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BenderRodriguez said:

Love the 34. My 19 is a Gen4 and the grip hasn't ever bothered me too badly, but I know some people really hate it so I get why you prefer the gen 3 grip. And I thought it was interesting that the Glock guys were having as much trouble with magazines as they were. Never seen that before, but never shot a match below freezing before either. The magazines would still eject reliably, but they would stick in the mag well about half way out and need to be stripped out by hand, which slowed them all down a bit. My Dan Wesson was slightly frozen and took a bit of effort to get the slide moving before we shot the first stage, but once we were shooting I had no issues. My reloads are still damnably slow...I got used to the nice big double stack Glock mag well and I fumble my 1911 reloads sometimes....stupid single stack magazine wells are less easy to reload quickly.

I hear you on wanting to use every day gear. If you use kydex IWB holsters I think it'll be no problem. I use a leather IWB for my 1911 and it just isn't easy to reholster over and over again at a match. I've done it once or twice, but much prefer using OWB kydex options...less for the draw and more for the ease of re-holstering.

I also need to lose some muffin top...that would make reholstering easier too.




Losing the muffin top makes everything easier. Except perhaps winning at see-saw. I suffer from the same problem.

I use a CrossBreed Supertuck for daily carry. It holsters easy enough. I've used it for some of the training classes I've taken without issue (although it's certainly not as easy or fast as an uncovered kydex IWB holster).

I haven't seen that issue with Glock mags either, but I also haven't spent any time shooting it below freezing.
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Hoss said:

Nevermind. Found what I was looking for...

http://www.caps-club.org/idpa.html

I know the owner of this group. John is a great guy. I have talked to him numerous times about going out for an IDPA shoot and just never followed through with it. I really need to try one of these, my only fear is that once I do I'll be hooked and wanting to go all the time.
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Definitely interested in going to shoot one of these matches. At the same time, would like to refresh a bit of my training outside of that.

Any defensive/practical shooting courses that people recommend? Not just pistol but AR/home defense also. Just want to refresh in a structured environment and I'm sure Texas has plenty. I travel for work quite a bit and would be open to suggestions in any of the 4 major metro areas of Texas.
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Buck Compton said:

Any defensive/practical shooting courses that people recommend? Not just pistol but AR/home defense also. Just want to refresh in a structured environment and I'm sure Texas has plenty. I travel for work quite a bit and would be open to suggestions in any of the 4 major metro areas of Texas.
I've taken Pistol 1, Pistol 2, Active Shooter, Active Shooter w/Trauma and Low Light / Home Defense at Combative Weapon Solutions in Bastrop and highly recommend them. It's good stuff. And you'll get to do some force on force exercises using sim rounds that will get your heart pumping (and will hurt a lot if you mess up).

They also offer rifle and shotgun classes, but so far I have only taken pistol classes.

http://tacticalfirearmstrainingaustin.com/

I also took Beginner Combat Handgun and Intermediate Combat Handgun years ago at Strategic Weapons Academy of Texas about 20 miles south of Dallas (outside Ennis). Their classes have different names now. This was my first place for any formal training and it made me realize just how much I didn't know. That was probably 15 years ago, but I have no reason to think they're not still good.

http://weaponsacademy.com/
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Sent you a reply w my email. Shoot me an email after work? Thanks!
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Shoot me an email at charliebrowncrew@gmail.com bender

I'm in Georgetown when class isn't in session and would like to shoot a match either a weekend I can get back or this summer
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Signed up for a defensive Pistol class today the second Saturday of February, so the match I was gonna try that same day will have to wait until March.
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boogs and charlie, emailing now. Had a busy day, just now getting to it, sorry.

Hoss, look forward to seeing what you think of it.

Matches aren't a replacement for good training, but I think they're a very good supplement.

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BenderRodriguez said:

Hoss, look forward to seeing what you think of it.

Matches aren't a replacement for good training, but I think they're a very good supplement.



Not sure if you meant the class or the match. The class is at the Weapons academy I linked in my post above. After posting the link I looked at their schedule and noticed they have a class coming up in February. My dad and two brothers-in-law all Carry and live near Ennis so I convinced them we should all go do it together. I've been through seven all day classes so far so it shouldn't be anything new for me, but you can never practice the fundamentals too much.

