johnrth said:

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Y'all must attract dumbs***s to y'all. I've been to public ranges a lot and don't recall noticing anything I felt unsafe about.

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Or maybe you're the guy being unsafe everyone else is telling stories about.

Bender with the MS Paint

Satellite of Love said:

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If you are ever at American shooting center at George Bush Park, look up at the roof while at the firing line. So many bullet holes from idiots. It's amazing that more accidental shooting don't happen at public ranges.

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CharlieBrown17 said:

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Bender with the MS Paint

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I am a man of many talents.






Art is not one of them.

Satellite of Love said:

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If you are ever at American shooting center at George Bush Park, look up at the roof while at the firing line. So many bullet holes from idiots. It's amazing that more accidental shooting don't happen at public ranges.

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If you go back there, walk down to the pistol lanes and look at the bench to see how many rounds have been put through those benches.

Satellite of Love said:

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If you are ever at American shooting center at George Bush Park, look up at the roof while at the firing line. So many bullet holes from idiots. It's amazing that more accidental shooting don't happen at public ranges.

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It's like that at every range in or outdoor. And this is why their range officers (& all range officers anywhere) are such A-holes to their customers. Cuz if they aren't a-holes and allow people to do dumb stuff, bad things happen very quickly.

Went to the range a couple of weeks ago. We had a new shooter with us. I pointed to the roof of the shooting bays and told her, do not add to the number of holes.

I went to Hot Wells once, I think it was 2009 or so. Haven't been back since. Saw a couple things, including actions of the staff, that convinced me to leave and never go back

I drive in houston every day. These are the same people that vote. They also own guns. They shoot them somehwere. This headline, while tragic, doesn't surprise me in the least.


I hope hot wells has a kiclass legal council because they are going to need every bit of every slime-steeped lawyer they can muster. There is definitely a flaw in their system if this was caused by an employee charged with handling a firearm.

That was Terlingua.

https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/1330612/1#discussion

JSKolache said:

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And this is why their range officers (& all range officers anywhere) are such A-holes to their customers. Cuz if they aren't a-holes and allow people to do dumb stuff, bad things happen very quickly.

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This is exactly what I see at the public range I frequent. The Range Officers are sticklers for following the rules, unfriendly and vocal. I don't take it personally. It does keep the idiots (mostly) in line, which is worth it.

In terms of the accident this thread is about, I wonder what type of hunting rifle it was? The reason I ask is that I was chatting with my gunsmith a few months ago and he mentioned one of the times he has witnessed an accidental discharge as well as both ADs we had at local gun shows were lever actions with tubular magazines. He says he triple checks lever actions he works on to make sure they are empty and even removes the inner rod on the tubular magazine to be extra careful. Not bagging on lever actions, I have a couple of them.

I actually know the victim. Dad of 3 small children, triplets actually.

JSKolache said:

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Satellite of Love said:

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If you are ever at American shooting center at George Bush Park, look up at the roof while at the firing line. So many bullet holes from idiots. It's amazing that more accidental shooting don't happen at public ranges.

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It's like that at every range in or outdoor. And this is why their range officers (& all range officers anywhere) are such A-holes to their customers. Cuz if they aren't a-holes and allow people to do dumb stuff, bad things happen very quickly.

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Yep.

At Ben Avery in PHX, the RSO's were all like this. At first it bothered me, but after a couple of visits I understood why. Often times it was the same people on the same trip being told the same thing each and every cease fire. I got to where I would get mad at the RSO's if they weren't being big enough a-holes or didn't toss people early enough for being morons.

My gun club is private with no full time RSO's. The good news is that most of the time there are less than a dozen people there shooting, so you don't have much of a problem. Everybody is loud and vocal during cease fires, the way it should be.

They are probably insured, but it may not be enough.

MouthBQ98 said:

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They are probably insured, but it may not be enough.

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I would be shocked if they didn't carry an umbrella policy in the 8 digit range.

Depending on the jury it may or may not be enough.

drummer0415 said:

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And to reiterate the same point brought by other posters, this is exactly why I joined a private range. I know that I pay a premium for it, but I consider it significantly safer.

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As a fellow Katy homie, what range? You can shoot me an email if you'd like.

BigPuma said:

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Depending on the jury it may or may not be enough.

