what I paid for the vehicle on custom fit leather covers, but that seems counterproductive to what I have in mind for this project. The exterior paint, dash and steering wheel ( areas that generally deteriorate in older cars) are in immaculate condition so that is a plus and it is certainly a result of being garaged its entire life.
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Aston 91 said:

Thanks for the tip. I remember that being an issue with some of the Nissan Xterras but didn't realize it also could be an issue with the 4Runner. I've driven it around the hood and it seems to shift fine, but will definitely check out the coolant and transmission fluid when I change it. So far the biggest issue will be cleaning the interior. My neighbor was a Hall of Fame member of the local Golden Retriever rescue and has fostered about 50 dogs over the years. As a result, there is a metric **** ton of dog hair in every nook and cranny, but if that's the biggest issue I have I'll consider myself very lucky.

Consider steam cleaning the interior after to vacuum the hair out. This is the one I own: https://a.co/d/9go3Gdn


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Damn, Merry Christmas!

I sold my manual 98 Tacoma TRD during my dumb 20 year old phase and wish I never had. That vintage Toyota is a great truck and you got it for a steal.
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Second Gen Xterras. First gens had no cooler. As for Toyotas, the 3.0 had some head gasket issues but the 3.4 didn't seem to have that problem so much.
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GrapevineAg said:

Love those trucks! Check for the strawberry milkshake in the radiator. This happens when transmission fluid from the transmission cooler mixes with the coolant. It's not good for the transmission.

Great buy!

I checked the coolant this morning and thankfully no SMOD (strawberry milkshake of death). Based on my quick review of 4Runner forums it sounds like replacing the radiator proactively is a good idea, so I'll likely do that. Some people bypass the factory cooler altogether with an auxiliary cooler, but that can introduce other failure points - as I can personally attest to with the van sitting in the driveway next to the 4Runner.
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Good deal, glad to hear that. 7-8 years ago I passed on a '98 4wd SR5. I suspected that it was a flood vehicle from Hurricane Harvey, but I still wish I had bought it. I could have replaced the carpet and other soft stuff pretty easily. There wasn't any rust on it. Glad you took the plunge here - great vehicles that can go 400k easy if taken care of.
Aston 91
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Part of my motivation for taking the plunge on this is regret over letting my '02 Trooper go after the transmission gave out. The shop gave me a fair estimate on what it would cost to rebuild the transmission, but it was more than I wanted to spend on a vehicle that old so I sold it to the shop for peanuts. Regretted it ever since - there's just something about the solid feel on this era of Japanese vehicles - or at least the Toyotas and Isuzus I've driven, as well as my '02 Honda S2000.
Aston 91
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So as an update, I was able to get some service records on the 4Runner. Previous owner had it serviced in November 2022 at one of those franchise places (creatively named) "Oil Changers + Repair". At least now I have some idea of when the fluids were changed and what was used, but I'll still definitely be changing out the coolant very soon (it looks dirty as crap) and probably doing most of the other fluids in the near future. I was able to get a Toyota radiator on sale so I'll replace it and the hoses when I do the coolant. Looking at this receipt is a reminder why I never use these places. They charged her $141 just for a damn oil change, and $718 total for oil, transmission, coolant and differential fluid changes and some kind of intake cleaner.

Also, when I met up with the estate executor to get docs for the title transfer and to actually write out the check to buy it, he said "Just make it an even $1,000 instead of $1,250." OK, will do. I've spent way more than the purchase price on new tires, lower ball joints, axle reseal kits, radiator and rear hatch struts, but this is a vehicle I don't mind investing in - unlike my previous commuter econobox Chevy Sonic. So far I'm resisting my normal cheap ******* tendencies and buying Toyota OEM parts. Got her washed and realized the color looks quite different with a decade+ of dirt removed.



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Maybe my all time favorite vehicle. Still look great!
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Headlights look great, no cataracts!
MouthBQ98
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That generation is the perfect looking SUV. Always a favorite of mine.
Aston 91
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Jaydoug said:

Headlights look great, no cataracts!

I was pleasantly surprised to find glass lenses on the headlights. The stock bulbs aren't terrible, but I may upgrade to these if I feel the need to improve them:
Philips RacingVision GT200 H4 Headlight Bulbs

If anyone has tried these please let me know how you liked them.
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We had a 2000 4Runner that threw a rod at about 110k and 8 years old. When I looked into it after the fact, there were some reports of those engines experiencing oil gelling and several that threw the same rod #5 under similar circumstances (8-10 years old 100-150k miles; accelerating to pass another car at highway speeds). I don't think I ever saw a cause for it determined, but I would keep up very religiously with your oil changes, keep an eye out for leaks, and use a quality motor oil. I would also avoid hammering the throttle to pass in situations where you can accelerate less aggressively. In my case, I was trying to accelerate to go around a slow poke going up the BW-8 ramp NB to the Katy Freeway WB. I coasted down the ramp, off the exit, and rolled it into Don Mcgill. There are too many out that that went 200k plus without any issues to think it was a chronic issue, but it is something to keep in mind when planning your maintenance and deciding how to drive it.
Aston 91
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Thanks for letting me know - that's the kind of insider info that keeps me browsing the TexAgs auto board. I will definitely keep up on the oil changes and will do my best to refrain from hammering the throttle, which shouldn't be too hard to resist - I've got the S2000 to drive when I want to mash the go pedal.
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