saltydog13 said:

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I was thinking about that the other day in my truck. Wish they would have kept the sliding rear bench seat

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When did they kill the sliding rear seat? My 2012 has them and I always stash my work laptop behind the seat cause I live in Houston.

I'll be honest I like the seats that lift for storage better. The sliding/reclining seats are great for passengers but what does it do for me? I would rather have the option for more floor storage in the rear.

To the OP, great looking truck. You won't regret it.

Did the sliding seats not lift up at all? I'd rather have storage behind the seat than the 3" of space under the seat that is essentially no storage.

Any mods planned for the truck op?

Rendered Fat said:

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Don't mean to be nosy, but all I've ever had is Fords and Chevys. What does something like that cost? More than a Lariat?

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It was on par with the 18 lariats i was looking at. The 19 lariats would have been 55k-60k out the door. Truck has a lot of cool features like lane departure sensors Cruise control distance radar. Its loaded outside of the leather and vented seats

Look man...the Tundra is the Camry of trucks. The bells and whistles are minimum.

I own a 16 Tundra and a 17 Land Cruiser and both are miles behind other comparable vehicles in the electronics and amenities.

But that Tundra will pull and I feel safe. The land cruiser is a tank and just felt solid. In my opinion if you are going to buy a Toyota you are buying the reliability (knock on wood). You have to be prepare to NOT be blown away by the electronics or doodads other manufacturers throw at you.

My wife summed it up best in my opinion. The tundra was the old mans truck and the others were for bachelors. Unfortunately I was no longer a bachelor

If I go Tundra instead of 3/4 ton Ford or Chevy gas models, which package is best for towing (I figure mpg will be about same)? Is there a max towing option on Tundra so I would not buy without and have low towing? If Tundra has the built in electric brakes in dash, is that sign it has good tow package? It is confusing when it does not spell it out while shopping on internet. Thanks

Are we talking new? For new, if it's got a 5.7 engine it has the tow packager. I'm not sure if that has always been the case. They only have one towing package, if you're looking for a truck that tows heavy stuff a lot, I'm not sure Tundra would make my list

DeWrecking Crew said:

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Are we talking new? For new, if it's got a 5.7 engine it has the tow packager. I'm not sure if that has always been the case. They only have one towing package, if you're looking for a truck that tows heavy stuff a lot, I'm not sure Tundra would make my list

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Probably a 7000 lb number pull travel trailer, mostly flat land towing , maybe up around Hot Springs occasionly- if I go to big mountains, will get a hotel. Guess the more info I get the more confusion- do not like all the bells and whistles- a truck is a truck, just want something I do not have trouble with- my mechanic says my 03 Silverado HD is better than anything out there, but wife wants something newer as we retire and go more places.

Owlagdad said:

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DeWrecking Crew said:

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Are we talking new? For new, if it's got a 5.7 engine it has the tow packager. I'm not sure if that has always been the case. They only have one towing package, if you're looking for a truck that tows heavy stuff a lot, I'm not sure Tundra would make my list

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Probably a 7000 lb number pull travel trailer, mostly flat land towing , maybe up around Hot Springs occasionly- if I go to big mountains, will get a hotel. Guess the more info I get the more confusion- do not like all the bells and whistles- a truck is a truck, just want something I do not have trouble with- my mechanic says my 03 Silverado HD is better than anything out there, but wife wants something newer as we retire and go more places.

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Tundras pull well over 7000 lbs with the big v8

I have the 5.7 crew max.

I pull a 27foot 6000 pound dry weight trailer. My MAIN complaint is the pulling and passing power in the mountains. It also had some sway in the rear end with high winds and slowing around turns. I installed the TRD rear sway bar and that went away.

The supercharger is sitting in my online cart just waiting for me to pull the trigger.

I absolutely love the truck. The salesman tried to convince me when I bought that it was like buying a 3/4 ton because of the engine. I call BS. It's a massive engine but the truck sags when you load the rear end and it has a soft ride when pulling that can be fixed with air bags or a tighter leaf spring set up.

There is no doubt there are better work trucks out there. But I make a couple of these trips a year and I want the power.

I have decided that a 3/4 ton diesel would be overdoing it, and I still want to be able to get the truck in the garage. I have thought a lot about it over the last several weeks and i wouldn't do it any different. Love the tundra.

