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I can tell you that is exactly how COD deals with it. I work in an office with 16 people. If someone goes out on FMLA, unless they tell you beforehand it WILL NOT be discussed until they are back or gone. The HR lady may have occasional contact, but no one else is to make direct contact. Even accepting a message from the person can put you in a bind.

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I work for the city too and that is not the way we handle it at all.

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Ursus description is the correct way to handle FMLA.

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Me texting someone who is out with their new baby or making sure they received financial help while they're out with their child with cancer is not exposing the city to anything. I don't know how it works where you work, but where I work we try to always have someone check on each other.

That's personal, not work related. I really don't appreciate the insinuation that I didn't check on my boss with cancer who've i know for 10 years while he was out.

What I didn't do was ask him about work.

As both a lawyer and an HR administrator, my practice is that the employer should not be contacting the employee about anything work related as the employee on FMLA is not at work. The HR department can contact the employee about returns to work etc.

Personal phone calls between friends are not the same thing.

FMLA creates a very bright line that the employer should not allow to be crossed.

You're a lawyer AND an HR administrator?

TSUAggie said:

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You're a lawyer AND an HR administrator?

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No kidding. Can we get Troy91 to hitch a ride with James Cameron when he goes to the Mariana Trench?

Humanitarian mission.

Call me when you need advice.

Don't know your department, but my department is very strict about it. You may hear generic updates from friends in the office, but anything work related is a no go. We are reminded on a regular basis.

Ahhh, figured out the department. Yeah, y'all probably get a little more leeway....We had a lady last year that got a chronic cough, and long story short discovered she had early stages of lung cancer and while under sedation for treatment had a stroke (which we learned about months later). The division hr lady was allowed to make periodic contact about return to work status. We were flat out told not to contact her even for a personal "How are you doing?". She was low man (so no real peer) in the building, pretty much everyone else is in a higher admin or manager role, so a simple "how are you?" could be construed to be fishing for information or possibly trying to pressure for a faster return....not kidding. Now if we were in CH, there might be a little more leeway.

ursusguy said:

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Don't know your department, but my department is very strict about it. You may hear generic updates from friends in the office, but anything work related is a no go. We are reminded on a regular basis.

Ahhh, figured out the department. Yeah, y'all probably get a little more leeway....We had a lady last year that got a chronic cough, and long story short discovered she had early stages of lung cancer and while under sedation for treatment had a stroke (which we learned about months later). The division hr lady was allowed to make periodic contact about return to work status. We were flat out told not to contact her even for a personal "How are you doing?". She was low man (so no real peer) in the building, pretty much everyone else is in a higher admin or manager role, so a simple "how are you?" could be construed to be fishing for information or possibly trying to pressure for a faster return....not kidding. Now if we were in CH, there might be a little more leeway.

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That is crazy to me. I try to contact anyone I know is it so they won't feel abandoned.

Deats said:

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That's personal, not work related. I really don't appreciate the insinuation that I didn't check on my boss with cancer who've i know for 10 years while he was out.

What I didn't do was ask him about work.

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Was not trying to insinuate anything about you personally. I apologize if it came off that way. Btw, I've had bosses who I have wanted to get cancer and would not have checked on.

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Don't know your department, but my department is very strict about it. You may hear generic updates from friends in the office, but anything work related is a no go. We are reminded on a regular basis.

Ahhh, figured out the department. Yeah, y'all probably get a little more leeway....We had a lady last year that got a chronic cough, and long story short discovered she had early stages of lung cancer and while under sedation for treatment had a stroke (which we learned about months later). The division hr lady was allowed to make periodic contact about return to work status. We were flat out told not to contact her even for a personal "How are you doing?". She was low man (so no real peer) in the building, pretty much everyone else is in a higher admin or manager role, so a simple "how are you?" could be construed to be fishing for information or possibly trying to pressure for a faster return....not kidding. Now if we were in CH, there might be a little more leeway.

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This is bull***** And sub human.

Agreed. It was a shock for me when I came from TPWD. With TPWD, we pretty much all worked remotely from each other, and might see each other quarter, but of you were down for some reason you might get too much help. With TPWD, it was very much as you describe.

Interesting.

/didn't like her gig.

I'm sure the Team Bazaldua's move to hammer the DPD budget will help with recruiting.

The good news is there can't be possibly anything that would cause our city to be in turmoil on November 10.

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The good news is there can't be possibly anything that would cause our city to be in turmoil on November 10.

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Is there a boat parade planned for the Trinity?

The first question on the police chief application should be , "do you like this gig?"

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The first question on the police chief application should be , "do you like this gig?"

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That wasn't the question.

A number of of inquiries about future career opportunities and she's resigning Nov. 10th. Some genius out there wants to push her into politics

Even in her resignation she f^cks the city of Dallas. Her last day is November 10 which is seven days after the presidential election which could easily result in massive protests, anarchy, and violence.

And we are going to have the lamest of duck policy chiefs still in office during the first seven days of it.

How about leave now so we can replace your worthless ass and be prepared for that event.

I doubt she's really running the department today, much less the last official week of her employment.

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A number of of inquiries about future career opportunities and she's resigning Nov. 10th. Some genius out there wants to push her into politics

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Her resignation date has been pushed to the end of the year, per the city manager's request.

My opinion is that if Chief Hall wants to stay in law enforcement, she needs to go to a much smaller city or go back to being a support role (Assistant Chief of Whatever).

Maybe Rochester?

She's taking a patrol gig in Desoto

There's no one to take her place. All the good chiefs were already run out of Dallas and are at other departments.