Reports I've seen said they hold together at slower velocities and expand at speeds down to 1600fps. Planning on attempting a 1000 yard hog shot with my 6.5 PRC in February at a buddies place. Maybe I can test it out.

As was said several times on this thread, shot placement is the most important factor. I found my perfect whitetail deer rifle almost 60 years ago and have shot it every since. A Remington Model 788 semi-bull barrel in 22-250 with 55 gr. Sierra Boat tails hand loaded to 3100 fps. That combo has taken over 300 deer through the years, maybe more, I lost count a long time ago. Longest kill was 305 yards and probably only 15 or so two shot kills in all that time. All the rest were DOA with a high neck shot. To this day that rifle with shoot 1/2" groups. So lesson I learned was get the shot right, get the game. Rifle caliber not so important, it is your shooting skill that counts.

Dunno bout the X. But the ELDM from a short barrel (18"), suppressed 6.5 is ploddingly slow and an absolute hammer on game of all sizes.

I can tell you that an aoudad at 500+ folds with 143gr ELD-X. I have it made a shot at 1,000 on an animal yet but hope to change that shortly

Nice! Is that with a creed? Seems like the ELD excels at long range

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257 Bob, eh? You really do like the classics.

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I do. I had two but sold one on here a few months ago. The one I kept is a Ruger No.1. I have killed a lot of deer very dead with it.

I have retired from pulling the trigger. My kids shoot them all now.

Yes. I'm eyeing a PRC but don't have done yet. Agree that the bullet seems more lethal the farther away you are

A lot of the recovered photos I've seen show ~50-60% weight retention down to ~1900 fps. I think they still fragment quite a bit even at distances longer than most people take animals.

Interesting. I might be able to pull off a hog feeder at 500-750yards at our land. Would be fun to test.

Have a friend with a for sure mile long right of way that I can shoot out to over 1000. Headed there for a hog competition on February.

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Dunno bout the X. But the ELDM from a short barrel (18"), suppressed 6.5 is ploddingly slow and an absolute hammer on game of all sizes.

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Factory hornady match was only 2650 out of my stock 24" Tikka barrel. Didn't matter, still works.

I'll be going back to 147gr ELDMs after my supply of 156gr bergers is exhausted. Once my 6.5-284 barrel is shot out, my Tikka will get rebarreled to a 6mm creedmoor. Probably shoot 108 ELDM or nosering 115 DTACs with it. I'll see if I can get a moose tag and blow the collective minds of texags.

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I do. I had two but sold one on here a few months ago. The one I kept is a Ruger No.1. I have killed a lot of deer very dead with it.

I have retired from pulling the trigger. My kids shoot them all now.

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Nice!

Occasionally I have a drink or two and look at lever guns and Ruger No. 1s. I'll stick with my carbon stocked soulless rifle for the time being

Did kill a few pigs with my 6 dasher with 105 Berger Hybrids. They were around 3000fps. DRT but I was neck shooting.

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Never owned one and wouldn't even know where to begin.


That being said, I said earlier that if I ever bought another rifle it would be a 6.5 Creed. I actually would probably get a 6 creed. Just have to find one with a blued barrel and a wood stock.


You would enjoy the Vortex Nation Podcast. Those guys are obsessed with modern bullet design and technology. I highly highly recommend them.

This is them with Hornady. In fact everyone who has commented on this thread would be better off after listening to this one.

My son has used a 6.5 Grendel to kill 3 animals so far this year. 2 pigs in the shoulder. One dropped and one ran about 40 yards. He also shot a nice cull 8. He shot the buck a little high in the shoulder and it dropped right there. I know they aren't hunting bullets, but everything was shot with 123 ELD-M handloads.

Loved this thread. Think everyone should read this.

With you on that Gunny. Have been using a 6.5 X 55 swedish mauser, with a sporterized wood stock for years. Nosler partition 140 grain reloads, not too hot, as I don't know how old it is. Rifle is so accurate it's scary,

Hard to beat a .257, I have a Remington 700 long action in 257 roberts, a custom Remington 700 in 25-06 and a weatherby vanguard in 257 weatherby. My love and the effectiveness of my .257's contributed to me selling 6.5cm. Though the 130gr TSX's I was pushing 2900fps outta my old 6.5cm destroyed everything I ever shot with them it is an effective round especially when handloaded!

The reason I got rid of my Rem 760 in .257 Roberts is I don't reload and don't have enough ammo for two guns for the rest of my shooting days. I have plenty for one but not two, especially a 760 which is easy to run through a bunch of ammo with. They do still make .257 Roberts but it is limited production and expensive.

I should reload. Actually I shouldnt. But I should.

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This will save you the trouble for next time.

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You switch the round name on the Green and Gold box with 25-06, 6mm Rem, .243, 7mm Mag, 22-250, on al at nauseum. It just does the job.

