Jakelew04

I thought I would jump in this Griddy thread. I work for Energy Ogre.

At Energy Ogre we are more than just a plan picking service for the consumers. We are impacting the the entire value chain of this industry.

There are two main components of the retail electric provider's P&L. They hedge power and they have Sales and Marketing. Unfortunately they don't do either very well and those costs filter down to the consumer in higher prices. Since we are managing the home for the consumer we can go to these providers and provide them vetted customers with actual predictable data profiles. This allows them to hedge tighter which removes fluff in their pricing which traditionally has been passed on to the consumer. Also they can eliminate sales and marketing costs because we are sending them customers for no acquisition cost. Sales and Marketing can be 15-20% of their total P&L.

So essentially we can send them customers every month with predictable demand curves and they eliminate Sales and Marketing cost. This business reorganization allows them to actually make more money and pass savings on to the consumer in custom rates below the market through Energy Ogre. As we grow our value to the consumer increases and the more we can impact overall market cost.

Through 2018 we have impacted the market in Texas over $100 million. We were just named Inc. 5000 one of the fastest growing companies in the US.

If you have any questions or need help just inbox me and and I will help.

Really interesting thread --- I'm thinking about taking the plunge in September when my contract runs out, but I'm also considering just doing power to choose again.

But, we live in a small but poorly insulated house with a 25yo AC unit. The wife is pregnant and home with a 1yo all day. She likes it to be nice and cool, so the AC literally runs 20-22hrs per day. Basically, the AC can't keep up in the summer. I leave at 7am and the house is down to 70. When I get home it's risen to 80 even though it ran all day and it takes all night to cool off. (Ecobee constantly emails me: "you may have a cooling problem" LOL)

Currently not planning to replace the AC since: 1) a trusted old AC guy told me the unit is solid, 2) we are about to move, and 3) my bill doesn't seem too bad.

I have paid on average $0.106/kwh for the last 12 months. July'18-July'19. Avg bill = $150/month.

Does anyone know how to find the average spot price of power for an entire month including major swings? Basically want to figure out if I run my AC 24/7 how much I would expect to pay with Griddy.

If I were you, I wouldn't do Griddy. There's a good chance the bad summer days will outweigh the rest of the year if you aren't able to throttle usage at all and avoid those peak times of several dollars per kWh. This comes from a current Griddy customer that joined a few months ago and plans to stay with them. Wife and I both work so neither of us are at home during the day/no AC running between 1-5pm.

several of us have posted the kwh cost per month.

you would have saved maybe 0.01 - 0.02 per kwh. So $10 - $40 /month.

and all of that savings was wiped out for me in 3 days.

K_P said:

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Really interesting thread --- I'm thinking about taking the plunge in September when my contract runs out, but I'm also considering just doing power to choose again.

But, we live in a small but poorly insulated house with a 25yo AC unit. The wife is pregnant and home with a 1yo all day. She likes it to be nice and cool, so the AC literally runs 20-22hrs per day. Basically, the AC can't keep up in the summer. I leave at 7am and the house is down to 70. When I get home it's risen to 80 even though it ran all day and it takes all night to cool off. (Ecobee constantly emails me: "you may have a cooling problem" LOL)

Currently not planning to replace the AC since: 1) a trusted old AC guy told me the unit is solid, 2) we are about to move, and 3) my bill doesn't seem too bad.

I have paid on average $0.106/kwh for the last 12 months. July'18-July'19. Avg bill = $150/month.

Does anyone know how to find the average spot price of power for an entire month including major swings? Basically want to figure out if I run my AC 24/7 how much I would expect to pay with Griddy.

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First thing, I would up the insulation on that home. If you are really using that much electricity it should pay for itself in 3 years easily.

Secondly, I would not recommend Griddy if you can't schedule shift and your home has poor insulation. Powertochoose.org sucks. I would recommend using texaspowerguide.com for finding the best plan based upon your usage (needs your previous 12 months of electricity usage).

Part morbid curiosity and part train wreck theory.

For those curious what Griddy was like yesterday, I shifted some, but not all my usage out of the peak times. Came in at $.23/kWh.

This is 10x what I paid Sunday. Having joined Griddy in the middle of this heat wave, my all-in average since August 5th is $.15/kWh.

That's only energy cost, so TDU is in addition to that?

The all-in cost to date of $.15 includes TDU/taxes/fees.

Yes. However, gritty has a page where you can look at your statement that shows you the all-in cost per kilowatt-hour.

combat wombat said:

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Yes. However, gritty has a page where you can look at your statement that shows you the all-in cost per kilowatt-hour.

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How does it know how to allocate your $10/month fee without knowing what your total kWh for the month is?

Its a running average. The more electricity consumed, the more hours to spread the fee across.

