It isn't even a new thing. When my catalytic converter got stolen out of my driveway about 10 years ago, nobody from the HCSD would even come out to take the report. They just said to file the report online. I found out the day after I filed the report that the neighbor across the street had video of the car that did it and the guy was clearly visible getting out of the car and coming back to put my cat. conv. in his trunk. I never received any response to the report from HCSD and even when I called to let them know we had video of the perp, I got zero response from them. If I had something similar happen again today, I wouldn't bother reporting it unless the insurance company wanted a copy of the filed report. The police are useless when it comes to property crimes and everybody knows it, including the criminals.Definitely Not A Cop said:txags92 said:I find it interesting that they use some convoluted "social cost of crime" per capita stat instead of just # of crimes per capita. I don't really care enough to go dig into their methodology to see how they are tweaking things, but I would love to see them ranked purely by violent crime per capita and property crime per capita. I am sure Austin would still be better than Houston, but as I said earlier, that is a very low bar to clear.SteveBott said:
Per this report Austin is 15th safest city with population of 300k or more.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2023/01/31/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-crime-in-america/?sh=43d0c1714b25
I question how accurate any of this data truly is in any large urban area. If your car gets broken into in any big city, you are lucky to get a police officer to even show up now to file the report in person. Most won't DA's won't charge anyone stealing less than X amount of dollars, so cops don't bother trying to arrest. I am very doubtful that most crime is being reported accurately.
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Yeah I'm pretty sick of people thinking Austin is safe. As people mentioned before... bar is set pretty low if you're comparing it to Houston or SA. It's only going to get worse with no signs of turning it around. The number of drugs running through this city is ridiculous. Cocaine, meth, fentanyl, shrooms, weed, xanax, oxi... So many in this city walk around medicated. And save me the pot is good anxiety or this and shrooms are good for ptsd comments. I don't discount that at all but that is not why people are using. I have so many friends that make those claims as well. Have you tried stop drinking so much combined with a healthy diet and exercise? It works. But that's too difficult. Drugs are a problem because a lot of these users view policing as the problem. Look in a damn mirror every now and then.
Cops are good, the mentality of this city is unhealthy. As fit of a city as Austin is, it's just lip stick.
Cops are good, the mentality of this city is unhealthy. As fit of a city as Austin is, it's just lip stick.
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.kxan.com/news/like-im-just-your-prey-survivor-pushes-for-victim-rights-after-attacker-gets-probation-sentence/
https://www.kxan.com/news/like-im-just-your-prey-survivor-pushes-for-victim-rights-after-attacker-gets-probation-sentence/
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AUSTIN (KXAN) A man who admitted to attacking a woman and exposing himself to a child is now on probation for the next 10 years.
The survivor Lynn Isaak made it her mission to find who attacked her, and might be the very reason police were able to arrest Antonio Rios. Rios pleaded guilty to charges of aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury and injury to a child for indecent exposure.
Nearly a dozen other women across the Austin area claim he preyed on them as well for nearly half a year before he got caught.
Gonna add more. 3 different sources much closer to Austin situation than most on here commenting.
I know a former student Class of 1998 who works for APD. I ran into him about 2 years ago and he mentioned how bad it is getting. From his mouth. "If you have an emergency, we cannot get to you in time". Cops leaving the city and others retiring early b/c they were fed up with the changes.
A coworker dates the office in charge of recruiting and setting up the incoming cadets. APD is playing catch up at this point. During the BLM riot bs all classes were frozen. Cops were treated as the enemy and he said the same thing that cops were fed up and leaving. Well fast forward to a year and a half ago. He was told to push cadets through the process, even unqualified ones. The screening process for APD and AFD were difficult. The requirements for both have dropped tremendously. It's real. It's no hearsay.
Over the Easter weekend I had a conversation with a family member that works for a judge here in Austin. She's worked with this precinct for over 20 years. They're dismissing cases nonstop. Cops hands are tied, they're only told to work high crimes. (homicide, trafficking and armed robbery) Guess what criminals... As long as you don't do that, you're in the clear.
