These cretins all need to go.

Damn! That was a pretty brutal executive summary. I like it.

No one could be bothered to even post the summary.

Didn't they spend a bunch of ad money at the Astros game saying keep HISD leadership local or some crap?

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No one could be bothered to even post the summary.

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The report says HISD board members broke open meetings laws and overstepped their authority when they attempted to oust the interim superintendent and bring back Saavedra. They also overstepped by involving themselves in contracts, personnel and construction decisions they should not have been involved with, and they interfered with district operations by having employees of the district do work for them. Because of all this, the investigators recommend the board be replaced by TEA appointed trustees.

Thank you. I couldn't get the page/file to load properly.

Sounds like a bunch of people are gonna be replaced. HISD definitely needs new people who don't waste resources

I have a friend on the school board. I think need to give'em a call.

The only thing that can fix this gross miss management of resources is more money...

So does anyone have a link you don't have to log on to facebook to view? Stupid

Try this:

https://www.scribd.com/document/421252293/Texas-Education-Agency-Investigation-Report-Houston-ISD

Thanks!

Yikes! I only read the executive summary, but at the end there is a nice paragraph on how this only relates the findings to the few things within the scope of that investigation. I read that to mean there are definitely more investigations and more coming.

I don't know how much worse you could go with lowering their accreditation and replacing the board with a new management team.

I hope they can clean house and get new blood that isn't trying to make a buck off the district and wants to educate children.

I'm pretty sure the last bullet the TEA has after replacing the board is to just dissolve the district and fold it in to a neighboring one. There's no way that will happen with hisd. Usually it's a smaller one that gets folded into a larger one. Happened recently to la marque (Texas City ISD) , North Forest, (HISD) and wilmer Hutchins (DISD)

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I'm pretty sure the last bullet the TEA has after replacing the board is to just dissolve the district and fold it in to a neighboring one. There's no way that will happen with hisd. Usually it's a smaller one that gets folded into a larger one. Happened recently to la marque (Texas City ISD) , North Forest, (HISD) and wilmer Hutchins (DISD)

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There could potentially be the option of splitting it up into 2 or 3 districts with 70K-100K students each.

The problem that will come is any split will be deemed as racist.

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The problem that will come is any split will be deemed as racist.

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That argument is why the HISD and the board have the issues they currently do.

Doesn't San Antonio have like, 11 school districts?

The obvious divisions on N, S, E, and W would certainly have disparate socioeconomic populations. However, with Texas' Robin Hood method of funding districts, wouldn't that lessen a bit of the blow?

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Doesn't San Antonio have like, 11 school districts?

The obvious divisions on N, S, E, and W would certainly have disparate socioeconomic populations. However, with Texas' Robin Hood method of funding districts, wouldn't that lessen a bit of the blow?

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That would involve logic and reasoning to split the district. Has HISD or the cronies running the district ever done anything logical or reasonable?

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I'm pretty sure the last bullet the TEA has after replacing the board is to just dissolve the district and fold it in to a neighboring one. There's no way that will happen with hisd. Usually it's a smaller one that gets folded into a larger one. Happened recently to la marque (Texas City ISD) , North Forest, (HISD) and wilmer Hutchins (DISD)

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There could potentially be the option of splitting it up into 2 or 3 districts with 70K-100K students each.

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since when has any Democrat run govt body given up power? Too much money and payoffs at stake.

Cross posted the TEA findings re HISD to politics board just to see what will happen and for grins. Wade into that cesspool at your own peril.

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Cross posted the TEA findings re HISD to politics board just to see what will happen and for grins. Wade into that cesspool at your own peril.

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Not everything there is a cesspool!

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I'm pretty sure the last bullet the TEA has after replacing the board is to just dissolve the district and fold it in to a neighboring one. There's no way that will happen with hisd. Usually it's a smaller one that gets folded into a larger one. Happened recently to la marque (Texas City ISD) , North Forest, (HISD) and wilmer Hutchins (DISD)

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There could potentially be the option of splitting it up into 2 or 3 districts with 70K-100K students each.

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since when has any Democrat run govt body given up power? Too much money and payoffs at stake.

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The people doing the splitting would be the TEA/Governor which are (today, at least) slightly Republican. It sure wouldn't be the decision of the Mayor or current board.

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Cross posted the TEA findings re HISD to politics board just to see what will happen and for grins. Wade into that cesspool at your own peril.

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Hey now. Easy on 16

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Cross posted the TEA findings re HISD to politics board just to see what will happen and for grins. Wade into that cesspool at your own peril.

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Hey now. Easy on 16

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I'm an active participant over there and contribute to the level of cess in that pool.

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blindey said:

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Cross posted the TEA findings re HISD to politics board just to see what will happen and for grins. Wade into that cesspool at your own peril.

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Hey now. Easy on 16

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I'm an active participant over there and contribute to the level of cess in that pool.

