shiftyandquick said:

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When you think about this way, which seems more likely?

1. the perfect disappearance, no trace
2. the perfect crime, with no evidence left
3. incomplete search

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Occam's Razor says 3

I don't think it had to be the "perfect crime" and there was most certainly evidence left.

I saw "I Almost Got Away With It" on Investigation Discovery. Prison escapee rubbed garlic on his shoes and it threw off the dogs! LOL.

Regarding the dogs, do not put a lot of faith in the dogs. They can be awesome, but I have been involved with a lot of searches that have had wtf moments with normally great dogs. I've seen dogs not pick up a trail while staring at known tracks. I've seen a TDCJ bloodhound on a hot trail through a pasture, hit a fence in the middle of a pasture, and then absolutely nothing.

I was involved with 3 searches that volunteers and Leo had "searched", including dogs, and found the victim within 100 yards of the PLS. In one case, before we even started the search (6 months after the victim went missing), one of our 60 yo guys walked about 60 yard down the dirt road, stepped off the road to piss and found the dude. This was literally 60 yards from where the dude's car was found.

According to dad's church Facebook page, new group set up.
https://www.facebook.com/FindJasonLandry/


This is one of the posts:

Praying he is found TODAY!! Someone knows something and needs to please speak up. To Jason's parents if you're reading this- one of Jason's "friends" was commenting on a YouTube channel saying Jason was acting weird the week prior to his disappearance and kept talking about the rapture coming. He said that Jason had made a comment, "If the aliens don't get me first, the government will". Obviously, I don't know how accurate this is or if this "friend" is truly his friend or just seeking attention. Also, I've read a few people talking about him potentially joining the church of wells. Might be something to at least look into. Don't give up everyone- he's out there somewhere waiting for help.

I bet he had a plan set up to disappear. Knew where the pond was, walked to it and back to the road (no scent past the tank), changed clothes and got in a different car and left with someone he had been talking to on Snapchat. The perfect escape.

Dayum. Giddings has a bit of a criminal mentality to him.

giddings_ag_06 said:

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I bet he had a plan set up to disappear. Knew where the pond was, walked to it and back to the road (no scent past the tank), changed clothes and got in a different car and left with someone he had been talking to on Snapchat. The perfect escape.

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Some of y'all are gonna be real disappointed when this ends.
Ursus is on the right track as far as I'm concerned. Kids body is nearby somewhere and there are gonna be some pissed folks when they find it.

SPF250 said:

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Dayum. Giddings has a bit of a criminal mentality to him.

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The only thing criminal about Giddings is his lack of goin' live success!!

No one will be "pissed" or "disappointed". A college kid is missing and possibly dead. With a cold trail to find him, what does it hurt for posters to throw out wild ideas that haven't been thought of before? You never know what may turn something up in the case. And in all seriousness, with the use of Google Earth and knowing that dogs are still often used in missing persons cases like this, it's not that crazy of an idea.

You don't think people will be pissed when his body is found in an area that have already been searched?
I'll have what you're having.

SWC Ag said:

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You don't think people will be pissed when his body is found in an area that have already been searched?
I'll have what you're having.

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No one will be pissed. They'll be relieved. And if that ends up being the case, he was dead when the area was first searched.

ursusguy said:

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Regarding the dogs, do not put a lot of faith in the dogs. They can be awesome, but I have been involved with a lot of searches that have had wtf moments with normally great dogs. I've seen dogs not pick up a trail while staring at known tracks. I've seen a TDCJ bloodhound on a hot trail through a pasture, hit a fence in the middle of a pasture, and then absolutely nothing.

I was involved with 3 searches that volunteers and Leo had "searched", including dogs, and found the victim within 100 yards of the PLS. In one case, before we even started the search (6 months after the victim went missing), one of our 60 yo guys walked about 60 yard down the dirt road, stepped off the road to piss and found the dude. This was literally 60 yards from where the dude's car was found.

