Not to mention, if positive cases aren't being reported until weeks after the patient tests positive, it stands to reason that at least some of those patients have recovered and the "new" daily numbers don't even represent active cases.
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Hospitalization numbers are the only ones that matter to me.
Could care less about positive test numbers. Just means they are mild, asymptomatic, false positive, etc
Could care less about positive test numbers. Just means they are mild, asymptomatic, false positive, etc
Yep...it's the same crap as counting deaths 4+ weeks after they happen.TXTransplant said:
Not to mention, if positive cases aren't being reported until weeks after the patient tests positive, it stands to reason that at least some of those patients have recovered and the "new" daily numbers don't even represent active cases.
Overall, the data gathering/reporting is just so horrible in all this, it's amazing and probably points to some of the terrible decisions that are made
In his begging and pleading yesterday Sly even mentioned people getting retested that tested negative.
Think he's hoping to catch more positives of people who've caught it since their negative test.
But honestly I think it all comes down to money. They were given all this money to test more now they're not and the money is about to get yanked. He can't be having that.
Think he's hoping to catch more positives of people who've caught it since their negative test.
But honestly I think it all comes down to money. They were given all this money to test more now they're not and the money is about to get yanked. He can't be having that.
So the narrative has changed from:
Pretty soon, they'll run out of reasons to keep the economy from us.
Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve.Mask up for Mee Maw.Stop Gathering in Bars, Riots Acceptable.Hospitals are Teetering.Positivity Rates are Too High.- Get Tested, Don't You Want to Know.
Pretty soon, they'll run out of reasons to keep the economy from us.
How much less could you care? A lot, a little?
Sounds like the Judge needs to change the threat level back to orange.
that ho is staying RED forevvvvver!Jack Klompus said:
Sounds like the Judge needs to change the threat level back to orange.
jetch17 said:that ho is staying RED forevvvvver!Jack Klompus said:
Sounds like the Judge needs to change the threat level back to orange.
"Getting tested empowers us to have power over your family"Jebber said:
"Getting tested empowers you to protect your family"
SMH
It should state, please get tested so we can continue to use false data to push our agenda.
I'm pretty sure at this point most of the media are either complicit, or in the case of local media, just idiots and don't due any digging beyond what they are fed from local officials. Have no desire to report anything else because they want to keep up relationships with said local officials.chimpanzee said:When the local news reports "XX new cases reported in greater Houston today", it makes people think things aren't getting better by completely ignoring when the case was discovered and the relative volume of testing. They do the same thing with deaths, holding some back to keep people scared when support for their mandates starts flagging.Willy Wonka said:Keegan99 said:
It's positive test results by date of the specimen collection. This is a more accurate representation of the state of affairs since test results can take some time to process.
And this graph shows that it can take a LOT of time.
The orange lines are the daily tallies as of today. The blue lines are the daily tallies as of yesterday. As you can see, positive test results were added throughout July, including a big chunk from July 1st.
All of these will be reported today as "new cases", though very, very few were from tests performed in August.
Im sorry but I still don't understand the chart. Aside from 2 days (7/31, 8/4) the days look pretty consistent.
Keegan99 said:
It's a safe assumption from the TMC trendline, which is downward, and in agreement with the properly dated Harris epi curve. Their in-house tests are 2-48 hour turnaround.
or is there a different TMC specific test chart?
terradactylexpress said:
or is there a different TMC specific test chart?
Ask the Marlins.
I'm just trying to understand what Keegan is referencing
Yes, from the TMC dashboard.
The chart you posted is just repackaged government data, which includes the tests from the last month that are forward-dated to today.
The in-house TMC tests are 2-48 hour turnaround and therefore offer a much better view of the present situation.
Both number of tests performed and test positivity are falling. Which means positive results are really plummeting.
The chart you posted is just repackaged government data, which includes the tests from the last month that are forward-dated to today.
The in-house TMC tests are 2-48 hour turnaround and therefore offer a much better view of the present situation.
Both number of tests performed and test positivity are falling. Which means positive results are really plummeting.
