zooguy96 said:

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Lantana is alright, But they don't survive freezes.

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Native lantana is a perennial that will regrow. The native horrida only blooms on new growth wood and should be pruned annually anyway.

Purchased.

longeryak said:

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Badace52 said:

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I have several antelope horns and zizotes milkweeds that have popped up in my flower beds naturally which I let grow every year and try to spread in the beds. I wanted to try and get some Texas milkweed and showy milkweed and maybe a few other varieties and do a whole milkweed tiered section next to my Gregg's mistflower.

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Good thing you're in medicine cause that science background will help a lot with Jill Nokes' book that seems to be up your alley. https://www.amazon.com/Grow-Native-Plants-Texas-Southwest/dp/0292755732

Ouch on price. I didn't know it hasn't been printed in 20 years. Even used places are running $75.

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Just dug my copy up and there isn't a single thing on propagating any member of the asclepius family.

longeryak said:

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zooguy96 said:

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Lantana is alright, But they don't survive freezes.

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Native lantana is a perennial that will regrow.

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New Gold specifically is designated a Texas Superstar. I really like it because it doesn't drop as many seeds or spread as much as some of the other varieties.

And just in case some of you are not familiar, here site listing the designated Superstars:
https://texassuperstar.com/plants/index.html

Badace52 said:

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citizenkane06 said:

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If you don't mind deciduous plants, be sure to put in some milkweed for the monarchs like Green milkweed, Butterfly milkweed, and showy milkweed.

Additionally, classics like black-eyed Susan and Lanceleaf coreopsis are always winners. You might want to add Missouri ironweed, Gregg's mistflower, and Purple passionflower if a vine will work, but know that they spread.

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Where do you get native varieties of milkweed? I have had trouble finding them except at one very specialized grower that you have to make an appointment with to go see. Most of what you see is that damn tropical milkweed.

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I go to nurseries that specialize in native plants like Buchanan's or Enchanted Gardens outside Houston, but the best options are public institution plant sales like The Houston Arboretum or Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center.

Its a cool looking variety, but its a genetic monster. some kind of hybrid between tropical lantanas and the creeping south American yellow species.

I've tried Lady Bird Johnson before and seems like they sell mostly stuff you can get elsewhere.

Meh... still gonna be useful for me, I'm always trying to find new native shrubs and small trees to plant.

RED AG 98 said:

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longeryak said:

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zooguy96 said:

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Lantana is alright, But they don't survive freezes.

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Native lantana is a perennial that will regrow.

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New Gold specifically is designated a Texas Superstar. I really like it because it doesn't drop as many seeds or spread as much as some of the other varieties.

And just in case some of you are not familiar, here site listing the designated Superstars:
https://texassuperstar.com/plants/index.html

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That doesn't mean it is a native plant.

Another strong consideration is whether this garden will be publicly viewed or whether you're in an HOA. It's a massive pain dealing with people that have never seen native plants and want all properties to look like English hedgerows.

I recently found some native snapdragon vine near my house. Anyone have experience propagating that one?

We have an HOA and it will be in view of the public, but they can suck my balls.

Badace52 said:

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Meh... still gonna be useful for me, I'm always trying to find new native shrubs and small trees to plant.

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Cool. It sounded like that might be a hobby interest for you.

That's my sentiment, as well, but they can do things like turn you in to the County Environmental Services for "attracting mosquitoes or vermin", for which of course they'll want to fine you.

My suggestion would be to have it look as formal as possible and mix in the native plants.

Badace52 said:

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I recently found some native snapdragon vine near my house. Anyone have experience propagating that one?

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Vine? Snapdragon in Texas is usually the bush form cenizo(bush sage) but Jill's book has snapdragons pages 335-340.

citizenkane06 said:

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That's my sentiment, as well, but they can do things like turn you in to the County Environmental Services for "attracting mosquitoes or vermin", for which of course they'll want to fine you.

My suggestion would be to have it look as formal as possible and mix in the native plants.

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In my experience when you return the natives plants and biodiversity you also give the native predators habit and the mosquitoes and vermin go way down.

I collected some seeds while in Terlingua and to my surprise, I already have 3-4 of these popping up.

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/lechuguilla/

longeryak said:

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citizenkane06 said:

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That's my sentiment, as well, but they can do things like turn you in to the County Environmental Services for "attracting mosquitoes or vermin", for which of course they'll want to fine you.

My suggestion would be to have it look as formal as possible and mix in the native plants.

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In my experience when you return the natives plants and biodiversity you also give the native predators habit and the mosquitoes and vermin go way down.

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You're right, but the people levying these sorts of charges don't care. Just try to formalize the garden a bit and hope people aren't too big of a pain.

longeryak said:

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Badace52 said:

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I recently found some native snapdragon vine near my house. Anyone have experience propagating that one?

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Vine? Snapdragon in Texas is usually the bush form cenizo(bush sage) but Jill's book has snapdragons pages 335-340.

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https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=maan9

This guy...

Good luck to them then. I try to make things look nice anyway, but they are gonna lose if I'm planting native plants on my property.

Oh yes I agree and didn't mean to insinuate otherwise. I just like that is doesn't produce berries like the others. Mine did survive the freeze and 2-3 feet of snow drift and I am very happy with them.

If you're ever in the south or west Houston area, I'd be happy to give you some Showy milkweed, Butterfly milkweed, Zizotes milkweed, or Swamp milkweed. It's kind of a hobby of mine to raise it. Just give me some lead time.

I gathered a bunch of Antelope Horns milkweed seeds a month or two ago with hopes of growing them....
then read an article on how they have to be soaked in water, put in the fridge for umpteen days, etc etc and said to hell with it. Spread them in a disturbed area, lightly raked some soil over them & wished them luck.

Regarding Lechugilla, that stuff forms big clumps that can really be a pain to deal with. Like 10'x10' areas, so be careful & keep it under control or you'll have a PITA area that requires some real work to get ride of.

That artificial stratification process you describe is just mimicking nature. If you're not in any hurry to germinate them, you did the right thing: sow them before winter and see what pops up in the spring.

I'm a big fan of lantana. It survived the freeze just fine for me.

It freezes back every winter and you just hack it back to the ground and it comes back every year.

I have deer and they have never touched it.

Yep. I've had good luck doing that with many other species.

Badace52 said:

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We have an HOA and it will be in view of the public, but they can suck my balls.

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Wow! Why did you move to a subdivision with an HOA?

I have a wife...