Austin had to outsource DPS officers to man the streets. They issued a months worth of APD tickets in 1, singe, weekend....1!!! The police presence is needed but you have the local head of the NAACP and a city council woman go on the local news station doing interviews concerned about "what the DPS' role was on our Austin streets and community". And are they "establishing relationships with the community". Idiots!!! The audacity of those people to act like they didn't know what was going on. They know, they just need facetime for votes and to brew up opposition and attention.
I've said this over in other threads and it gets under my skin when people discount what's going on in Austin. Almost 3 mil people live in Austin, just because you haven't experienced anything doesn't mean it isn't happening. I gave you 3 examples of 3 unrelated people closer than people on this board to the situation and STILL some discount Austin not going to downhill.
I know a former student Class of 1998 who works for APD. I ran into him about 2 years ago and he mentioned how bad it is getting. From his mouth. "If you have an emergency, we cannot get to you in time". Cops leaving the city and others retiring early b/c they were fed up with the changes.
A coworker dates the office in charge of recruiting and setting up the incoming cadets. APD is playing catch up at this point. During the BLM riot bs all classes were frozen. Cops were treated as the enemy and he said the same thing that cops were fed up and leaving. Well fast forward to a year and a half ago. He was told to push cadets through the process, even unqualified ones. The screening process for APD and AFD were difficult. The requirements for both have dropped tremendously. It's real. It's no hearsay.
Over the Easter weekend I had a conversation with a family member that works for a judge here in Austin. She's worked with this precinct for over 20 years. They're dismissing cases nonstop. Cops hands are tied, they're only told to work high crimes. (homicide, trafficking and armed robbery) Guess what criminals... As long as you don't do that, you're in the clear.
Austin had to outsource DPS officers to man the streets. They issued a months worth of APD tickets in 1, singe, weekend....1!!! The police presence is needed but you have the local head of the NAACP and a city council woman go on the local news station doing interviews concerned about "what the DPS' role was on our Austin streets and community". And are they "establishing relationships with the community". Idiots!!! The audacity of those people to act like they didn't know what was going on. They know, they just need facetime for votes and to brew up opposition and attention.
I've said this over in other threads and it gets under my skin when people discount what's going on in Austin. Almost 3 mil people live in Austin, just because you haven't experienced anything doesn't mean it isn't happening. I gave you 3 examples of 3 unrelated people closer than people on this board to the situation and STILL some discount Austin not going to downhill.
Yep. They will keep telling you that the rising water is no big deal as long their head is a few inches higher than Houston, San Antonio, or Dallas, even when the other three go underwater and start drowning.emando2000 said:
Gonna add more. 3 different sources much closer to Austin situation than most on here commenting.
I know a former student Class of 1998 who works for APD. I ran into him about 2 years ago and he mentioned how bad it is getting. From his mouth. "If you have an emergency, we cannot get to you in time". Cops leaving the city and others retiring early b/c they were fed up with the changes.
A coworker dates the office in charge of recruiting and setting up the incoming cadets. APD is playing catch up at this point. During the BLM riot bs all classes were frozen. Cops were treated as the enemy and he said the same thing that cops were fed up and leaving. Well fast forward to a year and a half ago. He was told to push cadets through the process, even unqualified ones. The screening process for APD and AFD were difficult. The requirements for both have dropped tremendously. It's real. It's no hearsay.
Over the Easter weekend I had a conversation with a family member that works for a judge here in Austin. She's worked with this precinct for over 20 years. They're dismissing cases nonstop. Cops hands are tied, they're only told to work high crimes. (homicide, trafficking and armed robbery) Guess what criminals... As long as you don't do that, you're in the clear.
Austin had to outsource DPS officers to man the streets. They issued a months worth of APD tickets in 1, singe, weekend....1!!! The police presence is needed but you have the local head of the NAACP and a city council woman go on the local news station doing interviews concerned about "what the DPS' role was on our Austin streets and community". And are they "establishing relationships with the community". Idiots!!! The audacity of those people to act like they didn't know what was going on. They know, they just need facetime for votes and to brew up opposition and attention.
