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Burn-It
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We bought a place a year+ ago that includes a 1 acre stock pond with a rotten fishing dock. I tore out the old dock structure but the pilings are beyond in bad bad shape. Any recommendations from the OB for a good resource who can remove 12 old pilings & pound 15 new pilings would be very much appreciated. Quotes I've gotten have been ridiculous. I can handle adding the dock build-out on the new pilings. Location is a few miles south of College Station.

Much appreciation in advance.

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Belton Ag
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I'm not sure what you define as ridiculous but that is a very expensive job to have done.
CS78
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Mind sharing a ballpark of your quotes?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Might look into a floating dock.
Burn-It
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Anywhere from $15-32k
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Burn-It
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I'm ok with a floating dock, just need the pilings out. I've looked into an excavator with a long enough reach to get the outer pilings. Just hoping to get a better option that has experience with this.
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Sgt. Hartman
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Tannerite would turn those things into toothpicks
Animal Eight 84
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Step by step how I built mine by myself.

I had a 16 ft John boat as a working platform.
Did all posts & framing on a Labor Day 4 day weekend all in 3-4 foot of water. Finished wiring and decking on a following weekend.

5 feet wide, 40 feet long, 8 x 16 at the end.


1. I set tee posts at corners and ran twine between them to have a straight line for posts.

2. I used a pressure washer to jet a hole and then set each post. I poured buckets of sand around the posts to set them. Went really fast.

Posts were taller than needed and were later cut to height with a chainsaw.

3. Leveled posts to string line and screwed on 2x6 cross joists to posts.. Placed long floor joists on top of cross joists. Cut posts to length even with top of floor joists. Used a piece of plywood as a temporary floor.

4. Installed conduit & wire for 120VAC for lights.

5. Cut 16 foot synthetic lumber ( choice deck) into 5' 4 " pieces and screwed to floor joists.

6. Popped a chalk line and trimmed decking so overhanging was about 1.5 inches, nice and straight.
Burn-It
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& my bass & bluegills
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JP76
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How deep is the water where you want to build it ?
SanAntoneAg
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Burn-It said:

I'm ok with a floating dock, just need the pilings out. I've looked into an excavator with a long enough reach to get the outer pilings. Just hoping to get a better option that has experience with this.


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Burn-It
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Starts at 0, basically mudline, old dock ran out 20' at 12' deep when the pond was full, trying to stay close to a 12x20, maybe 12x24 dock.
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Shoefly!
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Burn-It said:

I'm ok with a floating dock, just need the pilings out. I've looked into an excavator with a long enough reach to get the outer pilings. Just hoping to get a better option that has experience with this.

Oilfield winch truck with their jacks down. We pulled out some huge mesquite and oak trees with it. It was fun to watch too. See what a company would charge for a day. It use be around $700.00 at the time.
Cherry picker with a strap and shackles.
rather be fishing
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I deal a lot with docks, granted it's in Montana. But, what is working best is 2" pipe helical screws for an anchor platform on the bank, and the duck attached to that.

That may not be what you're looking for, but up here, where ducks have to be removed at the end of the summer, it's the way to go.

I have seen steel frame docks and modular style docks attached to that platform and both work great.

Docks have to be removed up here because ice and river flow will tear them apart. On a stock tank, you may be better off just driving some piers, but I think you could see some cost savings in going with an anchor platform on the bank, as opposed to getting someone to drive piers in the water.
Shoefly!
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How deep did you jet the holes, the length of the wand?
What size were your post? 6X, 8X?
trip98
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Why do you have to remove the old dock?
Great structure for fish
cslifer
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We built ours almost exactly like Animal listed above. We used a trash pump and rigged up a pvc "drill stem" to reach the bottom. Of course we were only in about 6 feet of water, if OP is in 12 feet of water those are going to be some pretty dang long pieces of lumber.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Might need a jet to get 'em out due to mud suction. Another option is use a shore based winch to break off below the waterline.
AG81xx
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Love my floating dock from Pond King. Aggie owned company in North Texas but they will deliver pretty far distance.
Senator Blutarski
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Cut them at the water line then build a new one with a larger footprint?
Mas89
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Wow, that old dock was well built with long bolts, metal plates,and even metal caps on top of the pilings.
You could get the old pilings out with a big track hoe and straps or big chains. I'll guess you will need at least a 50,000lb machine such as a deere200 or cat 320.
IslandAg76
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https://www.americanpoleandtimber.com/markets/marine-projects/snapjacket-piling-repair/?keyword=snapjacket&creative=644726237757&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwiaa2BhAiEiwAQBgyHrjJvAPq5-cQWwFAsR0FD84YONmepV1YyX_FvsEv3O6B5ueZRPQidxoCuE8QAvD_BwE
trip98
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I'd cut at the water line and let the debris provide structure if you absolutely want it gone

buy floating dock

and then in years of drought if you want go cut the old pilings down even more

fish win
you save money
much easier
smstork1007
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Pneumatic chain saw for the win, never used one, but looks like fun. And as others said, i'd just cut with that below surface as low as you could go without scuba gear, then install a floating dock.
Burn-It
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I like the cherry picker idea, wrap the piles below the water line with a strap & lift straight up.
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Aggie Hunter
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My buddy does this type of work. Message me your number and I will get y'all in touch.
Burn-It
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PM sent
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Animal Eight 84
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Shoefly! said:

How deep did you jet the holes, the length of the wand?
What size were your post? 6X, 8X?