If you meant my first match, I'll get back to you on that in March.
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Hoss said:



If you meant my first match, I'll get back to you on that in March.

That's what I meant.
Buck Compton
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Hoss said:

BenderRodriguez said:

Hoss, look forward to seeing what you think of it.

Matches aren't a replacement for good training, but I think they're a very good supplement.



Not sure if you meant the class or the match. The class is at the Weapons academy I linked in my post above. After posting the link I looked at their schedule and noticed they have a class coming up in February. My dad and two brothers-in-law all Carry and live near Ennis so I convinced them we should all go do it together. I've been through seven all day classes so far so it shouldn't be anything new for me, but you can never practice the fundamentals too much.

If you meant my first match, I'll get back to you on that in March.
I'll be at the February Pistol 1/2 at Combative that you linked, Hoss. I live in DFW, but am in Austin for work those two weeks so it worked perfectly.

I'll report back.
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Sweet. Obviously I like their classes a lot because I keep going back. I hear they've improved Pistol 1 & 2 since i took them a couple of years ago, so I'd kinda like to take them again to see what changed.
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Received read and replied
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GigemCO2008 said:



Besides matches, are there any ranges in Houston or courses around Houston that teach some defensive handgun training that you would recommend?



http://www.glcshootingacademy.com/

its been a few years since ive been, but the guy who teaches that course (gordon) used to be a regular at the sportsman's outlet in atascocita. hes a multi time IDPA champ that would do walkthroughs and practice sessions once a week at the range.
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So is anyone here a part of WHIDPA?

I sent them an email yesterday about attendding their match next Wednesday.

I haven't heard back, but do I need to sign up on the national IDPA site?

I plan to show up early next Wednesday and hopefully give it a go.

So the pistol I plan on using is my 9mm XDs. It has 2 7 round mags and 1 8rd. My normal carry holster is a "sticky" but does anyone have recommendations for a holster I can pick up for not too much that meets match requirements.

I just don't want to spend a huge amount since I may change what I carry to a Sig 938.

Thanks
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Did the suspect that was killed actually get a round off?
I didn't think so, but I read an account that said the round that shattered the display case, between the owner and the thug, came from the thug.
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CanyonAg77 said:

I didn't think so, but I read an account that said the round that shattered the display case, between the owner and the thug, came from the thug.

That's what I thought too after watching the video several times. Looked like the thug hit the case and the shop owner hit the thug.

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GigemCO2008 said:

I haven't heard back, but do I need to sign up on the national IDPA site?

So the pistol I plan on using is my 9mm XDs. It has 2 7 round mags and 1 8rd. My normal carry holster is a "sticky" but does anyone have recommendations for a holster I can pick up for not too much that meets match requirements.

I just don't want to spend a huge amount since I may change what I carry to a Sig 938.

Thanks

No need to sign up for IDPA before your first match. Just tell them you're checking it out. If you like it and plan on continuing to shoot, then you can sign up with IDPA.

The XDs should work for IDPA, but if you continue to shoot matches you're going to want more magazines or a higher capacity gun...especially for USPSA.

Do the XD's still come with kydex holsters/mag holders in the case? That should work fine for the first match as you try things out...in general I like Comp Tac or Bladetech for holsters.
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The XDs should work for IDPA, but if you continue to shoot matches you're going to want more magazines or a higher capacity gun...especially for USPSA.

You mean something like a Glock 17?
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Well you inspired and I shot my first IDPA last night with West Houston Shooting Club.

I ended up picking up a Sig SP2022 with a threaded barrel (will have a suppressor at some point) and also has a manual safety.

New gun

Those guys can shoot fast but it was a lot of fun.

I was most focused on not breaking any rules or procedural violations and shot placements. I really didn't want to go home by dropping my gun, breaking the 180 rule, or any of those other items.

The nights sights came in handy since it was dark by the time the match started.

I really encourage anyone to go out and try out IDPA. I mean I was only faster than the revolvers, but I'll get better over time.

