Rivian R1S

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Someone at work has one of these. They look much better than the truck version IMO.

What did you end up paying with TTL? Mid $70s?
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All in, $84k, including wall charger. I think current prices would be right around $100k, all in. I think they're selling around that in the after-market, but that will likely decrease over time. They're listed at $105-120k+ on eBay right now.
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If you're all in at $84k wouldn't you not be eligible for the tax credit? Or are the add-ons, like the charger, more than $4k?

Edit: nm, just saw that includes TTL

I guess I also just never thought of these as being eligible for the tax credit based on income limits.....
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htxag09 said:

If you're all in at $84k wouldn't you not be eligible for the tax credit? Or are the add-ons, like the charger, more than $4k?

Edit: nm, just saw that includes TTL

I guess I also just never thought of these as being eligible for the tax credit based on income limits.....
Income limits don't exist anymore for vehicle purchases, at least for low income.

As long as you make $300 a week you can get a loan for anything these days

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I agree the SUV looks better than the truck, but I have to admit the truck is starting to look better to me every time I see one.
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bam02 said:

I agree the SUV looks better than the truck, but I have to admit the truck is starting to look better to me every time I see one.

I think rivian did excellent with both. May be my favorite looking suv on the road. I'm just not ready to drop $80+k on a brand new manufacturers suv.
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FInally picking up my Rivian R1S today. Pre-pickup updates:

- The original estimated delivery date was 5/20, and they blamed slow freight traffic for the additional delay.
- They shipped the home charger a couple months ago, and I took the risk and installed it early (several weeks ago). It looks nice - we'll see how it charges.
- When arranging online payment, I thought I was signing up for an ACH method to be used at delivery, and actually, they immediately transacted the purchase price, so be prepared for quick service on that aspect.
- Their trade-in value offer was significantly (10%+) lower than other alternatives, so even with the potential sales tax savings, it made more sense to sell the trade-in myself. Incidentally, my CarMax offer was superior to the 3-4 others I tried. And the CarMax offer went down about 4% from their initial offer I got over a month ago. I guess used car prices are on the retreat, after all.

I'll report back in a week or so (if I remember) to describe my first impressions of Rivian ownership.
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SUV looks really good. I have an order for the Cyber.


If they had it come with NACS, I would probably get one.
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Rivian going NACS in 2025, access to Supercharger network in 2024

https://rivian.com/newsroom/article/rivian-accelerates-electrification-through-adoption-of-north-american-charging-standard-and-access-to-teslas-supercharger-network
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Not R1S, it's the truck. But interesting nonetheless, I thought they still had a waiting list.

WSJ: Rivian Tries Selling Trucks Out of Its Factory Parking Lot EV startup experiments with in-person shopping event at its plant in Normal, Ill., as stock levels build
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Almost two weeks into the ownership experience. All in all, about what I expected. Observations:

- Delivery and purchase was pretty seamless. The tech noted a minor paint flaw (we later noticed a few more) and showed us how to initiate a service ticket (on the app, of course). As expected, the appointment isn't till August, as it's not a functional need.
- The Rivian "Guide" has been helpful by email and phone call appointment in getting us over several usage questions.
- Took the R1S on a 200 mile round trip, and it performs just fine as a road vehicle. Given the high temperatures, I expected the range to drain more quickly than it actually has. A full charge indicates 347 miles, but I haven't tested it. Official range is 314 miles, I think.
- Fast (Medium) Charging at home indicates a recharge rate of 21 miles per hour, right in the middle of the 15-25 expected. Haven't yet used public level 3 fast-charging, but the Tesla adapter will be reassuring, once it comes out.
- The two hardest things to get used to are 1) the lack of a power button - it's unnerving to walk away and not see it lock itself (which it does once you get out of phone bluetooth range), and 2) the regenerative braking - even at low setting, it brings you to a stop by itself. You can literally go an hour only hitting the brake pedal a couple of times.
- The AC system and huge fixed sunroofs were a big concern initially, but it hasn't really been a problem so far, even in the 106 degree heat. My other vehicle has been struggling just as much to reach a reasonable temperature.
- It looks good, and drives well. I still haven't tested the 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds, but it has plenty of power for everything I need.

Overall, this customer is satisfied.
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Saw one of these the other day dropping off my kid at school. The lady driver said she needed a fast SUV instead of her Ram TRX she traded in.

It looked nice and she loved it.
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Saw this rare sight on road


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I bleed maroon said:


- It looks good, and drives well. I still haven't tested the 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds
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Complete Idiot said:

I bleed maroon said:


- It looks good, and drives well. I still haven't tested the 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds

Find a flat straight, quiet road. Put it Sport (lowest suspension setting). Step on brake + Accelerator. Let go of brake. It will give you all 830hp if it has traction to do so. I rarely do it in my truck, but it will make you giggle every time.
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Chasing Trail said:

Complete Idiot said:

I bleed maroon said:


- It looks good, and drives well. I still haven't tested the 0-60 time of 3.2 seconds

Find a flat straight, quiet road. Put it Sport (lowest suspension setting). Step on brake + Accelerator. Let go of brake. It will give you all 830hp if it has traction to do so. I rarely do it in my truck, but it will make you giggle every time.
Yes, and I would do it first thing when picking up a Rivian - I was marveling at I bleed maroon's patience. I'm assuming EV's don't have a "break in" number of miles like a ICE vehicle, but probably wise to test out everything before putting it through that power application.
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I did specifically ask about a break-in period, and they said that none is required.

So far, I have only driven the dang thing a couple times (once was today for lunch). The other was the 200 mile roadtrip with a load of passengers.