And for those that think that the Remington Core Lokt is not "high end" enough, I have a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight chambered in 25-06 (bought about 5 years ago, new) that after sighted in at 100yds, that in the last 5 shots, 4 were completely covered by a nickel and the 5th outlier was half covered by the same nickel. Almost one ragged hole. That is with the 120 grain load.

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My academy was stocked!!

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30 bucks for core lokts?????

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I'm betting the 6.5 C ammo was Hornady performance hunter eld-X. Watch some YouTube videos. They've found that to be very inconsistent velocity wise. Also as mentioned the ELD-X is poor bullet choice for most Texas distances. 200 and under.

Try Federal Fusion. Nosler Accubond is good for heavier game.

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Going to have to disagree with this. My kids shoot 6.5cm with eldx. So far they have killed 3 texas white tail. All 3 under 100 yards. All three took 0 steps and fell over dead. 1 heart shot involving neither shoulder. The other 2 double lung taking out 1 or both shoulders

These kinds of threads are why this is the best board on Texags. Getting ready to dust off my ol 270 and head to the woods after Christmas. Time to fill the freezer

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My academy was stocked!!

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30 bucks for core lokts?????

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Its Bidenomics.

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These kinds of threads are why this is the best board on Texags. Getting ready to dust off my ol 270 and head to the woods after Christmas. Time to fill the freezer

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According to this thread, good thing you have a .270 and not a 6.5, or you would be going hungry this winter.

I can greatly agree. Mine has been my .220 Swift. It's all about putting the bullet in stuff that causes the animal to die quick.

My grandfather was German and won a "Shutzenfest" they held up by Rebecca Creek Crossing by the old little town called Smithsons Valley. The prize was a Savage Model 1899 in the catridge of Savage .250-3000.
It was touted to push the .25 cal bullet 3000 ft./sec. Quite a novelty then. The year was 1915. Just before he headed to France in WWI.
He left it to me when he passed. Once a year I still hunt with it and still kill deer with it if I see one.

Great story there Gunny

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My grandfather was German and won a "Shutzenfest" they held up by Rebecca Creek Crossing by the old little town called Smithsons Valley. The prize was a Savage Model 1899 in the catridge of Savage .250-3000.
It was touted to push the .25 cal bullet 3000 ft./sec. Quite a novelty then. The year was 1915. Just before he headed to France in WWI.
He left it to me when he passed. Once a year I still hunt with it and still kill deer with it if I see one.

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"Shutzenfest" reminded me of my "Schutzenschnur".

Sir. That is outstanding! Story.. gotta tell us!

"Shutzenfest" and"Schutzenschnur" are when Belsnickle comes to decide if you are impish or admirable. Historically, a 6.5 Creedmoor was given to impish children as a way to punish them by making their food harvesting capabilities more challenging.

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Sir. That is outstanding! Story.. gotta tell us!

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Stationed at Ramstein '06 and rented a loft above the Bierwagen family, whose patriarch was an Oberstabsfeldswebel in the Bundeswehr.

We made fast friends and he began introducing me to his people. We made schnapps together, searched for old munitions at his farm, and he even took me on a few drives with the local Jaegermeister. The deer and pigs were served by the village hunting club at the Miesenbach Christmas festival.

After awhile he invited me to join his troops on a marksmanship qualification day and after permissions from my CO's, I went.. and dominated! Their best shooters were pretty salty with me after it was over and petitioned hard against awarding me a gold Schutzensnur, but my boy Rolf stood up for me and pinned it on me.

The US & Germans have a formal thing now where they shoot with us and us with them and many more US service members have received the award. Rolf said I may not have been the first to get one, but was the first gold he'd heard of. My CO ran it up the chain and I even got permission to sport it on my blues when worn in Deutschland.

Bullet placement
Bullet velocity
Bullet construction
Bullet weight

Doesn't matter what fires it. These are the factors

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My grandfather was German and won a "Shutzenfest" they held up by Rebecca Creek Crossing by the old little town called Smithsons Valley. The prize was a Savage Model 1899 in the catridge of Savage .250-3000.
It was touted to push the .25 cal bullet 3000 ft./sec. Quite a novelty then. The year was 1915. Just before he headed to France in WWI.
He left it to me when he passed. Once a year I still hunt with it and still kill deer with it if I see one.

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Back when I was a much younger man, my ride would be parked at the Rebecca Creek crossing springtime Saturdays. I'd be downstream on foot from said crossing, stringing up white bass.

Based on info from your prior posts, there is a good chance I may have been trespassing on your family land.

I'm curious, what is wrong with the tried and true 30-06, 7mm or. 270?

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I'm curious, what is wrong with the tried and true 30-06, 7mm or. 270?

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Why be curious about something that was never called into question here?