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My uncle and his family live in Zurich. Would it even be worth it to have him snag a Daytona for me, or try to? Does anyone know if it's cheaper there? I've never looked into it so I have no clue.

He's an airline pilot so I don't worry about him having to ship it and the tax implications.

TIA

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I have a good friend in Zurich who is about to get his Swiss citizenship after being married to a local, living there for 15 years, learning Swiss German, etc.

I asked him a couple of years ago about this and he thought it would actually be harder to get from an AD there than in the U.S.

Switzerland is filled with wealthy and sophisticated consumers of luxury goods, especially when it comes to watches (the national pastime).

So client status will drive everything over there, just as it does here. The store is basically giving away $20,000 when they sell a Daytona at MSRP, so they going to give it to a rando off the street or one of the dozens of guys who spend 6 or 7 figures at the store every year?

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Is the bezel off on purpose?

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No, Im just lazy

I have a client who called me as he was getting a private tour of the Moser factory today to pick up this absolute grail of a watch:



https://h-moser.com/en/streamliner/streamliner-tourbillon-skeleton-ceramic-alpine-6814-2100

color me jealous af

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I have a client who called me as he was getting a private tour of the Moser factory today to pick up this absolute grail of a watch:



https://h-moser.com/en/streamliner/streamliner-tourbillon-skeleton-ceramic-alpine-6814-2100

color me jealous af

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That is beautiful. Wish I had $95k to spend on it.

Their blue enamel is one of my favorite watches out there:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/intro-moser-streamliner-small-seconds-blue-enamel

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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"Yes sir we are a seiko dealer. And yes they cost a grand. So we are a grand seiko dealer. Yes sir."

Mathguy64 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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"Yes sir we are a seiko dealer. And yes they cost a grand. So we are a grand seiko dealer. Yes sir."

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lol. Probably.

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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Just wear your bullet proof vest when you go. ABQ is a super safe town as you know

Someone help with a value here... Submariner Ref. 16610... 40mm '88-2010 model. Brand new, never worn, tags, etc etc etc.

I like the meteorite moonphase model as well (stock photo)

YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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Maybe the drug dealers really like Grand Seikos

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Someone help with a value here... Submariner Ref. 16610... 40mm '88-2010 model. Brand new, never worn, tags, etc etc etc.

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So deadstock (new old stock)?

Going to depend on year cuz they went to ceramic bezel in 2008 I believe. That's a mighty wide date range.

I'd say 12-18k. If truly full set and mint, I'd say more like 16-18k

Also, I'll give you 8k

I love the aventurine dial Mosers.

zgolfz85 said:

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Ducks4brkfast said:

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Someone help with a value here... Submariner Ref. 16610... 40mm '88-2010 model. Brand new, never worn, tags, etc etc etc.

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So deadstock (new old stock)?

Going to depend on year cuz they went to ceramic bezel in 2008 I believe. That's a mighty wide date range.

I'd say 12-18k. If truly full set and mint, I'd say more like 16-18k

Also, I'll give you 8k

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Rolex went to ceramic bezels with the 6-digit reference, not the 5-digit.

I'd think $10-12k is probably fair if it's truly brand new and unworn.

Truly NOS? I'd say 15-16k. FTAC is probably better suited to answer

Yeah, the 16610 is definitely aluminum bezel insert. I've owned 2 of them in the past

YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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Let me save you the trouble. They don't have whatever gs you're looking for, last time I went in they didn't have a single gs in the store, or cartier or iwc, and only a handful of tudors. Patek? Ha! They can get it for you from one of their Texas or Louisiana stores but it'll take a while. Great selection of tissots though

I just saw a like new pre owned snowflake on the shelf somewhere else in town that you should probably look at, if that's the watch you're interested in. It is in kind of a stabby part of town though

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zgolfz85 said:

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Ducks4brkfast said:

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Someone help with a value here... Submariner Ref. 16610... 40mm '88-2010 model. Brand new, never worn, tags, etc etc etc.

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So deadstock (new old stock)?

Going to depend on year cuz they went to ceramic bezel in 2008 I believe. That's a mighty wide date range.

I'd say 12-18k. If truly full set and mint, I'd say more like 16-18k

Also, I'll give you 8k

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Rolex went to ceramic bezels with the 6-digit reference, not the 5-digit.

I'd think $10-12k is probably fair if it's truly brand new and unworn.