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Should be more than plenty, holding for type of employment and lost earnings claim. Pure negligence should not result in any punitive damages and they will claim nothing but negligence types causes of action to make sure that the insurance provides coverage.

I recently bought a new rifle. This was the first time I had shopped around in the city at different local gun shops, Bass Pro, Field & Stream, etc. The amount of barrels that were pointed at me by other customers made my stomach churn. People need proper education before buying a gun.

BigPuma said:

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drummer0415 said:

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And to reiterate the same point brought by other posters, this is exactly why I joined a private range. I know that I pay a premium for it, but I consider it significantly safer.

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As a fellow Katy homie, what range? You can shoot me an email if you'd like.

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I joined Bayou Rifles (thanks to somebody here giving the heads up on when they were planning to open registration to new members). They have a pistol only range at I-10 and Eldridge, just on the north side of the Barker dam, and they also have a long distance rifle range down south out near Pearland.

Private facilities are not always safe either, I was a member of PSC near Pearland for a decade and there were plenty of inexperienced shooters who made mistakes and probably an equal number of experienced shooters that were arrogant idiots.

One was 40 yards downrange at 10 o' clock to my position when I touched off at the 300 yard line. I think he spooked himself because he packed up and headed home. Pretty simple rule, when the range goes hot stay behind the line.

Most gun accidents are the result of people who are either uncomfortable with guns or too comfortable with guns.

EVA3 said:

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Most gun accidents are the result of people who are either uncomfortable with guns or too comfortable with guns.

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QFT

I go to a public range outside of valley mills and it's been ok. The crowds are almost always small but the range officer can be a dick (which is good) when he wants to be. On the pistol range, there's a wood overhang to keep you from shooting over the berms. The amount of bullet holes in that overhang is incredible.

The private range i go to outside China springs is hit and miss. Some of the ar crowd get a little wild.

Irish_Man said:

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I go to a public range outside of valley mills and it's been ok. The crowds are almost always small but the range officer can be a dick (which is good) when he wants to be. On the pistol range, there's a wood overhang to keep you from shooting over the berms. The amount of bullet holes in that overhang is incredible.

The private range i go to outside China springs is hit and miss. Some of the ar crowd get a little wild.

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They should work on their aim then.

Yeah hit and miss was a poor choice of words.

I typically shoot at Alpine near Fort Worth. I intentionally build up comp time so I can go shoot starting at 1:30 on Wednesday, and try to avoid October Some times I borderline have the place to myself. But yeah, it is special the occasions that Bubba blasts the middle of the high elevation block with his .300 _____ Magnum.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/who-was-the-cypress-gun-range-accidental-shooting-victim-?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=snd&utm_campaign=kprc2

BigPuma said:

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drummer0415 said:

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And to reiterate the same point brought by other posters, this is exactly why I joined a private range. I know that I pay a premium for it, but I consider it significantly safer.

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As a fellow Katy homie, what range? You can shoot me an email if you'd like.

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I'm a member at the Impactzone which is about 10 miles north of Brookshire. There's 13 shooting bays, during the week there's usually nobody else out there. Weekends there's classes and matches but I've always been able to find a bay to myself.

Phil is a good guy.

In addition to the gun owner, it was a smart 21 year old kid employed by Hot Wells who failed to follow the basic rules of gun safety. From what I've heard, he's a great kid. They'll both live with this for the rest of their lives, but that pales in comparison to what the victim's family will live with. Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

Mike88Ag said:

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In addition to the gun owner, it was a smart 21 year old kid employed by Hot Wells who failed to follow the basic rules of gun safety. From what I've heard, he's a great kid. They'll both live with this for the rest of their lives, but that pales in comparison to what the victim's family will live with. Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

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This. People that are properly trained, over time, forget that others aren't. Handle a few thousand properly unloaded guns in a row and you begin to forget the basics

aggiedent said:

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My wife and I were there maybe 15 years ago when that crusty old lady worked the desk. I have heard that she is now passed. A young (late 20s) couple walked in, the woman carrying a semi auto pistol, flat, in the palm of her hand. We were at the front desk checking in and the barrel was aimed straight at us.

The old lady threw a fit. The young woman said, "but it's jammed. That's the problem, it won't fire."

What the old lady said would not make it past the forum filters, but that's the kind of stupidity you can get at a range.

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Cheryl?