BUT, thanks for the refresher on the fast launch procedure - I will definitely check this out at some point. That is, once I find a suitable road in Austin - too many messy lakes, hills and rivers, here. I miss Houston.

I think the wife is down to one ongoing concern - ingress is too high (especially when wearing a dress). She wants me to put running boards on it - I'm saying no way, and it's working, so far.
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I bleed maroon said:

I did specifically ask about a break-in period, and they said that none is required.

So far, I have only driven the dang thing a couple times (once was today for lunch). The other was the 200 mile roadtrip with a load of passengers.

BUT, thanks for the refresher on the fast launch procedure - I will definitely check this out at some point. That is, once I find a suitable road in Austin - too many messy lakes, hills and rivers, here. I miss Houston.

I think the wife is down to one ongoing concern - ingress is too high (especially when wearing a dress). She wants me to put running boards on it - I'm saying no way, and it's working, so far.
Enjoy - they look great and seem like awesome machines.
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I bleed maroon- can you comment more on the sunroof? I just imagine my kids getting in a hot car then have the sun still beating down on them while waiting for this thing to cool off. How much is the sun dimmed with the tinting?
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Sure. Given first impressions from the test drives, we thought that would be our main frustration, and possibly a primary reason to sell it instead of keep it. I checked into window tint before purchasing, and even bought a makeshift sun shade (made for an RV front window, but happens to cover 95%+ of the sunroof), and was prepared to be very disappointed. Well . . .

Even in 106 degree weather, we haven't really noticed it at all. They have done one or two over-the-air upgrades to the air conditioning system, and it has really performed well - better than my '23 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. The sun glare hasn't bothered rear-seat passengers, even in mid-day.

So, I can't explain why it has outperformed expectations, but it hasn't been noticable at all. Haven't even opened the sun shade package. Much worry over nothing, as it turns out.
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Ceramic tint - if it doesn't have it - will make it a non issue.
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Only posting here because I couldn't find a R1T thread - saw something this morning that I never expected which was an R1T hauling an enclosed double horse bumper pull trailer, with at least 1 horse riding along. Tried to snap a picture of the R1T doing truck stuff, but managed to take a photo of my dash instead.
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That's cool! Count me in on the band wagon, I've put the deposit down to reserve an R1S. I don't really need one for 2 years or so, we'll see how quick the turnaround is.

Also will be considering the Volvo EX-90 when it comes out.
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2 min mark

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Rivian just unveiled their R2, R3, and R3X. They are suppose to be cheaper and smaller than the R1T and R1S, but with just as much performance and range. Also they now use the Tesla charging connector (NACS) instead of CCS.












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https://www.instagram.com/p/C4OyeC9Pw5d/?igsh=MTBhcTczY3pkajU1MA==
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Here is the pic in the link. I kind of dig it
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R2 looks like a bronco sport
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R3X is giving me Delta Integrale vibes. I want one

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The R2 is the first EV I'd ever seriously consider. Love the styling.
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Flaith said:

R3X is giving me Delta Integrale vibes. I want one

That's what I thought too during the reveal, but with the ride height of an AMC Eagle.
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Just wanted to bump and say the R3X does look sexual.

@IBM - can we get an update a year later on your R1S ownership?
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I'm interested in a 1 year update post as well.

I was on the list for an R1T back in like 2018 or so, then cancelled my order during covid and a few months later bought an F350 instead.

Then I got on the list for an R1S for my wife, went and test drove one, and cancelled my order because of it. Would have taken delivery a long time ago. Interested to hear what it's been like living with it long term.
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Mateo84 said:

I'm interested in a 1 year update post as well.

I was on the list for an R1T back in like 2018 or so, then cancelled my order during covid and a few months later bought an F350 instead.

Then I got on the list for an R1S for my wife, went and test drove one, and cancelled my order because of it. Would have taken delivery a long time ago. Interested to hear what it's been like living with it long term.
Mateo: Actually, not that different an update than the few-months-in version. Other than a few minor issues, we are very happy overall. A few thoughts:

  • The sunshade worry continues to be a non-issue. Probably our biggest concern, and it turns out to be nothing.
  • A few things are kind of balky in operation. The rear hatch release sometimes doesn't respond on the first attempt. They supposedly repaired this, but it still crops up, from time to time. As a second driver, the all-important screen user interface is still not exactly intuitive, but they do continue to update with over-the-air improvements. I still have trouble remembering how to operate the windshield wipers (the automatic mode isn't very sensitive), and switching between phones, seat settings, etc. is a lot harder than it should be.
  • We haven't even tested off-road capabilities, towing, or advanced settings, so can't really comment on those.
  • Interestingly, they tell you to default to the normal setting, not "conserve" mode to preserve overall battery life, which I just found out a few months ago. Seems counter-intuitive, but what do I know.
  • We often have 2 small kid car seats in place, and it really impacts usability (can't move front passenger seat back far enough, or recline it at all), and for being as big a vehicle as it is, the interior space doesn't seem as big as my Jeep Grand Cherokee (which is not known for its' spaciousness).
  • Straight-line performance has been very good, as expected. Handling is more than acceptable - seems to handle curves better than most SUVs. Still haven't tested launch mode, though. No mechanical issues at all, and tires seem to be wearing well, 10k miles in or so.
  • Charging infrastructure continues to be puzzling for road trips (an example last week, there was a ChargePoint location in the Houston Galleria, and it turned out to be exclusively for Polestar use, even though the Rivian app told her she could use it). The Tesla adapter we were promised still hasn't arrived (they said it might be a few more months - they're shipping one free to all buyers in order of purchase).


No regrets at all, so far.
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Big boost for EV.

Rivian stock soars as Volkswagen says it will invest up to $5 billion in new joint venture (yahoo.com)
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