I've said this over in other threads and it gets under my skin when people discount what's going on in Austin. Almost 3 mil people live in Austin, just because you haven't experienced anything doesn't mean it isn't happening. I gave you 3 examples of 3 unrelated people closer than people on this board to the situation and STILL some discount Austin not going to downhill.
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Enjoy your minivans and fear of George Soros shadow.
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
Is that why you ignore the outrageous actions/inactions of your wimpy little DA?
The city of Austin's goal is to be like Seattle and Portland.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
Probation?!?! Da fuq?Leeman said:
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.kxan.com/news/like-im-just-your-prey-survivor-pushes-for-victim-rights-after-attacker-gets-probation-sentence/Quote:
AUSTIN (KXAN) A man who admitted to attacking a woman and exposing himself to a child is now on probation for the next 10 years.
The survivor Lynn Isaak made it her mission to find who attacked her, and might be the very reason police were able to arrest Antonio Rios. Rios pleaded guilty to charges of aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury and injury to a child for indecent exposure.
Nearly a dozen other women across the Austin area claim he preyed on them as well for nearly half a year before he got caught.
Yes, another case of the city saying FU to a civilian doing the city's job, the rape victim finds him and the city goes, oh no that's not your job.
Things have gotten better since Abbott cracked down on the homeless camps and Watson became mayor again.
Wife and I make at least 3 trips a week on the Mopac to Congress loop. 2-3 years ago we couldn't go into the restrooms because the homeless were in there shooting up. Haven't run into this problem lately.
As late as 2 months ago homeless were building there shelters under South First bridge-- now those have been removed . Only saw 1 tent on last night's walk
We feel safe, but we are out of there before sunset.
I did not vote for or against the proposal to reinflate the police budget. A few years ago, we had police patrolling the trail on bikes and 4 wheelers. We had police on a motor boat telling paddle boarders they had to get off the water at sunset. Did not seem like a good use of resources. But pendulums swing to far in either direction.
I feel bad for Texas taxpayers who have to pay for Texas DPS to patrol our streets. Austin should have to reimburse if we asked for this extra service other cities are not receiving
However, I would not live anywhere else. My 4 year old grandson and I park at Specs and ride our ebike along the dedicated bike bridge over Barton springs. Get chicken at Tumble 22, and eat at Walsh Landing looking over the lake. I recommend you try this yourself.
txags92 said:There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
I have stated Austin has issues like every other big city. Don't act like I'm sticking my head in the sand when I admit there are issues….. The police force also has money to make hires. Their budget is bigger than it has ever been.
The homeless issues are significantly better. I don't mind some criticism but when people act like Austin is some lawless hellhole it's annoying.
We own our home just south of Lamar and Rundberg. It's an area that many in Austin would say isn't the nicest or safest. My son plays in the front yard and I feel comfortable letting him ride his bike around the area alone. We are downtown, on the east side, up 183 and around UTs campus after for work/ pleasure/ kids activities.
Going from 400,000 people to over a million in 30 years is wild. Austin has issues to work on but I personally think they have done well considering the rapid and massive growth….
Austin isn't Seattle or Portland or LA…. It's just not
If anyone wants to spend time in austin I would be happy to set a time when we could drive around and chat about the issues the city faces.
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cityagboy said:txags92 said:There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
I have stated Austin has issues like every other big city. Don't act like I'm sticking my head in the sand when I admit there are issues….. The police force also has money to make hires. Their budget is bigger than it has ever been.
The homeless issues are significantly better. I don't mind some criticism but when people act like Austin is some lawless hellhole it's annoying.
We own our home just south of Lamar and Rundberg. It's an area that many in Austin would say isn't the nicest or safest. My son plays in the front yard and I feel comfortable letting him ride his bike around the area alone. We are downtown, on the east side, up 183 and around UTs campus after for work/ pleasure/ kids activities.
Going from 400,000 people to over a million in 30 years is wild. Austin has issues to work on but I personally think they have done well considering the rapid and massive growth….
