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Planned construction - 11th street (Heights) / Bike lanes

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Cecil B. DeMille
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Living near 10th and Ashland I thought dealing with side road traffic on Ashland sucked, doing an overhaul of 11th will be a daily nightmare
''he must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille''
Chewy
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Things I did this morning:

1) Safely rode my bike across 11th on the Nicholson Trail. Stopped and look both ways to avoid getting hit. Novel concept.

2) Got safely down Nicholson to 6th without getting run over. Then went to White Oak Bayou and rode from MKT up to 34th without interacting with any cars at all. Not a single one. Just me, my bike, and other recreational activity people.

3) Coming back I hit 12th from TC Jester to my house because there's no bike lane on 11th and there's lots of cars on 11th going East and West since it's a major thoroughfare in the Heights. It worked wonderfully. The cars got to travel down 11th and I rode my bike on 12th COMPLETELY without incident. Dogs and cats living in harmony.

4) Went to Total Wine and got a whole mess of beer and tequila to survive the next few days. Lesson learned here is don't get the big basket. Went in for a bottle of tequila and a 12 pack but left with over 3 cases of beer and some Fireball in addition to the tequila because I had room in the cart and everything looked so damn tasty.

4) Went to Someburger for lunch and drove all the way down 11th from Studewood to Rutland without hitting a cycler or seeing someone hit a cycler. It was wonderful. 2 lanes each way accommodating all of us motorists that enjoy a major thoroughfare going East and West through the Heights. I bet if I looked real hard I could have seen some cyclists on the side streets traversing East and West safely avoiding us motorists. Dogs and cats in harmony.

What a day. Safely enjoying the Heights on my bike and motor vehicle with the way things already are. The City doesn't need to fix anything. Bunch of morons.

Now to enjoy one of my many beers. Which one shall I choose…
htxag09
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Things I did today: drove to work in under 10 minutes. Guess that means it'll never take me longer than 10 minutes to get to the work as traffic the day before thanksgiving is completely indicative of normal traffic.
Irish 2.0
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Quote:

4) Went to Total Wine and got a whole mess of beer and tequila to survive the next few days. Lesson learned here is don't get the big basket. Went in for a bottle of tequila and a 12 pack but left with over 3 cases of beer and some Fireball in addition to the tequila because I had room in the cart and everything looked so damn tasty.
I feel like this is unnecessary and doesn't belong...
Jugstore Cowboy
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Hey, just because he's too old to carry on a conversation with a 20-something girl doesn't mean he's too old to date them.
AndesAg92
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Chewy said:

Things I did this morning:

1) Safely rode my bike across 11th on the Nicholson Trail. Stopped and look both ways to avoid getting hit. Novel concept.

2) Got safely down Nicholson to 6th without getting run over. Then went to White Oak Bayou and rode from MKT up to 34th without interacting with any cars at all. Not a single one. Just me, my bike, and other recreational activity people.

3) Coming back I hit 12th from TC Jester to my house because there's no bike lane on 11th and there's lots of cars on 11th going East and West since it's a major thoroughfare in the Heights. It worked wonderfully. The cars got to travel down 11th and I rode my bike on 12th COMPLETELY without incident. Dogs and cats living in harmony.

4) Went to Total Wine and got a whole mess of beer and tequila to survive the next few days. Lesson learned here is don't get the big basket. Went in for a bottle of tequila and a 12 pack but left with over 3 cases of beer and some Fireball in addition to the tequila because I had room in the cart and everything looked so damn tasty.

4) Went to Someburger for lunch and drove all the way down 11th from Studewood to Rutland without hitting a cycler or seeing someone hit a cycler. It was wonderful. 2 lanes each way accommodating all of us motorists that enjoy a major thoroughfare going East and West through the Heights. I bet if I looked real hard I could have seen some cyclists on the side streets traversing East and West safely avoiding us motorists. Dogs and cats in harmony.

What a day. Safely enjoying the Heights on my bike and motor vehicle with the way things already are. The City doesn't need to fix anything. Bunch of morons.

Now to enjoy one of my many beers. Which one shall I choose…


Blue star for you.

Not surprised htxag responded in .5 seconds.