The $10 monthly fee isn't added all at once. It's added about 30 cents a day. My membership fee as of today is only $4.16.

Do they factor the credit card processing fee into the all-in rate that they show too?

Yes they do. The credit card fees hit your bill as your account is replenished. If you replenish with $50 at a time you will be hit with smaller charges more often. If you replenish with a larger amount such as $500, you will be high with a larger fee one month, but might not have any credit card fees for a month or 2

All. In.

How was today? Did you dummies have to call your wives to turn the ac off at 4pm?

So question for you griddy folks...

Turning you A/C off in the afternoons when it's hot as shlt and back on really saves you that much?

And it's not miserable when you get home when your A/C had been off? I can't imagine coming home to an house that's 80+

No Pressure said:

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How was today? Did you dummies have to call your wives to turn the ac off at 4pm?

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Ecobee + IFTTT = I don't have to do a thing.

The price per kwh was literally 100x the typical price during those hours. What do you think?

Got an email from them that they are waiving August's membership fee.

schmendeler said:

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What do you think?

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Don't know. That's why I asked

Haven't had power for over an hour. Free is a lot cheaper than whatever y'all paying

Ag_07 said:

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So question for you griddy folks...

Turning you A/C off in the afternoons when it's hot as shlt and back on really saves you that much?

And it's not miserable when you get home when your A/C had been off? I can't imagine coming home to an house that's 80+

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You obviously didn't grow up in my house. I remember when my dad would finally cave in August and turn on the AC, usually at about 82.

JB!98 said:

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The enviro crowd doesn't want us to build natural gas generation either.

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In Texas? I can't imagine they have that much swing.

If no one is building it, it's probably not needed. Texas has some very cheap power already.

I'm no expert on our current baseload plus surge capability though.

As I sit outside without power due to the storm I can hear the home generators humming.

Does anyone have an idea how much it costs to run a home generator per hour or for a day?

https://assurancepower.com/aps-blog/entry/how-much-does-it-cost-to-run-a-generator

Waltonloads08 said:

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JB!98 said:

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The enviro crowd doesn't want us to build natural gas generation either.

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In Texas? I can't imagine they have that much swing.

If no one is building it, it's probably not needed. Texas has some very cheap power already.

I'm no expert on our current baseload plus surge capability though.

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Yep right here in SA. They are not fans of anything that is not solar or wind. We have public forums and hear from them all the time.

We base load with nuclear and coal. Peak with gas and whatever wind and solar we can muster.

K_P said:

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Really interesting thread --- I'm thinking about taking the plunge in September when my contract runs out, but I'm also considering just doing power to choose again.

But, we live in a small but poorly insulated house with a 25yo AC unit. The wife is pregnant and home with a 1yo all day. She likes it to be nice and cool, so the AC literally runs 20-22hrs per day. Basically, the AC can't keep up in the summer. I leave at 7am and the house is down to 70. When I get home it's risen to 80 even though it ran all day and it takes all night to cool off. (Ecobee constantly emails me: "you may have a cooling problem" LOL)

Currently not planning to replace the AC since: 1) a trusted old AC guy told me the unit is solid, 2) we are about to move, and 3) my bill doesn't seem too bad.

I have paid on average $0.106/kwh for the last 12 months. July'18-July'19. Avg bill = $150/month.

Does anyone know how to find the average spot price of power for an entire month including major swings? Basically want to figure out if I run my AC 24/7 how much I would expect to pay with Griddy.

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Sounds like you have an evap coil issue with your ac unit

What makes you say that? Can I check it? I always thought the outdoor component of compressors had a big capacitor? Don't wanna get zapped.

Think I should call the guy back? I have the guy do a tune up every couple years and he always says "it's old but it's running great". I think it's small for my house?

Your AC unit MAY be due for a replacement. You might also want to consider upgrading your insulation. However, some old homes are basically colanders with doors and windows.

If you think an upgraded AC might help with energy efficiency, I'm going to recommend you contact Beede AC & Heat. Galen, the owner, was recommended to me by a friend with whom he goes to church. They replaced our AC. I thought he was very honest, did good work, and he was also the cheapest bid. He will fix anything, but he installed a Goodman unit in our home. It's a local manufacturer and they have a good warranty, I thought. Research the brand.

He is neither family nor friend - I just think he does good work.

https://www.beedeacandheat.com/

Thanks! How much did the new AC cost? Our house is 1900sf, so not tiny but not huge.

Our house is a lot bigger. We only replaced the inside unit and I believe it was about $2,500. Most other AC companies were trying to sell us a WHOLE new AC unit (inside and out) and were almost double the cost for just the inside unit.

For some reason I was thinking >10k, so I guess that isn't so bad.