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Owlagdad said:

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DeWrecking Crew said:

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Are we talking new? For new, if it's got a 5.7 engine it has the tow packager. I'm not sure if that has always been the case. They only have one towing package, if you're looking for a truck that tows heavy stuff a lot, I'm not sure Tundra would make my list

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Probably a 7000 lb number pull travel trailer, mostly flat land towing , maybe up around Hot Springs occasionly- if I go to big mountains, will get a hotel. Guess the more info I get the more confusion- do not like all the bells and whistles- a truck is a truck, just want something I do not have trouble with- my mechanic says my 03 Silverado HD is better than anything out there, but wife wants something newer as we retire and go more places.

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Tundras pull well over 7000 lbs with the big v8

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It has the power to pull it but likely not the payload capacity. Tundras have low max paylods. Check the sticker on the door jam before purchasing. If ur getting a tss type with 4x4 that eats into the payload as well. I have a 2018 tss off road 4x4 crewmax and the max Payload is 1175. Add ur tongue weight and passengers and blow by that fast. Get a 3/4 ton it u towing 7k dry trailer is my advice.

LiveOak said:

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After reading this thread, im trying to figure out why Tundra owners buy Tundras.

Compared to a similarly equipped 3/4 ton gas truck, the Tundra:

1) Gets fewer MPG
2) Tows less
3) Less payload

So why buy a tundra?

It can't be all for dependability. The Chevy 6.0 and the Ford 6.2 (the gas engines in each brands HD 3/4 ton trucks) have a long history of longevity.

Is this just for looks?

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I had a 2015 f150. It was in the shop 8-10 times in the first 35k and none of it had to do with the powertrain. It was a poorly built vehicle and I wasn't about to trade it in for a 250 gasser. I now own a tundra that's been in my driveway every morning when I wake up for a whole year which is wonderful! Toyota has a reputation for building quality products. They don't add every bell and whistle yearly to keep up with the arms race. They build a functional product that works. It's not for everybody but I'm happy with my decision.

The last two trucks I've had have been an f150 and a Silverado 1500 (still have) and they have both been very reliable and had minimal issues. People on this site just love Japanese makes (especially Toyota) and really love to bash GM products because their daddy's '93 Chevy was a POS. Reliability is about the same for all makes these days, get what you like not the brand that you have been told is the best.

Great choice!

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I now own a tundra that's been in my driveway every morning when I wake up for a whole year which is wonderful!

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Ours Tundra has been in the driveway every morning for 15 years!

drumboy said:

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saltydog13 said:

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I was thinking about that the other day in my truck. Wish they would have kept the sliding rear bench seat

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When did they kill the sliding rear seat? My 2012 has them and I always stash my work laptop behind the seat cause I live in Houston.

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2013 was the last year.

Owlagdad said:

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If I go Tundra instead of 3/4 ton Ford or Chevy gas models, which package is best for towing (I figure mpg will be about same)? Is there a max towing option on Tundra so I would not buy without and have low towing? If Tundra has the built in electric brakes in dash, is that sign it has good tow package? It is confusing when it does not spell it out while shopping on internet. Thanks

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call me and I'll explain. # in profile

I would argue that the Impala and Durango is on par with the Camry and Highlander. It may not be as good of a vehicle but reliability of those two is just fine. The compass and 4runner are not in the same class, better example would be a Jeep Wrangler. What makes you think the Impala is such a crappy car?

I had a coworker 10 years ago that swore that the only difference in reliability between domestics & Japanese cars was because the Japanese car owners took their cars to the dealer for expensive regular maintenance.

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I would argue that the Impala and Durango is on par with the Camry and Highlander. It may not be as good of a vehicle but reliability of those two is just fine. The compass and 4runner are not in the same class, better example would be a Jeep Wrangler. What makes you think the Impala is such a crappy car?

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2013 and older were listed #2 by us news as cars to avoid. The Durango was 10ish

drumboy said:

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I had a coworker 10 years ago that swore that the only difference in reliability between domestics & Japanese cars was because the Japanese car owners took their cars to the dealer for expensive regular maintenance.

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I take my tundra to the dealer every 5k Miles for free oil change and tire rotation (for first 25k miles).

I'm not talking about a 2004-2013 model. I also never claimed its a better car all around than a Camry.

I'll stick with my 98 F250 4WD extended cab with the full bed and 137,500 miles on my IH turbo dsl. Interior looks brand new.