Very surprised txags92 and the rest of the cycling squad hasnt cried to staff about your post yet. After all, they deserve preferential treatment to everyone else.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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That old dude still riding around the Heights on a pink bike wearing a sundress?
drumboy
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

That old dude still riding around the Heights on a pink bike wearing a sundress?

Just one? As long as he's not stealing cats then they are all good.
AndesAg92
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wessimo
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11th Street changes are moving forward. I guess we'll find out which side is right about the impacts in a few months.

https://www.theleadernews.com/community/city-moving-forward-with-contentious-traffic-plan-for-11th-street/article_dfdfb412-ec17-11ec-8e18-e7005baa2a03.html
Stat Monitor Repairman
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We got a simple two-step plan goin here:

Step 1, Think of the stupidest possible thing

Step 2, do that thing.
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texagbeliever
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

We got a simple two-step plan goin here:

Step 1, Think of the stupidest possible thing

Step 2, do that thing.


Um its a 3 step plan. Imbetween your step 1 & 2 is: think of the most expensive way to do the stupid thing.
Chewy
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My biggest gripe this whole time is the lack of a turn lane in favor of protected bike lanes between Yale and Shepherd. That makes ZERO sense if this is truly about traffic calming and safety.

We tried to fight City Hall and learned you can't fight City Hall.

In protest Imma ignore the Mayor's orders for Level 1 drought conditions. If he's gonna put bike lanes on 11th for no reason I'm gonna have the greenest lawn and landscaping just off 11th for no reason.
Ferris Wheel Allstar
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Chewy said:

My biggest gripe this whole time is the lack of a turn lane in favor of protected bike lanes between Yale and Shepherd. That makes ZERO sense if this is truly about traffic calming and safety.

We tried to fight City Hall and learned you can't fight City Hall.

In protest Imma ignore the Mayor's orders for Level 1 drought conditions. If he's gonna put bike lanes on 11th for no reason I'm gonna have the greenest lawn and landscaping just off 11th for no reason.
I ignore the bike lane lights in protest downtown.
Chewy
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<solidarity protest fist or whatever sign/signal people show other like minded protestors for fighting the good fight>
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Ciboag96
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Somebody start manufacturing some all-white bikes to plant. Juan Gomez es in a hurry, no savy lanes for bichicletas, and his '89 F350 and trailer cage full of lawn equipment packs a punch!
Ryan the Temp
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This is going to be a ****show of epic proportions.
YellAg2004
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RTT

wessimo
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Ryan the Temp said:

This is going to be a ****show of epic proportions.


We missed you!!!

Also, pretty surprised you are opposed to this.
Ryan the Temp
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Also, pretty surprised you are opposed to this.
Why are you surprised? Did you think I would want someone's pet project to cause massive problems in my neighborhood? The only thing good that could come out of this is I can use the traffic problems as another reason to protest my HCAD appraisal.
wessimo
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I guess I thought of you as someone who would be
a fan of progressive city planning ideas. My bad.
Ryan the Temp
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This isn't progressive city planning; it's someone's pet project that will create a ripple effect of dangerous traffic across all the surrounding streets. Making streets less safe isn't progressive, nor is lying to citizens and trying to keep opponents in the dark about scheduled "public" meetings.

The City should focus its efforts where it will actually improve safety (i.e. reducing the 85th percentile speed on Shepherd and making the crossing at Nicholson safer), but COH doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks, anyway.
chico
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Ryan the Temp said:

This isn't progressive city planning; it's someone's pet project that will create a ripple effect of dangerous traffic across all the surrounding streets. Making streets less safe isn't progressive, nor is lying to citizens and trying to keep opponents in the dark about scheduled "public" meetings.

The City should focus its efforts where it will actually improve safety (i.e. reducing the 85th percentile speed on Shepherd and making the crossing at Nicholson safer), but COH doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks, anyway.


That crossing at Nicholson is and always has been terrible. I ride my bike a lot. I was at one of those public meetings three or four years ago. The person running that meeting knows I ride a lot so called on me to ask the first question. I commented that they need either flashing lights or rumble strips leading to that crossing so as to slow cars down. Preferably both. Still nothing at that intersection and it remains quite dangerous
Ryan the Temp
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True story - There used to be a traffic signal at Lawrence. It was removed in the1980s.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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chico said:

Ryan the Temp said:

This isn't progressive city planning; it's someone's pet project that will create a ripple effect of dangerous traffic across all the surrounding streets. Making streets less safe isn't progressive, nor is lying to citizens and trying to keep opponents in the dark about scheduled "public" meetings.

