My personal stance is, if it doesn't have a screw down crown , it's not getting submerged or even in the shower ..

I would not take a 50M WR watch into the shower or hot tub. Even 100m is iffy without a screw down crown.

AggieFrog said:

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I would not take a 50M WR watch into the shower or hot tub. Even 100m is iffy without a screw down crown.

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https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-vacheron-constantin-overseas-ultra-thin-2500v-is-the-thinnest-overseas-ever-made

VC Overseas thin is back. Severian is right, everything is trending smaller (with this at 39.5mm)

AggieFrog said:

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I would not take a 50M WR watch into the shower or hot tub. Even 100m is iffy without a screw down crown.

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Yep…I wore my MoonSwatch (30m resistance) in the hot tub and submerged it only briefly and it stopped the next day.

sts7049 said:

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why are people worried about a 50m resistance? nobody is actually scuba diving wearing these watches. this would still be more than adequate if you (for some reason) chose to get in a hot tub or take a shower wearing the watch?

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Its a Raymond Weil. I would give those odds 50/50 at best....

Serotonin said:

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https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-vacheron-constantin-overseas-ultra-thin-2500v-is-the-thinnest-overseas-ever-made

VC Overseas thin is back. Severian is right, everything is trending smaller (with this at 39.5mm)

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Nature is healing.

That Oris Moonphase and the VC Overseas are beautiful. That all-white IWC is total lol trash.

That's a phenomenal price for those complications. I also like that they didn't clutter the dial with a date window.

fair enough. take it off then, what's the big deal?

FTAC - with the new Tudor BB58 getting the master chronometer cert and enhanced bracelet, do you see the used market softening for an older model? I looked at a new one yesterday at an AD for $4800 but was thinking older versions may get traded for newer ones.

sts7049 said:

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fair enough. take it off then, what's the big deal?

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With 100m / screwdown crown you aren't worried about wearing it to the pool party, hopping in a hot tub, going with kids to waterpark or even playing in backyard sprinkler, the beach vacation, getting caught in a downpour, washing car, going fishing, etc....

If you have to take it off then you have to start worrying about losing it, someone stealing it, or if it will still get wet anyway.

Ususally new models don't drive down the price of old models for quite a while, the new models just sell for close to msrp rather than discounts for a certain amount of time

fair enough. i'm still a newb to this, so it just didn't make a lot of sense to me.

My understanding also is that in the past, maybe not so much at present, was that 50m was kind of a farce, no real expectation of that level of water-proofing. Which causes a lot of us to be somewhat pessimistic about every-day wear when we see that.

I have seen it said, however, that Omega does actually test and stand behind their 50m rating, for example, the speedmaster professional.

I think most 50M resistance claims are in ideal conditions with cold temperature and static pressure. Really not the same at all relative to any kind of active use case.

Correct, 50m doesn't mean you can take it 150 feet under water, it is like a category of water resistance

https://www.bobswatches.com/watch-resources/a-guide-to-water-resistance?srsltid=AfmBOoqw7KVmcXutDwBsF_guwD3p0xeuRLRiXks1WjkD1bO4Ot3DT69Z
I assume if a watch has an atmosphere figure on it that's actual depth (pressure)

Also, maintaining o-rings and whatnot is super important to water resistance and most people don't do regular maintenance.

This may be my next one...

DPlainview said:

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Got to tell you. I might be in love. Moon phase. GMT. $3k.

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That watch is amazing....I'm off to look deeper. Nice

You and me both. I really like the white dial version

For sure!

(This version is specifically the Le Petite Prince, comes in blue only with an ever so slight gold plate on the hands and engraving on the back).

GOODBULL99 said:

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DPlainview said:

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Got to tell you. I might be in love. Moon phase. GMT. $3k.

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That watch is amazing....I'm off to look deeper. Nice

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I've always wanted a moonphase and never been able to find one that was quite right. Until now.

I LOVE the look. 41 hours makes it a little rough though. With no clear date, I do wonder how one would set that moon phase once it falls out of being wound. I suppose there is a method.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXH59QgjkjX/

i would absolutely buy that just for the smoker "box" it comes in

That's hilarious, but it should have been a diver, because cooking steak is about all I use a bezel for

This is a late April fools joke right?

nealan said:

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This is a late April fools joke right?

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The only 'collab' Patek's ever done (that I'm aware of) is with Tiffany & Co. The Tiffany blue dial is iconic.

So it only makes sense that Weber Grills would be the second. The bratwurst subdial will make this the next iconic piece for collectors.

Ok , I don't have instagram so I couldn't see the video. Then I saw it... definitely a joke. Thank goodness!

Looking for a watch for my wife and getting the same-ole same-ole from the 2 Rolex dealers in Houston about their allotment and availability and waitlist not currently open, blah, blah, blah. I've bought a new Rolex from one of them 2 years ago but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. Oh well, so now I'm here…..

Looking for the following:
Datejust 31mm
Oystersteel and Everrose gold band
White Mother of Pearl with diamonds dial

Any chance to find this watch? Rolex's retail shop wouldn't allow me to get on their waitlist because they said Rolex is having difficulty sourcing the mother of pearl.

TIA!

FTAC2011 should be around shortly. He can likely help you out. Having recently purchased two watches from him, he is a pleasure to deal with.

Looks like Grailzee might have some pre-worn watches that fit that description up on auction.

What mt3950 said, ftac can source whatever you want, will give you the best price, and will likely bring it to your door. No brainer.

Unless something has changed, there is a good chance FTAC could have you something by the end of the weekend.