Thanks again for inspiring me to get out and be a better shooter.
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'03ag said:

carpe vinum said:

I'm confident with pistols
I have a 3 year old that gets into absolutely everything.
I intentionally keep a few extra steps involved for a reason.
A rambunctious 3 year old is vastly more likely than a shootout.
As an expecting father I certainly empathize with this. I'm wondering what kind of adjustments I'll have to make. There has to be a better solution though.

Right now I have a quick access safe mounted to my nightstand. I leave it open at night. seems like a bad idea with a toddler in the house. I do think I could get it open pretty quickly in the middle of the night.

As for during the day your best option may be to home carry when around the house. Keep it on you and under your control.

If you must keep it unchambered then practice practice practice chambering that thing.
Get your wife to set an alarm clock at a random time on a random night that you won't know about, and find out. Better yet, do this several times.

It's better to know than to think. IMO.
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GigemCO2008 said:

I was most focused on not breaking any rules or procedural violations and shot placements. I really didn't want to go home by dropping my gun, breaking the 180 rule, or any of those other items.


Outstanding! Glad you enjoyed it.

My first match I walked everywhere, didn't try running once. Just wanted to focus on safety/muzzle awareness. Try USPSA next.
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Did a few IDPA matches in 2016 for the first time. It was a blast and I'm hoping this year to do at least one a month once they start up again in March. I started doing them for the exact reasons this post was started. I wanted to be able to practice drawing then shooting, reloading on the fly, shooting on the move, as well as off hand and one handed shooting, all while under pressure. IDPA does this for me in an environment other than a static shooting range.
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USPSA is great - but if you're new to competition, IDPA might be a better place to stick for awhile.

It will depend on your local clubs, but some use layouts which will be very challenging for folks who have not shot competitively for awhile.

(I've seen new Shooter's empty their Ammo belts trying to clear an occluded Texas Star.)
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There is a steels match on Feb 12 at CCC in Millican.

match info

You do need to preregister in advance; if the match fills up there will not be walk up registration.

Pistol
Shotgun
PCC (9mm riflt)
22 pistol
22 rifle
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Bumping the thread. I owe a couple follow up emails to a few of you, sorry for my delayed response. January was busy.

Going to be shooting some Production in USPSA with my P-09 this year...finally trying out the competition style belt and pouches instead of using carry belts/gear.





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Just signed up for this. I've never done a steel match, what should I expect? I've done 3-gun and uspsa out there quite a bit over the last couple of years.
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HUEY04 said:

Just signed up for this. I've never done a steel match, what should I expect? I've done 3-gun and uspsa out there quite a bit over the last couple of years.
Steels is much easier than uspsa and 3gun.

Bring a pistol and several mags, shotgun, PCC, or 22 rifle.
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Just did my first uspsa match here locally this am... i am apparently terrible at shooting. The sponsored guys were silly good. Everyone was very nice, but i have no doubt i was slowest there- but no DQ and no rules broken.

I was the only guy without a belt.

My retention holster mader life hard as every round started loaded and holstered. They also had 2
Some freakin distant targets. Quickly reloading my glock 22 was just not happening like reloading was going for everyone else.

Overall a good time. I need to work on my mechanics with speed to get better.
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BreNayPop said:

Just did my first uspsa match here locally this am... no DQ and no rules broken.
mission accomplished.
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What belt and mag holsters do yall run?
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If you're new to action shooting games and not sure which game you're going to commit to playing, do not spend a lot of money on gear. Some stuff is not legal across multiple games.

I mainly shoot uspsa so I went with this because it was a one stop shop deal. NOTE: not IDPA legal http://benstoegerproshop.com/bsps-boss-doh-holster-5-x-ghost-magazine-pouches-double-alpha-academy-daa-belt-deal/
dubi
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We held a night match last evening at CCC.

Really fun and attracted 41 shooters with 1 weeks notice.

PCC or pistol with lights/night vision.
BreNayPop
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Thats the rig i think i saw most people with...

I think im going to just fix my trigger, work on fundamentals, and try to shoot lots and then see where things go. I really want one of those belt rigs tho.
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Dry fire and draw with a dummy barrel. That will help most folks new to competitive shooting.

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