Holes are about 20 to 24" deep. Standard wand length (24"?).
6" tops on posts. 8 feet tall.
I caught the lake low at end of summer so deepest spot was shirt pocket deep. Majority was only waist deep. Normally about 6 feet at the end of the dock.
Ranch Dressing
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Shoefly! said:

How deep did you jet the holes, the length of the wand?
What size were your post? 6X, 8X?


I was thinking the same thing. Leave the piles in place, put in a floating dock and call it a day.
“Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."

-Matthew 6:34
JFABNRGR
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Wrap chain around bottom of pile so it bites, then try dragging them up with tractor or 4x4 on the bank. They will probably slide up & out.

Like others said your losing good fish structure.

We have an excavator that drives piles. Would likely cost us 3K to move it one way to BCS from dallas area.
Animal Eight 84
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Animal Eight 84 said:

Step by step how I built mine by myself.

I had a 16 ft John boat as a working platform.
Did all posts & framing on a Labor Day 4 day weekend all in 3-4 foot of water. Finished wiring and decking on a following weekend.

5 feet wide, 40 feet long, 8 x 16 at the end.


1. I set tee posts at corners and ran twine between them to have a straight line for posts.

2. I used a pressure washer to jet a hole and then set each post. I poured buckets of sand around the posts to set them. Went really fast.

Posts were taller than needed and were later cut to height with a chainsaw.

3. Leveled posts to string line and screwed on 2x6 cross joists to posts.. Placed long floor joists on top of cross joists. Cut posts to length even with top of floor joists. Used a piece of plywood as a temporary floor.

4. Installed conduit & wire for 120VAC for lights.

5. Cut 16 foot synthetic lumber ( choice deck) into 5' 4 " pieces and screwed to floor joists.

6. Popped a chalk line and trimmed decking so overhanging was about 1.5 inches, nice and straight.


Photo from drought shows framing.
Lake at full capacity touches bottom of 2x6 joists so easy to get into a boat from the dock.

FYI I planted those cypress in 1991, paid 50 cents apiece for a bundle of 100. Size of pencils.




RGV AG
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I don't know if this will make sense to you or not, but I will give it a whirl. I rebuilt a large portion of my docks, saltwater mind you, on the main channel in Port Isabel. Getting anyone to do the work at all down there is rough.

What I did was get pieces of of hard plastic water/sewer/culvert drainage pipe. What I got was kinda like the link below. I went to a local place that sold large sections of this kinda of stuff and in talking to them they ended giving me several scrap pieces that they had laying around as they were happy to be rid of it. The stuff I got was stiffer than what I am linking.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/culvert-hdpe-18-in-x-20-ft-hdpe-1820

I then used SCUBA to get in and attach chains to the old pilings and with a comealong along pulled them out. On some of them I had to jet around them to loosen them up. The way I jetted was I used SCUBA tanks with weights strapped to them and would go down and turn those tank nozzles right where I needed to blow the bottom out. It took me about 4 or 5 tanks to do about 7 or 8, 8" old wooden pilings.

I then cut pieces of the pipe I had gotten, I used a saws all and cut it with an angled point at the bottom. Again on SCUBA I jetted these in while working them down into the bottom, I probably went in 10-12" below the bottoms surface. I then cut the pipes sticking above the surface somewhat evenly with a sawsall.

After that I got treated 4X4"'s and 6X6"s and cut a point on them, I want to say I used 8' ones on the deep part and 6' on the ones closer to the bulk head (where I used the 4X4's). I forced these down in the center of the plastic sections of pipe using a sledge, probably drove them down 2-3' into the bottom. Once I had them all in I ran a level line and squared them up and cut them off. I anchored/leveled the wood pilings, to the sides of the plastic pipes with fishing line.

I then orrdered a concrete mix, I forget what kind but was told it would work and set inside the pipes and to the wood (and it did). I filled the first pilings one Saturday, and then mid week build the dock out. The next Saturday I did the rest and the end of the dock. About 3 or 4 yards of concrete.

Obviously I am omitting a lot of details and minor problems and glitches that came up, but it wasn't hard at all just took time and planning and lots of barnacle scrapes. I have since helped a neighbor replace some in the same fashion.

Given that you are in fresh water I am not sure if you have wood worms or not. If you don't, I think you could drive some 6" PVC pieces in and put a treated 4X4" inside them and drive it in with a sledge. It took some time driving it in as you can't hit the wood directly, you have to use a thick shim.

Importantly a key part of this is to loosed the area up where the pilings/4x4's and such will go with pressure. I am sure a pressure washer will work, but I had SCUBA tanks and that air pressure when applied directly cuts a hole like a knife.

All in cost, and this was about 15 years ago, was about $1,500 or so. I have access to free SCUBA stuff so that made is simpler. The quotes I had gotten back then for removal and re-driving pilings was like $8,000 and Lord knows when it might have ever been done. Dock is still holding fine today and has been through 2 hurricanes, one pretty substantial.
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Pump the pond 3-4 feet lower than normal pool level and then cut them off and leave them for fish cover. Then build a floating dock over the top.

OR

Rent a decent size track hoe and yank them out. Any machine that can grub out a mesquite can handle those pilings.
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JFABNRGR said:

Wrap chain around bottom of pile so it bites, then try dragging them up with tractor or 4x4 on the bank. They will probably slide up & out.

Like others said your losing good fish structure.

We have an excavator that drives piles. Would likely cost us 3K to move it one way to BCS from dallas area.
My first thought was to use a chain and a tractor. I have pulled some massive stumps over the years.
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Burn-It said:

I like the cherry picker idea, wrap the piles below the water line with a strap & lift straight up.
Cherry picker/JLG lift isn't designed to lift materials, only people. Don't use it to try to pull pilings out of mud and water or you'll be fishing a lift out of the water as well.
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