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Oh I know! You're pinned to the top!

Just sayin.

An honest opinion of the recommendations from TEA. And I usually don't read the drivel that is normally in the Houston Press, but this is on point.

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/tea-appears-ready-to-oust-the-hisd-school-board-11335718

Thanks for posting. According to that post, they have until 8/15 to file a response. Dis Gon Get GOOOOOOD.

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An honest opinion of the recommendations from TEA. And I usually don't read the drivel that is normally in the Houston Press, but this is on point.

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/tea-appears-ready-to-oust-the-hisd-school-board-11335718

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People spend 90% of the time bemoaning corruption at the federal level, but if those folks played like the local folks, we'd already be Venezuela by now. I'm not saying the big boys are more ethical than the local folks, but at least they play under brighter lights.

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An honest opinion of the recommendations from TEA. And I usually don't read the drivel that is normally in the Houston Press, but this is on point.

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/tea-appears-ready-to-oust-the-hisd-school-board-11335718

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People spend 90% of the time bemoaning corruption at the federal level, but if those folks played like the local folks, we'd already be Venezuela by now. I'm not saying the big boys are more ethical than the local folks, but at least they play under brighter lights.

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So true. Local politics generally have a larger impact to your day in and day out lives. Don't get me wrong, when there is massive federal legislation like the ACA and tax increases/decreases, those have a direct daily impact, but local legislation truly affects more directly, more often.

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People spend 90% of the time bemoaning corruption at the federal level, but if those folks played like the local folks, we'd already be Venezuela by now. I'm not saying the big boys are more ethical than the local folks, but at least they play under brighter lights.

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If you surveyed a random 10 local voters, I wonder how many would even know who is responsible for hiring the HISD superintendent? Or could name their own school board rep? (I probably couldn't without looking it up).

Local politics requires more research than just firing up the TV or Twitter to find out who you're supposed to be mad at today.

Can't generate mass clicks talking about the local school board. Even in the age of Twitter where everyone is a "journalist" the mass draw makes the money.

Can some of these yayhoos actually get jail time? What would the charge be? Bribery? Fraud?

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I'm pretty sure the last bullet the TEA has after replacing the board is to just dissolve the district and fold it in to a neighboring one. There's no way that will happen with hisd. Usually it's a smaller one that gets folded into a larger one. Happened recently to la marque (Texas City ISD) , North Forest, (HISD) and wilmer Hutchins (DISD)

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There could potentially be the option of splitting it up into 2 or 3 districts with 70K-100K students each.

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since when has any Democrat run govt body given up power? Too much money and payoffs at stake.

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The people doing the splitting would be the TEA/Governor which are (today, at least) slightly Republican. It sure wouldn't be the decision of the Mayor or current board.

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and it'll end up in court. The rats aren't leaving the ship. every race card in the deck will be played.

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The obvious divisions on N, S, E, and W would certainly have disparate socioeconomic populations. However, with Texas' Robin Hood method of funding districts, wouldn't that lessen a bit of the blow?

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The money differential required to get a poor student achievement up to a rich student is astounding. You have to cut rich school budget to the point they can no longer afford textbooks and can only afford first-year teachers. You'd also have to prevent the community from stepping up with donations.

For the poor schools, you'd have to keep kids at school until 9pm and virtually eliminate time to do anything except sleep. Homework would be done at school since that's the only way to ensure it gets done. You'd need two shifts of teachers.

Yet there are still quite a few people that want EQUITY no matter the costs. We're pretty close to equality across the state, but nowhere close to equity.

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The obvious divisions on N, S, E, and W would certainly have disparate socioeconomic populations. However, with Texas' Robin Hood method of funding districts, wouldn't that lessen a bit of the blow?

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The money differential required to get a poor student achievement up to a rich student is astounding. You have to cut rich school budget to the point they can no longer afford textbooks and can only afford first-year teachers. You'd also have to prevent the community from stepping up with donations.

For the poor schools, you'd have to keep kids at school until 9pm and virtually eliminate time to do anything except sleep. Homework would be done at school since that's the only way to ensure it gets done. You'd need two shifts of teachers.

Yet there are still quite a few people that want EQUITY no matter the costs. We're pretty close to equality across the state, but nowhere close to equity.

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People that value education, upward mobility, safety, etc., GTFO of those neighborhoods barring strings of generational bad decision making. If you forcibly disperse people with those kinds of values to other schools, you're not going to make their lives better, but you'll sure make everyone else's worse.

Some government employee isn't going to instill values six hours a day, five days a week, eight months per year.

Still don't understand how anyone can be against school choice with this dynamic staring everyone in the face. Give the ones that care about learning anything at all a freaking chance to learn some skills and put the ones that don't into whatever the juvenile equivalent of a drunk tank is for the requisite TEA approved number of hours where someone can pretend to teach them literature and science to enrich their whole humanhood or whatever.