Austin isn't Seattle or Portland or LA…. It's just not
If anyone wants to spend time in austin I would be happy to set a time when we could drive around and chat about the issues the city faces.
Preach brother!
All these folks want to do is impotently ***** moan and complain about things but have no intention of rolling up their sleeves and doing anything about their complaints. They are better off ignored and banished to 16 but they are relentless and makes this board unusable
Love it when The Fall Guy comes on here and talks out of his ass about what's going on in Austin even though he is too scared to live here and doesn't really know what he's talking about, and then all the other suburbanites who are also scared of big cities blue star his posts and blindly believe whatever he's spouting that day.The Fall Guy said:
The fact of the matter is people have turned a blind eye to crime. As said before nobody will or wants to call the cops. What's the use? Nobody wants to get involved including the cops because they are afraid of getting sued, blamed for something. Why brother? That is unhealthy for society. The citizens that care and want to feel safe are left with a sense of uncertainty for their safety.
None of what you said in the post above is verifiable or based in reality. Get a freaking hobby, dude.
One of the main reasons it won't be Portland or Seattle is that the state surrounding it is red and run by pragmatic people who won't tolerate their state capital being turned in to a ****hole. Portland and Seattle are big enough that they dominate their state's politics as well and there is no brake to slow down the wacky ideas they come up with and the crap they are willing to tolerate. Austin can be weird, but the city leaders know if they go too far down that track, the Governor will step in and cause a course correction.cityagboy said:txags92 said:There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
I have stated Austin has issues like every other big city. Don't act like I'm sticking my head in the sand when I admit there are issues….. The police force also has money to make hires. Their budget is bigger than it has ever been.
The homeless issues are significantly better. I don't mind some criticism but when people act like Austin is some lawless hellhole it's annoying.
We own our home just south of Lamar and Rundberg. It's an area that many in Austin would say isn't the nicest or safest. My son plays in the front yard and I feel comfortable letting him ride his bike around the area alone. We are downtown, on the east side, up 183 and around UTs campus after for work/ pleasure/ kids activities.
Going from 400,000 people to over a million in 30 years is wild. Austin has issues to work on but I personally think they have done well considering the rapid and massive growth….
Austin isn't Seattle or Portland or LA…. It's just not
If anyone wants to spend time in austin I would be happy to set a time when we could drive around and chat about the issues the city faces.
I blame the progressive Austin voters for electing the same city council and Soros DA idiots who are responsible for reducing the police staffing from 1,800 to 1,350 in under 4 years.
Defunding the police 33%, revoking camping bans, canceling cadet classes, rejecting a 4 year police contract and firing the city manager who had negotiated it, and prosecuting officers dealing with encouraged riots sends a clear message.
We may not be at the Portland and Seattle levels yet, but our city council seems hell-bent on getting us there. Please stop voting for these progressive loons.
Defunding the police 33%, revoking camping bans, canceling cadet classes, rejecting a 4 year police contract and firing the city manager who had negotiated it, and prosecuting officers dealing with encouraged riots sends a clear message.
We may not be at the Portland and Seattle levels yet, but our city council seems hell-bent on getting us there. Please stop voting for these progressive loons.
txags92 said:One of the main reasons it won't be Portland or Seattle is that the state surrounding it is red and run by pragmatic people who won't tolerate their state capital being turned in to a ****hole. Portland and Seattle are big enough that they dominate their state's politics as well and there is no brake to slow down the wacky ideas they come up with and the crap they are willing to tolerate. Austin can be weird, but the city leaders know if they go too far down that track, the Governor will step in and cause a course correction.cityagboy said:txags92 said:There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
I have stated Austin has issues like every other big city. Don't act like I'm sticking my head in the sand when I admit there are issues….. The police force also has money to make hires. Their budget is bigger than it has ever been.
The homeless issues are significantly better. I don't mind some criticism but when people act like Austin is some lawless hellhole it's annoying.
We own our home just south of Lamar and Rundberg. It's an area that many in Austin would say isn't the nicest or safest. My son plays in the front yard and I feel comfortable letting him ride his bike around the area alone. We are downtown, on the east side, up 183 and around UTs campus after for work/ pleasure/ kids activities.