The City should focus its efforts where it will actually improve safety (i.e. reducing the 85th percentile speed on Shepherd and making the crossing at Nicholson safer), but COH doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks, anyway.


That crossing at Nicholson is and always has been terrible. I ride my bike a lot. I was at one of those public meetings three or four years ago. The person running that meeting knows I ride a lot so called on me to ask the first question. I commented that they need either flashing lights or rumble strips leading to that crossing so as to slow cars down. Preferably both. Still nothing at that intersection and it remains quite dangerous
That intersection is real dangerous to kids and people who have never seen that intersection before or forget where they are at. You riding on a dedicated path on a right of way for at least a mile or so, then bam you at a major intersection.
Ferris Wheel Allstar
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Ryan the Temp said:

This is going to be a ****show of epic proportions.


Downtown is really just now beginning to see the negative impact the bike lanes that were put in during the vid is having on traffic. Taking up 3 lanes of major streets for 2 bike lanes that maybe 10 people use an hour is a great idea!!!
Anastasia Beaverhaven
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Ryan the Temp said:

This isn't progressive city planning; it's someone's pet project that will create a ripple effect of dangerous traffic across all the surrounding streets. Making streets less safe isn't progressive, nor is lying to citizens and trying to keep opponents in the dark about scheduled "public" meetings.

The City should focus its efforts where it will actually improve safety (i.e. reducing the 85th percentile speed on Shepherd and making the crossing at Nicholson safer), but COH doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks, anyway.
Pet projects are a huge part of progressive city planning. You're only complaining because it is directly affecting you.

Until we stop voting for "progressive city planning," we can expect more of these pet project threads in the future,
BMX Bandit
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succinctly, this may be someone's pet project, but is absolutely progressive city planning.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

Ryan the Temp said:

This is going to be a ****show of epic proportions.


Downtown is really just now beginning to see the negative impact the bike lanes that were put in during the vid is having on traffic. Taking up 3 lanes of major streets for 2 bike lanes that maybe 10 people use an hour is a great idea!!!
the downtown bike lanes are an absolute dumpster fire for commuting. And they are almost as disruptive to traffic patterns as the tracks for the mobile apartments with no rent (light rail) that has ridership that might as well be zero.
drumboy
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chico said:

Ryan the Temp said:

This isn't progressive city planning; it's someone's pet project that will create a ripple effect of dangerous traffic across all the surrounding streets. Making streets less safe isn't progressive, nor is lying to citizens and trying to keep opponents in the dark about scheduled "public" meetings.

The City should focus its efforts where it will actually improve safety (i.e. reducing the 85th percentile speed on Shepherd and making the crossing at Nicholson safer), but COH doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks, anyway.


That crossing at Nicholson is and always has been terrible. I ride my bike a lot. I was at one of those public meetings three or four years ago. The person running that meeting knows I ride a lot so called on me to ask the first question. I commented that they need either flashing lights or rumble strips leading to that crossing so as to slow cars down. Preferably both. Still nothing at that intersection and it remains quite dangerous

Crazy that the crosswalk on Shepherd has a stop light but not 11th at Nicholson. I know the guy on a scooter and a lady died but there's much less traffic there.
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Ryan the Temp
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That was the one part of my safety proposal they actually implemented. I give COH some credit for that.
Ferris Wheel Allstar
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

Ryan the Temp said:

This is going to be a ****show of epic proportions.


Downtown is really just now beginning to see the negative impact the bike lanes that were put in during the vid is having on traffic. Taking up 3 lanes of major streets for 2 bike lanes that maybe 10 people use an hour is a great idea!!!
the downtown bike lanes are an absolute dumpster fire for commuting. And they are almost as disruptive to traffic patterns as the tracks for the mobile apartments with no rent (light rail) that has ridership that might as well be zero.


The light rail isn't anywhere near as an issue in my opinion. At least It gets used in the med center, for sporting events and rodeo. The effing electric scooter riders downtown don't even use the bike lanes. They're a 100% waste of space.
 
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