Always follow the money. Cuomo/Deblasio are in for one hell of a shock when they figure out that their precious 1% that pays all of their income tax was out of the state for 185 days this year and a good chunk of them are staying in Boca for good.chjoak said:
If you can't walk out of your door and be at a nice restaurant, a fun bar or grab a cup of coffee in a 10 minute walk, or even be close to an office, there is zero reason to live in a city at any price, much less NYC's prices.
There are more than 122,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Greater Houston area and the numbers continue to climb.
What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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Ciboag96 said:
There are more than 122,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Greater Houston area and the numbers continue to climb.
What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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Sly gonna Sly.Ciboag96 said:
There are more than 122,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Greater Houston area and the numbers continue to climb.
What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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This is equally as important a slide.
While they are back in "Level 2", notice that once again, the percentage of COVID patients in the ICU declined to 41%. Believe it peaked somewhere around 50% a couple weeks ago.
So what we are seeing is the hospitals are not overrun and are in fact keeping it full with non-covid patients. Which is exactly what they said they would do months ago...Lets face it, our "leaders" are frauds...
While they are back in "Level 2", notice that once again, the percentage of COVID patients in the ICU declined to 41%. Believe it peaked somewhere around 50% a couple weeks ago.
So what we are seeing is the hospitals are not overrun and are in fact keeping it full with non-covid patients. Which is exactly what they said they would do months ago...Lets face it, our "leaders" are frauds...
This "go get tested" campaign is dumb and clearly being pushed by people who have no idea what it's like to work in the "real world".
If I get tested - even with no symptoms and/or as part of a "routine screening" - I'm supposed to report it to my HR. When the results come back, I have to report that, too. All for "tracking purposes".
No, thank you.
If I get tested - even with no symptoms and/or as part of a "routine screening" - I'm supposed to report it to my HR. When the results come back, I have to report that, too. All for "tracking purposes".
No, thank you.
This reads a lot like late May. Rinse, wash, repeat.
Yeah, I gotta wonder how many people are going to put up with that sh-t for long....there was a good article from a guy in DC not too long ago basically about how he was a city guy and loved living in the city, but how he moved out because he wasn't going to put up any longer with all of the bullsh-t that the DC Mayor was letting go on.....from the lockdowns to the looting. They are going to turn these major cities into Detroit before long.chimpanzee said:Always follow the money. Cuomo/Deblasio are in for one hell of a shock when they figure out that their precious 1% that pays all of their income tax was out of the state for 185 days this year and a good chunk of them are staying in Boca for good.chjoak said:
If you can't walk out of your door and be at a nice restaurant, a fun bar or grab a cup of coffee in a 10 minute walk, or even be close to an office, there is zero reason to live in a city at any price, much less NYC's prices.
Ah here it is....
https://humanevents.com/2020/07/23/goodbye-washington-dc/
Go get test. We promise we haven't rigged it so we get a lot more fake positives. Honest. Soros testing lab is 100% reliable.
BohunkAg said:Yeah, I gotta wonder how many people are going to put up with that sh-t for long....there was a good article from a guy in DC not too long ago basically about how he was a city guy and loved living in the city, but how he moved out because he wasn't going to put up any longer with all of the bullsh-t that the DC Mayor was letting go on.....from the lockdowns to the looting. They are going to turn these major cities into Detroit before long.chimpanzee said:Always follow the money. Cuomo/Deblasio are in for one hell of a shock when they figure out that their precious 1% that pays all of their income tax was out of the state for 185 days this year and a good chunk of them are staying in Boca for good.chjoak said:
If you can't walk out of your door and be at a nice restaurant, a fun bar or grab a cup of coffee in a 10 minute walk, or even be close to an office, there is zero reason to live in a city at any price, much less NYC's prices.
Ah here it is....
https://humanevents.com/2020/07/23/goodbye-washington-dc/
One can only ignore piles of human feces on the sidewalks outside of your $4k a month apartment for so long.
Ciboag96 said:
There are more than 122,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Greater Houston area and the numbers continue to climb.
What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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I've heard of some people that have had it and were told that they had to get tested until they were negative to go back to work, which is nuts on a number of levels.TXTransplant said:
This "go get tested" campaign is dumb and clearly being pushed by people who have no idea what it's like to work in the "real world".
