steve00 said:
Guitarsoup said:
steve00 said:
The ideal use case for an EV is a commuter car that you only charge at home while it is parked in your garage, and you have a gas car for any longer trips.
It sounds like that is probably your situation, so the Tesla charging network is completely irrelevant.
While ideal, there are times when life happens and you need to get a quick charge. That's easy in a Tesla, and significantly less easy in any other EV. And nice to not worry about having to drive to one of the other big cities in Texas or to NOLA in it, since there are plenty of quick and easy places to charge.
I have an EV that is not a Tesla, and I've never had a hard time charging publicly when I've needed to. I agree that the Tesla charging network is the best, but it also has the most users, so more likely to have a line.
There are places to charge, but not many places that you can charge very quickly. Tesla has the Supercharging network where you can charge much faster than the vast majority of regular chargers.
In my 3.5 years with a Tesla, I have not once waited to charge at a Tesla-specific charger. Often, the non-Tesla chargers only have 1 or 2 chargers and they are often full, because there are so few.
Additionally, a Tesla can charge at any charger (Tesla or non-Tesla), while a non-Tesla like yours or my wife's PHEV cannot charge at any Tesla.
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My beef on this thread is the people saying you should obviously buy a Tesla because the charging network is better. That is not true, as almost all charging takes place at home. If you do enough public charging that the charging network makes a difference, then an EV probably isn't the best choice for you.
It is a massive advantage to be able to charge at any EV Charging place. Most of mine is done at home, but not all.
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If you are making long drives in an EV that require charging during your trip, then you have already self-selected to do something that is less convenient than driving a gas car.
Depends on the trip. I'm from San Antonio and live in Houston. Making that trip in my Tesla or a gas car doesn't really have any difference to me as far as convenience and charging. If I was driving to Big Bend, then the Tesla would be significantly less convenient.
But driving a non-Tesla would be significantly less convenient for me, because there aren't the abundance of quick charging stations on the trip.
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EV people need to stop pretending that they can recharge their battery in the time it takes to go to the bathroom and buy some chips. That isn't real. Anyone with a gas car can add 300-400 miles in range within 5 minutes. You can't do that with an EV.
No one is pretending that.
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I have an EV, and it is superior to a gas car for my commute and tooling around town. In all of my long drive scenarios, my gas car is better.
Sure, on a long road trip across country, a gas car is more convenient, no one is arguing that.
There are drive scenarios where a Tesla is superior to non-Tesla EVs. There are not any scenarios I have seen where a non-Tesla EV has an advantage. If I am missing something, let me know.
Tesla has the biggest charge network.
Tesla has the biggest fast charge network.
Tesla can use all non-Tesla chargers.
These are major advantages, and why other car manufacturers are going to be buying into the Tesla network.