Going from 400,000 people to over a million in 30 years is wild. Austin has issues to work on but I personally think they have done well considering the rapid and massive growth….
Austin isn't Seattle or Portland or LA…. It's just not
If anyone wants to spend time in austin I would be happy to set a time when we could drive around and chat about the issues the city faces.
The people of Austin will make sure it's not Portland or Seattle. Austin voted Kirk Watson to be mayor. He is a democrat but he's also very very moderate. The people of austin voted to ban homeless camping which is why it's gotten better. Don't give the governor too much credit. He just spouts off about how austin sucks, which is why many of you feel the way you do. He (not austin) is trying to hurt austin.
Tobias Funke said:Love it when The Fall Guy comes on here and talks out of his ass about what's going on in Austin even though he is too scared to live here and doesn't really know what he's talking about, and then all the other suburbanites who are also scared of big cities blue star his posts and blindly believe whatever he's spouting that day.The Fall Guy said:
The fact of the matter is people have turned a blind eye to crime. As said before nobody will or wants to call the cops. What's the use? Nobody wants to get involved including the cops because they are afraid of getting sued, blamed for something. Why brother? That is unhealthy for society. The citizens that care and want to feel safe are left with a sense of uncertainty for their safety.
None of what you said in the post above is verifiable or based in reality. Get a freaking hobby, dude.
Maybe you need to quit obcessing with me. I didn't start the thread. Lol. I also have not participate much on this thread except state the obvious. I did live in Austin for 12 years.
You know how I know you've never been to Oregon or Washington? Outside of Portland and Seattle, the states are just as rural as Texas. The difference is that they don't have the population that Texas has in their neural areas.
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I blame the progressive Austin voters for electing the same city council and Soros DA idiots who are responsible for reducing the police staffing from 1,800 to 1,350 in under 4 years.
Defunding the police 33%, revoking camping bans, canceling cadet classes, rejecting a 4 year police contract and firing the city manager who had negotiated it, and prosecuting officers dealing with encouraged riots sends a clear message.
We may not be at the Portland and Seattle levels yet, but our city council seems hell-bent on getting us there. Please stop voting for these progressive loons.
Police have all the money back plus MUCH MUCH more than they have ever had
The people of austin voted to put the camping ban back in place
Cadet classes canceled? Yeah but that has become a bigger scapegoat than it should be.
Officers who were prosecuted during riots were those who hurt people who didn't need to be hurt…
Spencer Cronk was fired cause he sucked. He failed on many levels including dealing with the winter storms.
Want to talk about the fake prop B the police just put on the ballot to trick voters about prop A? Shady stuff
Austin has problems but the stuff you are complaining about can largely be explained and is simply rhetoric being pushed from the Texas Capital building
THIS.cityagboy said:txags92 said:One of the main reasons it won't be Portland or Seattle is that the state surrounding it is red and run by pragmatic people who won't tolerate their state capital being turned in to a ****hole. Portland and Seattle are big enough that they dominate their state's politics as well and there is no brake to slow down the wacky ideas they come up with and the crap they are willing to tolerate. Austin can be weird, but the city leaders know if they go too far down that track, the Governor will step in and cause a course correction.cityagboy said:txags92 said:There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Austin appears to be on the path to being Portland. It doesn't mean we aren't acknowledging that it has grown and changed from a funky little central Texas town to a large metropolis. It is possible to like the city and hate the leadership for what they appear to be doing to it. If crime is growing rapidly, you can acknowledge that and talk about what to do about it, or you can stick your head in the sand and say "at least we aren't as bad as Houston" over and over while ignoring the crime issues that often come with rapid growth and a shrinking police force.cityagboy said:
Do some of y'all just sit around a pleasure yourself to talking crap about Austin?
Austin has changed. Austin does have issues that come with being a big city. Austin also has an amazing economy and has gone from 465,000 people in 1990 to 926,000 to 2016 to over a million today and sits as one of the 12 largest cities in the country.
Keep moving the goalposts and do what you need to do to feel better about yourself.