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ah, didn't even notice that. good catch.

I think we can pin down the year further here...didn't the 5 digit reference stop doing case holes in the early 2000s?

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Truly NOS? I'd say 15-16k. FTAC is probably better suited to answer

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15-16k sounds high. But to give more accurate number I'd need to know year and what's included. I know it says tags etc but are the warranty papers included and if it's truly dead stock with the original factory stickers or have stickers been removed? Sounds silly but all this makes a difference.

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nealan said:

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Truly NOS? I'd say 15-16k. FTAC is probably better suited to answer

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15-16k sounds high. But to give more accurate number I'd need to know year and what's included. I know it says tags etc but are the warranty papers included and if it's truly dead stock with the original factory stickers or have stickers been removed? Sounds silly but all this makes a difference.

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I'm shocked you don't have a clearer answer for a 22 year date range

I was real keen on getting a NOS one about a year ago and that's about how much they were on Chrono24. Of course asking price isn't selling price !

Side note , every Rolex I've ever bought I've gotten from you so you would know LoL

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I was real keen on getting a NOS one about a year ago and that's about how much they were on Chrono24. Of course asking price isn't selling price !

Side note , every Rolex I've ever bought I've gotten from you so you would know LoL

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It's honestly so hard with NOS pieces. They definitely get premiums but there are so few buyers willing to pay the premium to get a NOS pieces unless true collectors just wanting to stash it in the safe. Really hard to pay that premium then actually wear it haha.

That's why the price range varies so much. Can you get 16k for it? Maybe to the right person.

Well, there you go.

zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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Just wear your bullet proof vest when you go. ABQ is a super safe town as you know

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My hate for Albuquerque has waned from when we visited during my high school years. It's come a long way sincw then. Still plenty of parts of town to avoid, but that's any city. It's just the number of homeless that bother me when we visit. Otherwise I actually enjoy visiting these days as a good friend moved there a couple years back. Great jumping off point for the southwest.

Santa Fe would make more sense for a GS distributor, Albuquerque doesn't surprise me.

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zgolfz85 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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YouBet said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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GS is definitely my next big spend watch...just not new. The secondary market is your friend there.

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GS is also my next watch (hopefully) and shockingly there is an AD about an hour from me. So, now I have a reason to go to ABQ aside from flying.

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That is wild that they have an AD in ABQ

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Yeah, I frankly don't get it. I'm going to call them before I go and make sure they aren't lying about it.

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Just wear your bullet proof vest when you go. ABQ is a super safe town as you know

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My hate for Albuquerque has waned from when we visited during my high school years. It's come a long way sincw then. Still plenty of parts of town to avoid, but that's any city. It's just the number of homeless that bother me when we visit. Otherwise I actually enjoy visiting these days as a good friend moved there a couple years back. Great jumping off point for the southwest.

Santa Fe would make more sense for a GS distributor, Albuquerque doesn't surprise me.

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I could easily retire in Santa Fe. ABQ...not so much. But, at least it's close to a lot of beautiful stuff

There's a car in town with a bumper sticker that says "please... I'm from Houston" which pretty much summarizes my thoughts on ABQ when people talk about how bad the crime, violence, etc here is. The per capita stats are bad, but greater Houston has nearly 4x the population of the whole state of New Mexico. I'll take ABQ any day.

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There's a car in town with a bumper sticker that says "please... I'm from Houston" which pretty much summarizes my thoughts on ABQ when people talk about how bad the crime, violence, etc here is. The per capita stats are bad, but greater Houston has nearly 4x the population of the whole state of New Mexico. I'll take ABQ any day.

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Coming from DFW, it's almost shocking to me how much smaller NM is. There are only 2.1M people in the entire state and almost half of those people are in the ABQ metro.

Rest of state is basically wilderness and pueblos.

Take it to the New Mexico thread!

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Take it to the New Mexico thread!

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Is there one? Sometimes the ski thread goes on a tangent to crap on NM...

Charismatic Megafauna said:

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YouBet said:

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Take it to the New Mexico thread!

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Is there one? Sometimes the ski thread goes on a tangent to crap on NM...

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Ha. Don't think so. I assumed it would be on the Around The Nation board but I haven't found one.

Just aren't enough of us.

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Just aren't enough of us.

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I'm good with that.

I'm finally getting used to most of the aggies license plates around here being utah and unm...

#winning

what a beaut.