Not sure I would have posted about this prior to speaking with a lawyer... That being said I've made my fair share of mistakes in life, but thankfully forgetting my gun in a restroom wasn't one of them.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Are you guys sure Starbucks is a 30.06?

I know they've "requested" that patrons not bring guns, but I wasn't aware that they posted.

My carry is also a XDs 9mm. I use this holster



The hook slips over my jeans behind my belt and the J-hook comes back up and grabs the bottom of my belt. Only the hook is outside my pants and shirt. I like it because I can't stand an untucked shirt. The only real bathroom problem I have is at a urinal, it's pretty obvious I'm carrying. I try to find one where my right side is behind a partition, or I go in a stall.

And I'm sure I've done some dumb@$$ stuff, but I doubt I'll ever tell you hyenas about them.

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Only the hook is outside, yet your shirt is tucked in? Makes no sense...

The gun must be outside your shirt, or you're not exactly quick on the draw?

Stagecoach said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Are you guys sure Starbucks is a 30.06?

I know they've "requested" that patrons not bring guns, but I wasn't aware that they posted.

My carry is also a XDs 9mm. I use this holster



The hook slips over my jeans behind my belt and the J-hook comes back up and grabs the bottom of my belt. Only the hook is outside my pants and shirt. I like it because I can't stand an untucked shirt. The only real bathroom problem I have is at a urinal, it's pretty obvious I'm carrying. I try to find one where my right side is behind a partition, or I go in a stall.

And I'm sure I've done some dumb@$$ stuff, but I doubt I'll ever tell you hyenas about them.

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Only the hook is outside, yet your shirt is tucked in? Makes no sense...

The gun must be outside your shirt, or you're not exactly quick on the draw?

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I probably described it poorly. Looking at the above photo:

The weapon, and everything leather is inside my pants (fify proteceted) The plastic hook only attaches to the leather by that bolt at the bottom of the black plastic hook. The black plastic makes a 180 curve at the top, drops down about 2 inches, and does another 180 back up to make that little 1/4 inch lip.

So the top 2 inches hook on the jeans, the belt goes on the outside of the 2 inches, and the lip in the middle of the photo curls back up and hooks the bottom of the belt.

The shirt goes behind the black plastic hook. The top of thejeans are at the level of the top of the black plastic.

Stagecoach said:

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Only the hook is outside, yet your shirt is tucked in? Makes no sense...

The gun must be outside your shirt, or you're not exactly quick on the draw?

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It's a very common holster set up.

Maybe this picture will help.

Get it, so most of the handgun is exposed outside of the shirt and above the belt. Wouldn't consider that "concealed" if so. Just an observation. I was confused by the description.

Had the same freak out moment myself yesterday in SA. My holster is a JM4 QCC with the magnets. Put it on the stall wall while pissing and thought I'd forgotten it too later. I was luckier than you.

Hope you're able to get it back without issue tomorrow

lawless89 said:

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I seriously doubt the Dallas PD is going to come out hunting for me over a lost firearm that was turned in. I'm sure they'll just lock the gun away for a few years and then do whatever it is they do with them.

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They might not have to hunt for you. If the Starbucks in question is particularly anti-gun, chances are good they wrote down your number from the caller ID and called the officer that opened the case to let him know the potential owner made contact with the store to retrieve the gun.

As someone eluded to, remember that they'll treat this gun as bad and belonging to a criminal instead of an average Joe. I'm sure they'll perform some sort of an investigation. In the event that Starbucks doesn't call, the police might call back in a few days on a follow up to ask if anyone called to claim it. They'd likely hand over your number then.

I'd seek out an attorney and get a holster with a clip, provided that you'll be able to keep your LTC.

I'm not trying to play Monday morning quarterback but you don't know if the establishment was 30.06 and you left your gun for 6 hours before realizing you left it in a public establishment. If you took your phone out of your pocket (I mean wat else do we do when dropping a duece) and remembered to put that back in I would question if you are responsible to carry at this time. You may later but I would be doing some thinking.

I don't get it but I'm not in your shoes or know what is going on in your life.

Starbucks aren't all 30.06 the one next to my office isn't and I open carry in it.

I had something similar happened to me last year it's literally go pick up the gun they're going to give you talking to other than that you're good to go it's not a ticket it's not fine you're not going to jail quit being paranoid. You'll feel like a dumbass for a while but I guarantee you won't do it again I know I sure as hell haven't

OK, story time. Another "Eyeguy Tale from the Gun Store". So far, this is the most jacked up sale that I've had. Keep in mind, I'm posting this because I think you should be proactive on it and also to give you some timelines on how long this might take to filter through. Your life, your call but I'd go ahead and talk to a lawyer on it. For something like this, it probably won't be too expensive.

Early July... we have the break in. One guy gets caught quickly and is in custody. The two days later, I roll up to the store in the morning to find Sean on his phone in front of the store, which is odd. If he were to be just screwing around on the clock, it would have been inside so I knew something was up. I walk up and low and behold, there is a gun in a box that was left in front of the barbershop. Sean is on the phone with HPD and they are sending an officer out.