I have stated Austin has issues like every other big city. Don't act like I'm sticking my head in the sand when I admit there are issues….. The police force also has money to make hires. Their budget is bigger than it has ever been.
The homeless issues are significantly better. I don't mind some criticism but when people act like Austin is some lawless hellhole it's annoying.
We own our home just south of Lamar and Rundberg. It's an area that many in Austin would say isn't the nicest or safest. My son plays in the front yard and I feel comfortable letting him ride his bike around the area alone. We are downtown, on the east side, up 183 and around UTs campus after for work/ pleasure/ kids activities.
Going from 400,000 people to over a million in 30 years is wild. Austin has issues to work on but I personally think they have done well considering the rapid and massive growth….
Austin isn't Seattle or Portland or LA…. It's just not
If anyone wants to spend time in austin I would be happy to set a time when we could drive around and chat about the issues the city faces.
The people of Austin will make sure it's not Portland or Seattle. Austin voted Kirk Watson to be mayor. He is a democrat but he's also very very moderate. The people of austin voted to ban homeless camping which is why it's gotten better. Don't give the governor too much credit. He just spouts off about how austin sucks, which is why many of you feel the way you do. He (not austin) is trying to hurt austin.
Austin and its issues, which do exist, is a convenient whipping boy for right wing red meat.
That is exactly what I said. They may be rural and red, but they don't have the population to dominate state government like we have here in Texas. So the politics that elects the leaders of Portland and Seattle also elects most of the state government in those states, whereas the politics that elects Austin leaders is mostly confined to the inner cities in Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. In Texas the rest of the state has enough red population to keep the state government red and not dominated by Austin politics, and they don't have that in Portland or Seattle.Charpie said:
You know how I know you've never been to Oregon or Washington? Outside of Portland and Seattle, the states are just as rural as Texas. The difference is that they don't have the population that Texas has in their neural areas.
The message to law enforcement is still the same from the city council regardless of some corrections.cityagboy said:DD88 said:
I blame the progressive Austin voters for electing the same city council and Soros DA idiots who are responsible for reducing the police staffing from 1,800 to 1,350 in under 4 years.
Defunding the police 33%, revoking camping bans, canceling cadet classes, rejecting a 4 year police contract and firing the city manager who had negotiated it, and prosecuting officers dealing with encouraged riots sends a clear message.
We may not be at the Portland and Seattle levels yet, but our city council seems hell-bent on getting us there. Please stop voting for these progressive loons.
Police have all the money back plus MUCH MUCH more than they have ever had
The people of austin voted to put the camping ban back in place
Cadet classes canceled? Yeah but that has become a bigger scapegoat than it should be.
Officers who were prosecuted during riots were those who hurt people who didn't need to be hurt…
Spencer Cronk was fired cause he sucked. He failed on many levels including dealing with the winter storms.
Want to talk about the fake prop B the police just put on the ballot to trick voters about prop A? Shady stuff
Austin has problems but the stuff you are complaining about can largely be explained and is simply rhetoric being pushed from the Texas Capital building
Having staffing drop from 1,800 to 1,350 is a total failure and the current Prop A which violates state law is yet another attack which will probably reduce it even further.
DD88 said:The message to law enforcement is still the same from the city council regardless of some corrections.cityagboy said:DD88 said:
I blame the progressive Austin voters for electing the same city council and Soros DA idiots who are responsible for reducing the police staffing from 1,800 to 1,350 in under 4 years.
Defunding the police 33%, revoking camping bans, canceling cadet classes, rejecting a 4 year police contract and firing the city manager who had negotiated it, and prosecuting officers dealing with encouraged riots sends a clear message.
We may not be at the Portland and Seattle levels yet, but our city council seems hell-bent on getting us there. Please stop voting for these progressive loons.
Police have all the money back plus MUCH MUCH more than they have ever had
The people of austin voted to put the camping ban back in place
Cadet classes canceled? Yeah but that has become a bigger scapegoat than it should be.
Officers who were prosecuted during riots were those who hurt people who didn't need to be hurt…
Spencer Cronk was fired cause he sucked. He failed on many levels including dealing with the winter storms.
