I love how they spent a ton of time and money not completing the bike lane network we just had to have. No shortage of latest greatest ideas and other people's money. Except this one actually will be set in stone and cost a whole lot more to fix when it's time comes.

So what happens when the "the road is mine" cyclists decide the sidewalk isn't suitable for them and decide to stick to the new super narrow streets? Who's going to be responsible for that accident?

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So what happens when the "the road is mine" cyclists decide the sidewalk isn't suitable for them and decide to stick to the new super narrow streets? Who's going to be responsible for that accident?

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I haven't said anything yet, but I've been thinking all of this over. You've got the people who know that in Texas, bicycles are considered "motor vehicles" and allowed to use the road. You've got the people who don't know or care about any of the laws and think it's fine to ride their bikes against traffic on the shoulder of the road (and on the sidewalks). I've been wondering how all this mess will turn out.

Whoever posted earlier about "traffic calming," I think you're right about that being the intent.

I really hate the medians.

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So what happens when the "the road is mine" cyclists decide the sidewalk isn't suitable for them and decide to stick to the new super narrow streets? Who's going to be responsible for that accident?

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They should be on the street anyway.
It's a sidewalk, not a sidebike.

So zero concern given to getting traffic into and out of downtown.

Sometimes I think the traffic engineers must poll 100 citizens to ask them what their largest concern is. Only so they can find out how to do the opposite.

I don't like all the medians; however, I don't have time to be mad at them because I'm still mad at the change of exit ramps to their current configuration on the Highway 6 bypass.

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So zero concern given to getting traffic into and out of downtown.

Sometimes I think the traffic engineers must poll 100 citizens to ask them what their largest concern is. Only so they can find out how to do the opposite.

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You continue to think your commute is the priority here and that's the real problem. It's not. Pedestrian safety has to be first around city parks.

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That is correct, given the obesity crisis in this country, we need sidewalks as wide as traffic lanes...

In my opinion the businesses that are really thriving in this new age of our median cities is tire stores.


Wife found one last night. I got to change the tire in the rain.

Of course he came out against medians. It would be political suicide to do otherwise.

Please let this be a statewide trend

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/trending/article/houston-avenue-medians-curbs-removed-18646164.php?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral


"These improvements will include the removal of the concrete median and curbs on Houston Avenue that reduced lane capacity and restricted vehicles from turning into properties based on their direction of traffic. The project will effectively restore the roadway to the way it operated previously."

I hate the medians so bad, as someone posted on Texags in the past, If I am ever dying of cancer and have one week to live, I am getting a D11 dozer and from about 2am to sunup, I am going down the middle of Texas Ave from south College Station to north Bryan and then work on the side streets until i get shot and killed.

I would like to see the stats for the past decade on how many accidents and serious injury accidents occurred in the middle lane when there were no medians versus the number of rear end accidents and intersection accidents that occured on the non-middle lanes.

I think about 99% of all accidents that i have passed by in the past decade were not accidents between vehicles in the open middle lane.

Trustworthy source there.

Anyone have any data on cumulative lost revenue for businesses because of this nonsense? I'm sure an individual business owner here and there is all too aware, but I'm curious about overall data on this . Maybe the Chamber of Commerce?

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I hate the medians so bad, as someone posted on Texags in the past, If I am ever dying of cancer and have one week to live, I am getting a D11 dozer and from about 2am to sunup, I am going down the middle of Texas Ave from south College Station to north Bryan and then work on the side streets until i get shot and killed.

I would like to see the stats for the past decade on how many accidents and serious injury accidents occurred in the middle lane when there were no medians versus the number of rear end accidents and intersection accidents that occured on the non-middle lanes.

I think about 99% of all accidents that i have passed by in the past decade were not accidents between vehicles in the open middle lane.

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Sheriffs office said 60% reduction in accidents where medians installed. But hey, let's focus on the part where medians don't fix collisions at traffic lights as proof they don't do any good.

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The reduction could be because people are avoiding certain stores/streets.

correlation vs causation

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woodiewood said:

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I hate the medians so bad, as someone posted on Texags in the past, If I am ever dying of cancer and have one week to live, I am getting a D11 dozer and from about 2am to sunup, I am going down the middle of Texas Ave from south College Station to north Bryan and then work on the side streets until i get shot and killed.

I would like to see the stats for the past decade on how many accidents and serious injury accidents occurred in the middle lane when there were no medians versus the number of rear end accidents and intersection accidents that occured on the non-middle lanes.

I think about 99% of all accidents that i have passed by in the past decade were not accidents between vehicles in the open middle lane.

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Sheriffs office said 60% reduction in accidents where medians installed. But hey, let's focus on the part where medians don't fix collisions at traffic lights as proof they don't do any good.

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The reduction could be because people are avoiding certain stores/streets.

correlation vs causation

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Pretty sure that is still causation. Medians make drivers go elsewhere so less traffic/accidents where the medians are.

Do we have less traffic accidents in BCS overall, or have we just shifted the accidents to other places is a good question though.

Bryan mayor on Infomaniacs this morning said accidents have markedly increased at what he calls suicide turns where medians have been installed. He gave informal stats but I don't want to misquote him.

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Sheriffs office said 60% reduction in accidents where medians installed.

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I don't believe that for even a second.

I have wondered if we are going to see "no U Turn" signs popping up next.

Popping up and ignored. And causing more accidents than open medians with turning access to the blocked off roads.

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In my opinion the businesses that are really thriving in this new age of our median cities is tire stores.


Wife found one last night. I got to change the tire in the rain.

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I told my daughter that she cracked her rim. She said "College Station has a lot of medians".

Rim repair shops are making bank as well.