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Dang, maybe there's overlap between a good place to piss and a good place to die. I'll file that nugget.

Pissed =/= relieved

And I'm getting everything.

I've lost a deer tracking it before and found it the next day. It had been picked at by coyotes, coons, foxes, etc... and the meat was lost. I was relieved to find it though as it was my best deer (and still is) and I was able to get it mounted. Not every situation should piss you off. If it does, take anger management.

Come on people. Don't get this thread locked too!

I was a LEO for 37 years. My thoughts, based on my experience with these type of circumstances, are this:

Unless a body is found we will never know exactly what happened. The time for finding him alive has probably expired. I would bet that law enforcement officials, unless they have some other information or evidence they are not sharing, are about as far as they can go with this but will continue to carry on with the investigation with the hope that a lead will develop. In time, with nothing further to go on, this will go on a back burner. Open for investigation but nothing current.

During the first few days of the search law enforcement were looking at numerous possibilities. You can bet that they, and the persons involved in the search, were looking for buzzards circling. Buzzards are a sure sign that a animal/mammal has died or is dying. Without that though I would think that Jason, disoriented and probably beginning to suffer from exposure or hypothermia, attempted to find shelter under a log, cedar bush, outbuilding, something. Even personnel trained in grid searches can miss something or make a mistake.

I hope this story has a happy ending but I doubt that it will. His remains will probably be found one day by a hunter or someone cutting firewood. It's a sad story to be sure.

I think it is set up by him and a accomplice. I think when the fun stops, money runs dry, cult becomes a burden...he will show back up. I hope for his parents this is the case.

I highly doubt this was some elaborate scheme to disappear. Judging by his picture that was in the article, the contents of his backpack (laptop, gaming equipment, etc.), and the marijuana, he's just a goofy pothead who was on his way home for the holidays (probably stoned) and missed his turn because he was distracted. And someone trying to disappear wouldn't strip down naked in the middle of nowhere and leave their clothes and a backpack full of personal belongings behind.

A few things that I feel after reading through the articles and this thread:

1. I don't think the fact that he left to drive home at 11pm on a Sunday night means anything. Maybe he worked on Sunday. Or maybe he's a night owl (pot smoking gamer) and he'd rather drive home at night than the middle of the day.

2. It sounds like he got distracted by snapchat and missed his turn in Luling. I don't think he turned off Waze as a way of throwing the authorities off the trail. He probably just accidentally closed it while he was trying to switch to snapchat. It seems weird that he would continue along that road that eventually turned to dirt. But if he was stoned then maybe it didn't even register with him that he was going the wrong way.

3. He could have sustained a head injury when he wrecked his car and that, combined with the drugs in his system, could explain why he took off walking and stripped all of his clothes off in the middle of the road. I've heard that people with hypothermia will take their clothes off as their state progresses. I doubt he became hypothermic that quickly but it is something to note.

4. No idea why his trail led the dogs to a nearby pond and stopped. But we have to remember that dogs are animals and they're not perfect. Nobody knows what the dog was following or why the trail went cold.

5. I won't speculate on the possibility of foul play. Unless I missed something, it sounds like there is zero evidence of that. There definitely *could* have been foul play but there's nothing to suggest it. A few on here have thrown out the possibility of a drug deal gone bad but I don't think this kid was into that side of pot. It sounds like he was just a recreational user.

I really hope this is solved so the family either gets their son back or has closure about what happened. It's been a month and a half so he's likely dead. My theory is: head injury from the crash, started walking down the road (not in his right mind OR paranoia from the marijuana), stripped off his clothes for unknown reason, wandered off into the woods and died (maybe from exposure), searches failed to find the body.

Father seems like a great guy. Maybe even amazing. You can tell how disappointed he is about how the initial part of the investigation went. But super classy about it. Barney Fife would have handled it better. No crime scene at all. Completely disturbed.