When I traded in my 2017 Alfa Quadrifgoglio for a new 2024 version, several wise individuals on this board cautioned me about Stellantis and their lack of reliability.

Well, you were right.

I picked up my new Giulia in February. In has been in the shop (90 miles away) three times for the same problem, plus an initial trip for diagnosis. These trips account for about 25% of the miles on the car.

The dealer has also had the car in their shop for about a month in total, or 20% of the time since delivery.

I believe I am squarely within the realm of the Florida lemon law, though I am definitely not an expert on that subject. To execute on the lemon law, my next step would be a certified/registered letter to Stellantis followed by allowing them one last attempt to correct the problem, before demanding a refund or replacement.

The problem, by the way is an intermittent "check engine" light, plus two occasions of no electronic throttle control (i.e. you step on the pedal and nothing happens).

They have replaced a few cylinder valves and on the last occasion replaced the entire engine harness.

My question for those in the industry is this:

Am I better off sending the certified letter and making this an adversarial process or should I try to work with the GM of the dealership?

I am not looking for legal advice, just some practical thoughts from those who have lived on the other side of this issue.

I mean if they'll work with you on a buy-back that seems, by far, like the path of least resistance.

That stinks, sorry you are having to deal with this. I can't personally help, I've never had to make a lemon claim (I very rarely even buy a new car), but I know others here have posted about them fighting a lemon over the years. Hopefully someone can chime in and assist - good luck!

Big Shoulders said:

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When I traded in my 2017 Alfa Quadrifgoglio for a new 2024 version, several wise individuals on this board cautioned me about Stellantis and their lack of reliability.

Well, you were right.

I picked up my new Giulia in February. In has been in the shop (90 miles away) three times for the same problem, plus an initial trip for diagnosis. These trips account for about 25% of the miles on the car.

The dealer has also had the car in their shop for about a month in total, or 20% of the time since delivery.

I believe I am squarely within the realm of the Florida lemon law, though I am definitely not an expert on that subject. To execute on the lemon law, my next step would be a certified/registered letter to Stellantis followed by allowing them one last attempt to correct the problem, before demanding a refund or replacement.

The problem, by the way is an intermittent "check engine" light, plus two occasions of no electronic throttle control (i.e. you step on the pedal and nothing happens).

They have replaced a few cylinder valves and on the last occasion replaced the entire engine harness.

My question for those in the industry is this:

Am I better off sending the certified letter and making this an adversarial process or should I try to work with the GM of the dealership?

I am not looking for legal advice, just some practical thoughts from those who have lived on the other side of this issue.

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That sucks. Cool car.

NoahAg said:

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OP, did you not notice the "Alpha Romeo" emblem when you bought it??

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I deserve that.

The 2017 version was great (other than needing a new engine at 35,000 miles, which was pretty easy and covered by warranty). Thought i would roll the dice again because I do love the car.

You should name your car Julia

Clever!

Most state's lemon law has fee shifting. So manufacturer pays your atty fees if you win. As such most lemon law attorneys won't charge you. They will get the facts, if they take the case 99% chance you win. Plus if the manufacturer gets the letter from atty vs individual it will move a lot faster.

The risk/reward curve on Italians starts with F and ends with L. Others do not apply. Alfa and Maz are out. They are all too high strung to be daily drivers.

Trade up to Toyota/Lexus.