To be honest, I figured that it was one of the firearms that was stolen from us and that the guy had his babymomma, brother, cuz, etc drop it off as a peace offering because I already told the DA to hammer this a-hole hard when it came to sentencing. Once HPD shows up, he gets the serial on it and I check it. The serial isn't one of our stolen guns, but from another gun that I had sold a bit earlier.

Where did it come from? Well, back in May, I had a customer come in and buy a Glock as a gift for his cousin. He got delayed and then a proceed came back on it. Cool, customer comes to pick up the Glock and that's the last I think I'll hear about this one. A month later, I get a call from the FBI changing the proceed to a denial. Completely throws me for a loop. Of course, I already transferred the gun over so I have to turn over customer's info to the ATF so that can figure out what to do with it.

Oddly enough, the customer is only temporarily denied from having a gun and would be able to do so in a few months. ATF agent is pretty cool about it and asks if we're cool with holding the firearm until the customer's issue clears. Without getting into the details of it, I am cool with it because the customer seemed pretty cool and ATF is actually 100% on board with letting the guy have the gun, it's just a weird situation for him specifically. That's the last I hear about it until that day.

Now the fun really begins. Customer that purchased the gun calls us and says, "Hey, my cousin brought the gun over and dropped it off for you guys." He was very much not pleased to learn that we already called HPD and that they were there and going to take the gun to their ballistics lab. I was 10x more pissed that his cousin dropped the gun off IN A BOX AT 5AM in front of our building. Guy was too dumb to even put it in front of our store. I laid into him.

Long story short, customer calls the ATF agent that was handling this whole fiasco and ATF agent calls me. He's also nonplussed about the situation as I am but still okays the guy to have the gun. I'm on the fence at this point but let everything play out. After HPD runs it through ballsitics, they give the gun to the ATF and the ATF brings the gun back to me. Keep in mind, HPD gets the gun in July.

Yesterday, I get a phone call from the tracing center about a trace. Yep, they are just now doing the trace on this serial number from when the HPD got involved in July. I'm like... "uh, the gun is here?" And then have to recount the entire ordeal to the tracing center.

So, TL/DR.... the thing I want the op to walk away with... they will trace it back to him if he bought it new and it may take a while for it to filter back over.

I realize the OP is rightly stressed about the bigger issues at play here, but since it has been brought up several times:

- Many public restroom TP dispensers are enclosed by a metal container, with the TP accessible from the bottom. I really doubt it was simply an exposed roll, like at your house, that he somehow balanced his holster on and then did not bother to wipe. So it would be easy to set it down, clean yourself up and then when he stood facing away from the dispenser simply forgot it.

- Second, I rarely visit Starbucks except for on road trips in which case a visit to the restroom is part of the pit stop. To be totally PC with their uppity clientele, most Starbucks that I have visited have unisex restrooms - individual rooms with one toilet per room. So no, he did not crap in the ladies' room. And even if he did, he could simply say he was identifying female that day and all would be forgiven in this day and age, right?!


If this was me, paying $300 for an hour of a lawyer's time would be money well spent. Worst case the Starbucks manager noted the time the gun was turned in, and retrieved security footage from any cameras within the establishment and looking out at the parking lot. From there they could have the face and potentially vehicle info for every person who entered that specific bathroom that day. So if the cops did come calling, respond with your lawyer's name and number and then hang up. But I guarantee you an hour talking through the possible scenarios with the lawyer will be well worth your money.

Starbucks restrooms are coed.

IN! Jesus dude. And at a 30.06 establishment too. Come on, man....

htxag09 said:

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Am I the only one who would contact an attorney on this, even if I'm not planning on getting my gun back? I'd prefer knowing what's going on vs. hoping I never get a call....

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This! I would call my lawyer and tell him the situation. Then give him the case number and have him call the police to discuss retrieval and any repercussions. If the lawyer finds out things area all good then go pick up the gun and pay the lawyer his couple of hundred bucks. if things are not good, then you already have a lawyer that can provide advice/representation...

I just jam the gun into my boot (or sock if I have shoes on.) I usually carry a .380 so it isn't a problem. I am terrified of the gun falling off my pants so I always remove it first and stuff it in the boot.

Ag 11 said:

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Did you drop a deuce in the ladies room?

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That's got my BS meter up on this thread

I would think that you could face charges for this. If the business has signage of no guns allowed and then to leave it unattended for anyone to find. Seriously I would think there has to be some sort of penalty for this. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for you but you have to own up to your actions.

Not trying to judge, but it's remarkable to me that this post was started, much less still up. Google "lost gun starbucks texags" and it's easily found. Not sure if LEO would think to use texags in their search but point is, it's out there, forever. THAT alone, coupled with my OCD, would drive me insane indefinitely. Every time I got pulled over for speeding I'd wonder if today was the day it caught up to me. Phone ringing with unknown number. Booking a flight. You get it....

I'd have to own my mistake. I'd seek legal advice and then just own it. There may be a small price to pay now for your unfortunate mistake, but you'd have resolution. Consider it a lesson learned. No one was hurt. We all make mistakes...

When you called SB back on cell phone. I'm guessing they have caller ID and they passed that info on to the police. Manager was probably pissed off and should be. Police probably tracking down phone location and owner now.