Love my 2011 Tacoma, but I want a bigger truck ? Yay or nay on the new Tundra or a 4Runner ?

I hate push to start vehicles

hedge said:

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Love my 2011 Tacoma, but I want a bigger truck ? Yay or nay on the new Tundra or a 4Runner ?

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Sell you mine. It's gonna be on the market in Q1 when the Broncos arrive.

2018 SR5 TSS package. 30,000 miles, just a baby Toyota at this point.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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hedge said:

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Love my 2011 Tacoma, but I want a bigger truck ? Yay or nay on the new Tundra or a 4Runner ?

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Sell you mine. It's gonna be on the market in Q1 when the Broncos arrive.

2018 SR5 TSS package. 30,000 miles, just a baby Toyota at this point.

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All broncos shipping in Q1 (and probably 2, 3, and 4) will all be spoken for.

I'm going to wait for a 22.

Ford

1agswitchin4lanes said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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hedge said:

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Love my 2011 Tacoma, but I want a bigger truck ? Yay or nay on the new Tundra or a 4Runner ?

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Sell you mine. It's gonna be on the market in Q1 when the Broncos arrive.

2018 SR5 TSS package. 30,000 miles, just a baby Toyota at this point.

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All broncos shipping in Q1 (and probably 2, 3, and 4) will all be spoken for.

I'm going to wait for a 22.

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Reserved back in July.

hedge said:

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Ford

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That new Sasquatch Badlands Edition is going to look nice in the garage next to my wife's 2021 TRD Pro 4Runner that shows up in November.

Rule 1

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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1agswitchin4lanes said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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hedge said:

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Love my 2011 Tacoma, but I want a bigger truck ? Yay or nay on the new Tundra or a 4Runner ?

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Sell you mine. It's gonna be on the market in Q1 when the Broncos arrive.

2018 SR5 TSS package. 30,000 miles, just a baby Toyota at this point.

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All broncos shipping in Q1 (and probably 2, 3, and 4) will all be spoken for.

I'm going to wait for a 22.

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Reserved back in July.

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Ford won't be able to build them all in time.

I have one reserved and eyeing a. sport for work.

An updated one is supposedly coming out for the 2022 model year? Will have to see it, to believe it.

The good thing about the Tundra is that it's still the same as my 2007, more or less. You (used to be able to) buy a used Tundra with 20k miles on it, add some aftermarket gear, and be good to go. The only modification I would make to my '07 is change the head unit to something with carplay.

Great trucks, don't have the bells and whistles of some of the other manufacturers. Unless I'm mistaken I believe they have the worst gas mileage of all the half ton trucks. I think combined mileage is like 15 mpg.

When my '04 F150 crapped the bed 2x on me, I looked at a ton of trucks. It depends on what you are buying for. I buy for long term reliability (10+ years) and comfort. I ended up with a 2020 Tundra Crewmax Platinum purchased end of February. I smile every day I get in and fire it up. Plenty of power, super comfortable, and tons of room in the backseat which is good for my tall kids and loading hunting gear.

Older tech yes, but is has everything I want in it, except radar assisted cruise control below 20mph.

Rock solid truck. Toyota sucks at innovation though.

These trucks like the 4runner are incredibly old in terms of design. However I can't see a real reason why this is a deal breaker.

I have a 2019 TRD Pro and have also had several 5th gen 4runners.

The Tundra will feel WAY bigger than the Tacoma.

It runs, drives, parks, like a tank. When using the truck it actually feels like an old school 1990s truck.

I mean...the power windows only have power down...one way.

Edit I mean one touch power down only.

Other old school features

mechanical fan
port fuel injection
hydraulic power steering
My 19 still has an old school key...2020 has push button.

Cool features

rear window rolls down.
4.30 gears.
tow haul mode is a facking hoot.
trd pro exhaust is really nice
3 piece rear bumper
Really good approach angle for a pick up.

Power and torque is decent.

If you want a truck with the latest of every technology bumper to bumper, this is 100% the wrong truck for you.

Important to note: on 2019+ Toyota removed the aux cooler for the transmission. They still have a small water-oil cooler for the atf. You will see higher atf temps. There hasn't been a rash of failures. Really on Tundra forums they haven't noted any on 2019 and 2020. None.

Toyota indicates that they changed shift mapping to chase lock up more to manage heat build up. The 4.30 gears also help. They also generically indicate that the engine cooling system is improved to assist managing thermal load on transmission.

You'll find pan temps 215-225 running around unloaded. When towing and climbing hill you'll see 240-250.

Given this though you can see other OEMs having higher fluid temps either with coolant, atf, or engine oil.

fixer said:

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I mean...the power windows only have power down...one way.

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What does this mean?

drumboy said:

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fixer said:

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I mean...the power windows only have power down...one way.

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What does this mean?

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yeah sorry...i meant one push down.

Bought my son an 08 Crewmax Base for his 16th birthday this year. Love it because it is low tech and no frills which is perfect for a first vehicle. It is still solid as heck.

Solid trucks. The only gripe I have with Tundras is the pathetic payload capacity... if that's not a big deal to you than no worries.

4.30 rear gear means nothing if you don't look at the transmission ratios.

Tundra has a 3.333 1st ratio paired to 4.30, final drive ratio in 1st is 14.33. Chevy w/ 8 speed (4.56 1st) & 3.42 rear gear has a final drive of 15.59 in 1st. The cheby has a greater mechanical advantage.

Final drive ratios are the reason I run a 4.56 gear on a 29" tire and trans w/ 2.48 first gear.

I don't know all those specifics, but that's why a Tundra has to be driven in Tow Haul mode 24/7

silverado_lover said:

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4.30 rear gear means nothing if you don't look at the transmission ratios.

Tundra has a 3.333 1st ratio paired to 4.30, final drive ratio in 1st is 14.33. Chevy w/ 8 speed (4.56 1st) & 3.42 rear gear has a final drive of 15.59 in 1st. The cheby has a greater mechanical advantage.

Final drive ratios are the reason I run a 4.56 gear on a 29" tire and trans w/ 2.48 first gear.

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I don't often pull shuttles and rarely haul over 1200 lbs in the bed but I always smoke Chevys in tow haul mode.

i dont care about technology, as long as it runs and has a radio im good