cityagboy said:The Fall Guy said:Apache said:Oltorf?Quote:
He works at an HEB in South Austin.
Broadie/William Cannon
It's the Wild West down in the Sunset Valley
The Fall Guy said:cityagboy said:The Fall Guy said:Apache said:Oltorf?Quote:
He works at an HEB in South Austin.
Broadie/William Cannon
It's the Wild West down in the Sunset Valley
Make fun of it all you want but also 6 dead homeless people in the woods around the store and down the road. It's a problem. Don't normalize it.
Can we meet outside of Austin? I dont want to deal with parking and homeless people accosting me at the meeting spot.cityagboy said:
If you you want to have a real discussion about this let's meet you and do so. I've made the offer to meet up and have a real discussion on this thread and others but no one takes me up on it cause everyone just wants to be a keyboard warrior. Hope you are different.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:Can we meet outside of Austin? I dont want to deal with parking and homeless people accosting me at the meeting spot.cityagboy said:
If you you want to have a real discussion about this let's meet you and do so. I've made the offer to meet up and have a real discussion on this thread and others but no one takes me up on it cause everyone just wants to be a keyboard warrior. Hope you are different.
Putting aside the fact no party has a "shoplifting should be allowed" stance, it's the result of a small number of misdirected folks and bad decisions, I find some other parts of your reply laughably ironic.Reload8098 said:This is what is so damn crazy. You can't even protect your business. I can't wrap my head around this. I don't understand the thinking. Nothing about it is rational. Does anyone have integrity, character, moral fiber anymore? My father, (class of '47) fought in WWII and Korea. He lost a lot of friends, many of which were fellow Aggies. The greatest generation has been royally slapped in the face. I wish the states would just split. The two parties are so far apart, I don't see how this doesn't end very badly.Quote:
Don't try to confront them either because if the shop lifter gets hurt they will blame the one who tried to stop it.
Complete Idiot said:Putting aside the fact no party has a "shoplifting should be allowed" stance, it's the result of a small number of misdirected folks and bad decisions, I find some other parts of your reply laughably ironic.Reload8098 said:This is what is so damn crazy. You can't even protect your business. I can't wrap my head around this. I don't understand the thinking. Nothing about it is rational. Does anyone have integrity, character, moral fiber anymore? My father, (class of '47) fought in WWII and Korea. He lost a lot of friends, many of which were fellow Aggies. The greatest generation has been royally slapped in the face. I wish the states would just split. The two parties are so far apart, I don't see how this doesn't end very badly.Quote:
Don't try to confront them either because if the shop lifter gets hurt they will blame the one who tried to stop it.
Applauding the greatest generation's integrity, character and moral fiber while they defended, to the point of death of soldiers from all types of political/racial/religious/etc backgrounds, the ideals of America and ALL Americans (again, of all types) and then turning around and stating "I give up let's divide America into two countries cuz this is too hard to fix guyz" is just unbelievably insulting to the sacrifices made by your father. Thanks for fighting with your lives, we can't even fight with canvassing and grassroots efforts and actually showing up and exercising the right to vote you guys died for.
There may not be quick easy fixes but things can be fixed. Extremism in political views is currently a big distraction in the US but I still feel we are talking about less than 15% total of all Americans generating 80% of the political noise distracting us all from tackling real on the ground issues. I remain hopeful we can swing back to political discourse that while argumentative and from opposing viewpoints results in compromises and decisions than benefit the most Americans as possible, as often as possible.
You need to rethink that stance after you go look at all the stores closing in San Fran because the level of theft reached the point where it exceeded their profit margins. Sure, they will use high profit in some locations to offset low profit in others, but there is no reason to keep a store turning a loss open by propping it up with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:
Companies don't care about theft. They will just account for the losses in the prices WE pay. It's a trend for this country.
They may not explicitly state it in the party platform, but there are Dem DAs all over this country (not coincidently mostly backed by Soros money) that have made it a policy to not charge "petty crime" offenses like shoplifting. When the DAs stop charging them, the cops stop responding to calls for it, and the criminals realize they can do it freely without penalty. The more it goes unpunished, the more people realize they are a sucker if they keep paying for what they want, and eventually the store closes because they can't turn a profit. Store closings for this reason are happening all over California and will be happening in Austin too if the DA doesn't change course.Complete Idiot said:Putting aside the fact no party has a "shoplifting should be allowed" stance, it's the result of a small number of misdirected folks and bad decisions, I find some other parts of your reply laughably ironic.Reload8098 said:This is what is so damn crazy. You can't even protect your business. I can't wrap my head around this. I don't understand the thinking. Nothing about it is rational. Does anyone have integrity, character, moral fiber anymore? My father, (class of '47) fought in WWII and Korea. He lost a lot of friends, many of which were fellow Aggies. The greatest generation has been royally slapped in the face. I wish the states would just split. The two parties are so far apart, I don't see how this doesn't end very badly.Quote:
Don't try to confront them either because if the shop lifter gets hurt they will blame the one who tried to stop it.
Applauding the greatest generation's integrity, character and moral fiber while they defended, to the point of death of soldiers from all types of political/racial/religious/etc backgrounds, the ideals of America and ALL Americans (again, of all types) and then turning around and stating "I give up let's divide America into two countries cuz this is too hard to fix guyz" is just unbelievably insulting to the sacrifices made by your father. Thanks for fighting with your lives, we can't even fight with canvassing and grassroots efforts and actually showing up and exercising the right to vote you guys died for.
There may not be quick easy fixes but things can be fixed. Extremism in political views is currently a big distraction in the US but I still feel we are talking about less than 15% total of all Americans generating 80% of the political noise distracting us all from tackling real on the ground issues. I remain hopeful we can swing back to political discourse that while argumentative and from opposing viewpoints results in compromises and decisions than benefit the most Americans as possible, as often as possible.
