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double aught said:

walton91 said:

Unless this is a casualty of the rsn implosion. The Adelson's can afford it but could the Mavericks? Adelson's are probably less willing to pour money in to make up for a shortfall than say Cuban would. They are here to build a casino not win NBA titles. Anyone seen any comments from Cuban, btw?

Bob summed this up pretty well
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The Mavericks traded Luka Doncic to the Los Angeles Lakers in a trade that is so lopsided and out of left field that you cannot even believe it is real. It feels like the NBA allowed the Lakers to write up a deal and submit it without the Mavericks having any say in the matter.

https://bobsturm.substack.com/p/quick-hit-mavericks-trade-luka-doncic

My wife just suggested that maybe Nico is about to take a job with the Lakers. Totally ridiculous, but it would explain this nonsense.
Except that this move cost Luka $116 Million in contract potential with the supermax extension versus what he can do with the Lakers. I doubt very much he's interested in working with Nico again.
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Teams don't move out of a market like Dallas. They move from Memphis or New Orleans or Sacramento.
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And teams don't make the consensus worst trade in the history of sports either. Any speculation is fair game at this point. I'm just glad I stopped caring about the NBA 20 years ago. I'd be livid if this was the Stars. I'd laugh if it was the Cowboys.
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Jock92 said:

Teams don't move out of a market like Dallas. They move from Memphis or New Orleans or Sacramento.


Houston Oilers on line 1.
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In reality no one on the stars is at a Luca level.
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The Pilot said:

In reality no one on the stars is at a Luca level.
Correct. Luca = McDavid. Unreal how incompetent this trade is. I love it for the entertainment value.
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Everytime I see MFFL from now on, it will instantly be read as FML.
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The Pilot said:

Jock92 said:

Teams don't move out of a market like Dallas. They move from Memphis or New Orleans or Sacramento.


Houston Oilers on line 1.
Yeah. But Houston in 1994 is maybe a third of the market size of DFW in 2025.
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Norman Elizabeth Hitler's take
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-wondering-with-norm-hitzges/id1702002645?i=1000688428705
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Just unbelievable
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The biggest issue is the lack of draft picks coming back for one of the best players in the world. Nico only contacted the Lakers. Something is going on and it sucks for Mavs fans.
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Doesn't look 270 to me
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The Pilot said:

Jock92 said:

Teams don't move out of a market like Dallas. They move from Memphis or New Orleans or Sacramento.


Houston Oilers on line 1.


Dallas Texans on line 2.
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Report back please. I doubt they have anything impactful. But maybe so
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The Adelsons are not basketball people. This seems hard to believe, but it is the only conspiracy theory I've read that actually makes sense to me, as it aligns with what the Adelsons truly care about, which is making money off gambling.

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Interesting. Dan Patrick has said that there is a no public groundswell to legalize casino gambling in Texas. Donations and Lobbyists won't change that in two years. And if the donations & lobbyists aren't enough to convince him & the legislature, neither will Mavs moving.
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GarlandAg2012 said:

The Adelsons are not basketball people. This seems hard to believe, but it is the only conspiracy theory I've read that actually makes sense to me, as it aligns with what the Adelsons truly care about, which is making money off gambling.



What happened to point #10?

Also, gotta feel for AD here. He didn't organize the trade but is getting strays left and right.
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I also watched Major League
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Rudyjax said:

The Pilot said:

Jock92 said:

Teams don't move out of a market like Dallas. They move from Memphis or New Orleans or Sacramento.


Houston Oilers on line 1.


Dallas Texans on line 2.

Is Oakland major market? See Raiders, and more specifically the A's in how to destroy a team in order to move it.

And can't forget the Rams going from LA to St Louis and back again.
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Playing this in the background and Skin just said be believes Nico looked at the Thunder and Spurs and concluded the Mavs won't be able to build a better team than them over the next ~10 years, so once Kyrie and Klay and those guys are done, their window is shut. So, he's basically going all-in to win in the next 3 years because if they don't now, they won't win a title again for a long time.

I think a lot of us would argue that as long as you have Luka, you have a chance to compete for the next decade, but I'm guessing Nico is also aware that the Mavs don't have the future assets to keep building around him once this current supporting cast is gone. Not sure I agree, but just reporting what he's saying.
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Aren't they Mavs employees? They can't say anything negative.
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They didn't have many assets a few years ago, yet still built a Finals supporting cast around Luka which is even better this year.
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J.P. 03 said:



I think a lot of us would argue that as long as you have Luka, you have a chance to compete for the next decade, but I'm guessing Nico is also aware that the Mavs don't have the future assets to keep building around him once this current supporting cast is gone.
Seems like it would be the job of a GM to fix this.
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The Mavs not having future assets is an argument to flip your generational talent for 4 or 5 first round picks not 1.
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Nico got swindled by the Lakers. Rarely will you get the best deal by only having 1 trade partner. Should have opened up the lines of communication between a couple teams and then at least forced the Lakers to give up a couple more 1st rd picks.
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Absolutely.

He needed Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill in the room.
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Apparently the original traded included Knecht and multiple firsts as well. Imagine being Pelinka, you get a call from Nico that they are looking to get rid of Luka. You hear the offer, and it's a no brainer. Then, after laughing your butt off with your team, you call Nico back and convince him that his ask is too high.

Unreal. It's almost like the GM is a shoe salesman.
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I don't think Niko was looking for a bunch of offers. I think he believes AD is the piece he wanted and that Luka wasn't worth extending so he went to the lakers and asked them what they could offer.
Did he get enough? I don't think so but it's pretty clear this wasn't a move about getting a bunch of future chips. He clearly targeted AD.
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MavsAg said:

Apparently the original traded included Knecht and multiple firsts as well. Imagine being Pelinka, you get a call from Nico that they are looking to get rid of Luka. You hear the offer, and it's a no brainer. Then, after laughing your butt off with your team, you call Nico back and convince him that his ask is too high.

Unreal. It's almost like the GM is a shoe salesman.


Getting Knecht in the deal would have made this a lot more palatable.
Future late round draft picks don't mean much to me except as your own trade pieces.
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t - cam said:

I I think he believes AD is the piece he wanted and that Luka wasn't worth extending so he went to the lakers and asked them what they could offer.

He clearly targeted AD.


So Nico is out of a job less than a year from now?
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MavsAg said:

Apparently the original traded included Knecht and multiple firsts as well. Imagine being Pelinka, you get a call from Nico that they are looking to get rid of Luka. You hear the offer, and it's a no brainer. Then, after laughing your butt off with your team, you call Nico back and convince him that his ask is too high.

Unreal. It's almost like the GM is a shoe salesman.
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Depending on how much audio they captured, I may be about to retract every single negative thing I've said about the Spunt Camoose bit:

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