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1310 The Ticket - Hardline Question

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MECH Abe said:

This fall Norm will discuss the aging Zeke holding back the younger, more capable Pollard without the least bit of irony.


TRUTH
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Donny tearing up almost got me
dcAg
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It is that absolute truth and reality of the situation.
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So true
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Yep, hosts will have to step it up, Cumulus has specifically posted in the job opening that producer is not going to be an on-air role.
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What a bummer of an announcement. Sirois was great. Always liked listening to Sirois and Donny and seriously thought I would be hearing them together for years and years once Norm was gone.

I'm not upset at Norm. I'm upset at Cumulus for not having the balls to force Norm to retire or force him into a reduced roll (give him the old Dale Hansen treatment and have him on a couple hours a week or something).

I honestly can't believe the station is mortgaging their future for another year or two of Norm (please only be for another year or two).
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I'd also be crying if i was Donnie. Carrying a show with just Norm and no Mike to keep your sanity would suck so bad. The me and grandpappy show
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Assuming Norm is the reason that Mike is leaving and it's not just Mike wanting to go work with Cash in his businesses, is it possible that Norm has some kind of extended nasty contract that Cumulus doesn't want to fight about? Customer Service Norm is absolutely going to drag his attorney into the mix if Cumulus tries to adjust his hours or contract parameters in any way right? That obviously doesn't keep Cumulus from moving Mike to the Hardline with extensive fill in work from time to time.....

That makes me think this was just Mike choosing to move on to a different role in life.
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I think him wanting to work with his brother is a huge part of it. I'm surprised because I get the impression that he enjoys being "local" famous, and that will wane some. He's got such a big personality I'm sure he'll be fine no matter where he goes, but I think a lot of his notoriety is thanks in part to the ticket and i wonder how much of that will stick around. I know I don't really care to follow Rhyner much anymore, but that's me. I was never on Sirois twitch feeds or whatever anyway.

As for Cumulus, I think they may have shot themselves in the foot a little bit. I imagine that those tier 2 personalities that were ready kept the other hosts in check a little bit. When you save a buck by not keeping the replacements around, you give the hosts pretty much all the leverage because there's nobody waiting in the wings to take over if they demand too much.
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I think Norm will be there as long as he wants to because of his relationship with Dan Bennett. Dan was his producer at KLIF when Dan first came to Dallas.
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Good point on hosts having a little more leverage. As far as the potential Norm contract stuff above, surely he's been on short enough deals that the opportunity to alter the scope has presented itself multiple times in the not too distant past
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Stive said:

Assuming Norm is the reason that Mike is leaving and it's not just Mike wanting to go work with Cash in his businesses, is it possible that Norm has some kind of extended nasty contract that Cumulus doesn't want to fight about? Customer Service Norm is absolutely going to drag his attorney into the mix if Cumulus tries to adjust his hours or contract parameters in any way right? That obviously doesn't keep Cumulus from moving Mike to the Hardline with extensive fill in work from time to time.....

That makes me think this was just Mike choosing to move on to a different role in life.
Norm is on a 2 year deal, but I'm pretty sure he just signed it earlier this year. Not long term, but also not going anywhere right now.
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The talent pipeline is now bare. They need to flush these god awful weekend morning shows and see if they can't find a crop of younger talent. Country Force, Work In Progress, Elf. All awful and they've all had shows for years. Not gonna get better
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Elf is extra, extra, extra crispy bad.
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I enjoy Elf on Sunday morning because he actually talks college sports when everyone else is NFL.
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Really wish Cumulus would just sell off the Ticket.
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MW03 said:



As for Cumulus, I think they may have shot themselves in the foot a little bit. I imagine that those tier 2 personalities that were ready kept the other hosts in check a little bit. When you save a buck by not keeping the replacements around, you give the hosts pretty much all the leverage because there's nobody waiting in the wings to take over if they demand too much.
I can't imagine there's anyone on the corporate level at Cumulus who gives two ****s about producers at the Ticket. I bet it's also why when Jake fought his contract they actually caved and compromised- because Jake has been a host for two years and his show does get great ratings in the right demographic. But a producer trying to get more for themselves? No way
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Instead of an elevated spot for Sirois, he's leaving…this is a big bummer

Somehow I feel Norm is responsible too
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That's two talented/longtime Ticket producers gone in the last month. Did Cumulus cut pay?
Moe Jzyslak
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They certainly didn't increase pay. With the economy right now, no raise is equal to a pay cut, so yeah.
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Is there more color on listening data? As the hosts have gotten older I wonder if there is a crop of excited 20-somethings who worship the station the way there has been in the past. Is Jake the last of that era? I like Mino as a board op but sometimes he has a bag when it comes to hardcore sports talk.
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Spaceship said:

Somehow I feel Norm is responsible too


He probably is, but I can't blame him for continuing to work. Mary has gotta eat after Norm goes.
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Someone that knows him above posted that his brother was doing very well. He's leaving to work with his brother.

Seems like brother Cash called and said come work for you and I'll pay you a lot more.

Time to go.
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What is cash doing?
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I'm still holding out hope that if a host position opens up in the next 2-3 years that Sirois will be their first call.
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Cash has a video production company called The Well Creative that does a ton of work for the Mavs and also has a fairly new company called The Collectible Network that deals with sports memorabilia. Mike was already working some for Cash around his Ticket schedule, but apparently Cash has a lot of work that he needs help with and I'm sure he can pay his brother pretty handsomely. I'm sure it would've taken a tier 1 gig at the ticket to keep Mikey from making this move.
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Quote:

Later, in a phone interview, Sirois said he weighed the decision carefully, checking in with Ticket employees and then reaching his conclusion.

"How long do you continue to something that's perfect and fun everyday versus some other opportunities that might come your way." he said. "I think it will be a better financial opportunity than sticking around."

A Cumulus station
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Legal Custodian said:

I'm still holding out hope that if a host position opens up in the next 2-3 years that Sirois will be their first call.
my exact comment to a buddy. 5 years from now, norm hangs it up, morning drive hands it up, and you have boom in the house.
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J.P. 03 said:

Quote:

Later, in a phone interview, Sirois said he weighed the decision carefully, checking in with Ticket employees and then reaching his conclusion.

"How long do you continue to something that's perfect and fun everyday versus some other opportunities that might come your way." he said. "I think it will be a better financial opportunity than sticking around."

A Cumulus station
that's the rub. a lot of these guys have to trade doing what they love/enjoy (mike said as much) for dollars...er cash
hoosier-daddy
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So TC got laid off. Anybody know who he worked for?
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hoosier-daddy said:

So TC got laid off. Anybody know who he worked for?


Where did you see that?

Speculation he'll come back possibly?
hoosier-daddy
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No. IJB

At the end he said he was "directing podcast stuff"

And Jake said when he was off the air it was due to contract.
DannyDuberstein
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No cirque and no fill-ins makes this one feel like it ended a bit contentiously with management.
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Legal Custodian said:

hoosier-daddy said:

So TC got laid off. Anybody know who he worked for?


Where did you see that?

Speculation he'll come back possibly?
Please no
ac04
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occurred to me this morning that the two people responsible for "metal bats, too" by the red hot chili peppers are both gone now.
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