It is way more than just them. Walgreens has closed 17 locations in San Fran last I checked, Whole Foods closed a huge flagship location that had only been open for a year, AmazonGo closed at least one, Food Lion closed a few. There is a good map of what has closed on the SanFran Chronicle site, but it is paywalled.Chipotlemonger said:
Yep, just this week Nordstrom closed 2 stores in SF.
Good point. IMO I think those stores are a lost cause. People here in Austin, for the most part, still at the very least try to hide theft and is frowned upon. Austin is not San Fran, not even close... but like I've mentioned before, San Fran is another example of a city that Austin has no business comparing itself to.txags92 said:You need to rethink that stance after you go look at all the stores closing in San Fran because the level of theft reached the point where it exceeded their profit margins. Sure, they will use high profit in some locations to offset low profit in others, but there is no reason to keep a store turning a loss open by propping it up with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:
Companies don't care about theft. They will just account for the losses in the prices WE pay. It's a trend for this country.
BQ78 said:
There is the problem in your thinking. All big cities are circling down the drain so don't compare. Big deal if Austin is the prettiest pig at the Miss America contest
Austin is closer to San Fran that most want to admit, at least as far as trajectory. When the DA won't prosecute petty crime and the police are too understaffed to try to police it, it is only a matter of time before the criminal element learns which crimes they can commit with impunity, and you will see an explosion of those crimes. Shoplifting is one of them. You can account for small scale theft with increased prices, but when the theft reaches a point that it no longer just cuts into profits, but eliminates them entirely, a company would have to be stupid to keep the store open and try to cover the losses there with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:Good point. IMO I think those stores are a lost cause. People here in Austin, for the most part, still at the very least try to hide theft and is frowned upon. Austin is not San Fran, not even close... but like I've mentioned before, San Fran is another example of a city that Austin has no business comparing itself to.txags92 said:You need to rethink that stance after you go look at all the stores closing in San Fran because the level of theft reached the point where it exceeded their profit margins. Sure, they will use high profit in some locations to offset low profit in others, but there is no reason to keep a store turning a loss open by propping it up with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:
Companies don't care about theft. They will just account for the losses in the prices WE pay. It's a trend for this country.
I'm not referring to high profits from some locations, I'm referring to inflating prices of every goods across all stores to account for the theft. Austin is not in the same sentence as San Fran but it also has no business there as well. Action is needed now, not later.
I'm mostly agreeing with you. I'm glad the city is crumbling due to their policies. I don't see how anyone would want to live around that. I'm just saying that every store increases price to account for their theft losses. It's ridiculous that the community is blaming the companies leaving. But hey, that's the victim mentality way.txags92 said:Austin is closer to San Fran that most want to admit, at least as far as trajectory. When the DA won't prosecute petty crime and the police are too understaffed to try to police it, it is only a matter of time before the criminal element learns which crimes they can commit with impunity, and you will see an explosion of those crimes. Shoplifting is one of them. You can account for small scale theft with increased prices, but when the theft reaches a point that it no longer just cuts into profits, but eliminates them entirely, a company would have to be stupid to keep the store open and try to cover the losses there with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:Good point. IMO I think those stores are a lost cause. People here in Austin, for the most part, still at the very least try to hide theft and is frowned upon. Austin is not San Fran, not even close... but like I've mentioned before, San Fran is another example of a city that Austin has no business comparing itself to.txags92 said:You need to rethink that stance after you go look at all the stores closing in San Fran because the level of theft reached the point where it exceeded their profit margins. Sure, they will use high profit in some locations to offset low profit in others, but there is no reason to keep a store turning a loss open by propping it up with profits from elsewhere.emando2000 said:
Companies don't care about theft. They will just account for the losses in the prices WE pay. It's a trend for this country.
I'm not referring to high profits from some locations, I'm referring to inflating prices of every goods across all stores to account for the theft. Austin is not in the same sentence as San Fran but it also has no business there as well. Action is needed now, not later.
That is what is so sad about reading the stories about San Fran. Instead of blaming the criminals and the DA for the store closings, the locals want to blame them on greed. They complain about how Walgreens turned a huge profit nationally and that they "owe it to the community" to stay open and keep serving them, even though the local location is operating at a loss. Newsflash, Walgreens is a business, not a charity. The only thing they "owe" any community is to sell their products at a reasonable price and pay their taxes. If the community wants a Walgreens, then they need to figure out how to keep local homeless folks and organized theft rings from trying to rob Walgreens blind.
bankshot11 said:
Nah Prop A is a good thing. The cop temper tantrums on Twitter are hilarious!
BLM member?bankshot11 said:
Nah Prop A is a good thing. The cop temper tantrums on Twitter are hilarious!
bankshot11 said:
Maybe we can replace them with cops who actually do their jobs?
Good luck finding any cops that want to come work in Austin with the DA gunning for them and Prop A poised to release their personnel file to whoever feels like that want to see it.bankshot11 said:
Maybe we can replace them with cops who actually do their jobs?
Be more specific on the drug use. At home? On the street? Weed? Cocaine? Heroine? Meth? Behavior?The Fall Guy said:bankshot11 said:
Maybe we can replace them with cops who actually do their jobs?
To let rec drug use be ok and theft be a norm?
txags92 said:Good luck finding any cops that want to come work in Austin with the DA gunning for them and Prop A poised to release their personnel file to whoever feels like that want to see it.bankshot11 said:
Maybe we can replace them with cops who actually do their jobs?
Similar to having a full roster with good depth on an athletic team, you are better able to replace the lower performing members when you have adequate staffing.bankshot11 said:
Maybe we can replace them with cops who actually do their jobs?