If I get tested - even with no symptoms and/or as part of a "routine screening" - I'm supposed to report it to my HR. When the results come back, I have to report that, too. All for "tracking purposes".
No, thank you.
1) the guidance is 10 days from first symptoms and 72 hours free of symptoms
2) the virus can be present in your body and you can test positive after being clear and not being able to spread it.
3) people are then putting multiple positive tests in the system, which further pollutes the data pool.
It's nuts.
BohunkAg said:I've heard of some people that have had it and were told that they had to get tested until they were negative to go back to work, which is nuts on a number of levels.TXTransplant said:
This "go get tested" campaign is dumb and clearly being pushed by people who have no idea what it's like to work in the "real world".
If I get tested - even with no symptoms and/or as part of a "routine screening" - I'm supposed to report it to my HR. When the results come back, I have to report that, too. All for "tracking purposes".
No, thank you.
1) the guidance is 10 days from first symptoms and 72 hours free of symptoms
2) the virus can be present in your body and you can test positive after being clear and not being able to spread it.
3) people are then putting multiple positive tests in the system, which further pollutes the data pool.
It's nuts.
I agree. Our policy (and this has been in place since before this virus hit), is if you request 3 or more consecutive days of sick leave, you have to have a doctor's note (submitted to a third party management system that still has to "approve" it) to come back to work.
I suspect getting a doctor's note would require one or more negative tests.
So, testing is not required, but that's what's going to happen to adhere to policy.
At this point, I'm not sure why anyone, even WITH symptoms, would get tested unless they require medical attention. If you're sick, just stay home and keep whatever germs you have to yourself!
We cannot open back up until the confirmed cases is under 100,000Ciboag96 said:
There are more than 122,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Greater Houston area and the numbers continue to climb.
What does that headline mean to you? To the hundred of thousands of HISD educated or partially-educated unwashed masses this means there ARE 122,000 confirmed cases active IN Houston.
This is an aggregate. Continue to climb, yeah ****ing duh.
Again, it has shown >50,000 active cases for 2 straight weeks, even though case load is only 1,000-1,500 per day. With a 10 recovery time, how can they keep showing 50,000 active cases?
Base on daily case load and multiple positives per human, I doubt there are 10,000 active cases in Houston.
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Fitch said:
This reads a lot like late May. Rinse, wash, repeat.
lolwut
so another wave in September?
We were watching the news last night and they were talking about the new testing sites and how the number of people getting tested is down, and she pretty much said the bolded.TXTransplant said:BohunkAg said:I've heard of some people that have had it and were told that they had to get tested until they were negative to go back to work, which is nuts on a number of levels.TXTransplant said:
This "go get tested" campaign is dumb and clearly being pushed by people who have no idea what it's like to work in the "real world".
If I get tested - even with no symptoms and/or as part of a "routine screening" - I'm supposed to report it to my HR. When the results come back, I have to report that, too. All for "tracking purposes".
No, thank you.
1) the guidance is 10 days from first symptoms and 72 hours free of symptoms
2) the virus can be present in your body and you can test positive after being clear and not being able to spread it.
3) people are then putting multiple positive tests in the system, which further pollutes the data pool.
It's nuts.
I agree. Our policy (and this has been in place since before this virus hit), is if you request 3 or more consecutive days of sick leave, you have to have a doctor's note (submitted to a third party management system that still has to "approve" it) to come back to work.
I suspect getting a doctor's note would require one or more negative tests.
So, testing is not required, but that's what's going to happen to adhere to policy.
At this point, I'm not sure why anyone, even WITH symptoms, would get tested unless they require medical attention. If you're sick, just stay home and keep whatever germs you have to yourself!
One thing that has come from all of this shutdown and COVID fear porn is my wife has become a lot more political. All of this, as well as the "we're all gonna die" from her college friends on FB (she went to a small LA college), have really changed her. She's been pretty apolitical and "meh" on things in the past, but now, she's a different person. She's reading a lot more as well as looking at the data itself and is seeing the manipulation being done by the media and local government. Her sister is still scared to go out and I overheard my wife tell her to read the data and turn the news off.
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