Don't let this picture fool you. His name is Zeus for a reason.
alvtimes said:
Dogs-yes, shotguns-yes, pistols-yes!
Do you only have 1 tool in your toolbox???
Give yourself options
pistol in a drawer in living room watching tv- sure thing
shotgun in bedroom closet heck ya.
If you are preparing for a home invasion style issue, you never know where you will be in the house when it happens.
If you are making dinner in kitchen when front door gets kicked in and gun is in the bedroom…. you are probably SOL
JeremiahJohnson said:
AR15 is way easier to shoot and aim rapidly than a shotgun.
I have a pistol in my night stand to allow me to get to my AR.
trip98 said:
if you're defending your home, do you really have time to put on armor?
option 1...shotgun....some say go with a pump gun b/c the sound of racking a round can be enough of a deterrent
option 2....pistol...use hollow points
option 3....mean, loud dog
option 4....rifle....smaller projectile designed to go longer distances not ideal for close quarter defense. yes, can be effective, but better options (see above).
I have tinnitus.agsalaska said:
Shoot a 5.56 in an enclosed room and get back to me on best choices.
If you're going to use an AR suppress it. If you don't the subsequent tinnitus that you will deal with every minute of every day for the rest of your life will make you second guess that choice. And anyone who says something stupid like 'I'd rather have my life than blah blah……' has never dealt with tinnitus in any real way.
docb said:
Are we really concerned with hearing loss issues in dealing with an intruder? I mean come on.
AgEng06 said:
Since Bender is here.... let's assume using a suppressed AR platform SBR. What are your thoughts on 5.56 vs 300 BLK, in both subsonic and supersonic? Obviously the subsonic would be quieter, but how does effectiveness/penetration vary between 5.56 and 300 at the different speeds?
John Cocktolstoy said:
Shotgun is all you need, lots of great choices on them too. Don't shoot through walls and ruin your life and someone else's.
agsalaska said:docb said:
Are we really concerned with hearing loss issues in dealing with an intruder? I mean come on.
Says someone who has never dealt with tinnitus.
It is absolutely 100% a real concern for anyone who is not willfully ignorant of the long term consequences of it.
If you can do things to mitigate hearing loss like suppress or use longer barrels or subsonic ammo or whatever then do it.
A couple of shots out of a 10.5inch AR in an enclosed room has the real possibility of ruining your quality of life. Why do that when you could use something else that is also effective.
Rockdoc said:agsalaska said:docb said:
Are we really concerned with hearing loss issues in dealing with an intruder? I mean come on.
Says someone who has never dealt with tinnitus.
It is absolutely 100% a real concern for anyone who is not willfully ignorant of the long term consequences of it.
If you can do things to mitigate hearing loss like suppress or use longer barrels or subsonic ammo or whatever then do it.
A couple of shots out of a 10.5inch AR in an enclosed room has the real possibility of ruining your quality of life. Why do that when you could use something else that is also effective.
Exactly. I have tinnitus so severely the ringing masks what else is going on in the house. If I fire a shot without ear pro then I'm done for. The intruder could be standing right behind me and I wouldn't know it. When I put on electronic ear pro with the sound cranked up, I can hear everything going on in the house and the ringing seems diminished. I'm not getting up with or without gun to check on something without it.
agsalaska said:
Using an AR pistols for HD without a can is the dumbest thing someone could possibly do.
BenderRodriguez said:agsalaska said:
Using an AR pistols for HD without a can is the dumbest thing someone could possibly do.
Okay. I havent seen anyone in this thread recommending that.
There are multiple posters claiming shotguns dont need be aimed and dont overpenetrate, but I guess keep attacking your hypothetical strawman argument. You're beating the hell of your imaginary opponent.
JeremiahJohnson said:
There is a dog just like him in my neighborhood that always tries to get after my Rhodesian Ridgeback. I thought it was him for a sec, but saw you are not in CS. If he ever lets go of that leash, it is not going to be a fun day for either of us.