Want to talk about the fake prop B the police just put on the ballot to trick voters about prop A? Shady stuff
Austin has problems but the stuff you are complaining about can largely be explained and is simply rhetoric being pushed from the Texas Capital building
Having staffing drop from 1,800 to 1,350 is a total failure and the current Prop A which violates state law is yet another attack which will probably reduce it even further.
The police have money to make new hires. APD has a crap attitude and never takes any responsibility for their faults. They have broken trust. Prob B is trash and intentionally trying to trick austin voters, another thing to break trust. Prob A is not illegal. Oversight is a good thing, unless you are against accountability.
Please tell me exactly why it is illegal
So why isn't city government fixing that attitude?
BQ78 said:
So why isn't city government fixing that attitude?
The police union and you know that
Prop A is also being voted on to hopefully regain that trust.
And the city has increased the police budgets to the last two years to the most it's ever been. They have the money.
DD88 said:
Having staffing drop from 1,800 to 1,350 is a total failure
I would agree that the protests and funding issues contributed to force reductions but it is disingenuous to point to those as the sole reason. Considering the last three years have been marked by a pandemic, which has resulted in reprioritizations for millions of people staffing issues are widespread.
Restaurants are constantly looking for help, people are retiring in droves across all sectors, and cost-of-living inceases. Texas state agencies are hemorrhaging employees and that has nothing to do with defunding anything. High cost-of-living in Austin and lower salaries compared to private sector contribute to that and the police force would not be immune.
You also can't ignore the multiple excess use-of-force incidents throughout the nation over the last several years which have led to increased tensions between police and the public and likely a concomitant drop in morale amongst officers.
I don't have exit interview data for officers leaving the force but I would bet there are multiple reasons.
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And maybe we love freedom, so we'd prefer underpolicing to over policing
Wish granted bud, enjoy
Chapter 143 which protects personnel files of first responders would be violated by Prop A
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/LG/htm/LG.143.htm
Prop A violates state law and cannot be enforced, according to the City Attorney, a view that has been shared in executive session and in sworn public testimony.
Below is Cleo Petricek's testimony for HB4227 to keep City Councils from attempting to violate that State Law and provides a background of the radical leftists attacks on our police.
And yes Soros has donated $500,000+ to Equity Action, the group pushing Prop A, and his Texas Justice & Public Safety PAC spent $400,000+ supporting Austin DA Jose Garza for election.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/LG/htm/LG.143.htm
Prop A violates state law and cannot be enforced, according to the City Attorney, a view that has been shared in executive session and in sworn public testimony.
https://www.austinpolice.com/ch-143-informationQuote:
The Civilian Review Panel may continue to operate in compliance with state and local law, but it will no longer be allowed to review Internal Affairs files. The panel can exist as a function of the City Manager, but it is restricted on access to non-public information and material protected by law, specifically those regulated by Ch. 143.089(g).
Below is Cleo Petricek's testimony for HB4227 to keep City Councils from attempting to violate that State Law and provides a background of the radical leftists attacks on our police.
My testimony on HB 4227 @GoldmanCraig
— cleo - Austin Latina Mom & MODERATE Democrat (@Cleo_Petricek) April 5, 2023
I discuss my history with Austin Justice Coalition, my advocacy & the importance of bill passage.
video and speech:
My name is Cleo Petricek, I am here in support of House Bill 4227.
I live here in Austin. I’m a mom, former probation… https://t.co/5T4NMlxCwq pic.twitter.com/2Y6iUalJF8
And yes Soros has donated $500,000+ to Equity Action, the group pushing Prop A, and his Texas Justice & Public Safety PAC spent $400,000+ supporting Austin DA Jose Garza for election.
I would be all for that if the DA wasn't actively anti-self defense and willing to break the law to stack the deck against anybody who defends themself against somebody pointing a gun at them. Lack of police is fine if they are willing to let you handle deadly threats for yourself.Keeper of The Spirits said:
And maybe we love freedom, so we'd prefer underpolicing to over policing
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