This... so much this.CanyonAg77 said:
I bet eyeguy would prefer thugs just stayed the hell away. No matter how low the lowlife is, it's got to effect you if you take one out. I still remember taking out an aggressive dog 25 years ago.
(PSA) Don't try to rob a gun store
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Can we test out that power washer right quick, and how much old man?
Trigger06 said:
What racism? You're the only one that brought up race.
C'mon, Trigger. Go back and re-read.
"Hood rat"? "Dint do nuffin"?
1. Agreed 100%, no lawsuit to be filed.Snow Monkey Ambassador said:
Two things:
1. There's no lawsuit here by anyone for anything. Stop believing urban myths and learn something.
2. Some of y'all need to check your racism. Like, a lot.
Carry on . . .
2. Learn what "racism" actually is, and the difference between that and using statistical and visual data to make stereotypical comments that are well deserved. And learn what stereotypes are and why they exist.
DeadCiv said:Trigger06 said:
What racism? You're the only one that brought up race.
C'mon, Trigger. Go back and re-read.
"Hood rat"? "Dint do nuffin"?
Perhaps I've mis-read them, but in my estimation, those quotes refer to culture associated with the perpetrator, not his race. While the two are often correlated, they are most certainly not the same.
I've seen plenty of folks of all colors try to talk that way for whatever reason. Maybe they think it's tough. At any rate, I guess we're supposed to ignore the truth if someone thinks it "racist".
who are the ones here presuming race, and presumptively linking race with culture? Remember that it says much more about you to PRESUME people are talking about race than it does of them. Who is actually inferring the connection?
A person of any race can adopt thug criminal cultural behaviors. Looking at the video on a phone, it is hard to even tell the race of the perpetrator, and the family of just about every criminal regardless of race always seems to insist they were a good kid and this came out of nowhere.
A person of any race can adopt thug criminal cultural behaviors. Looking at the video on a phone, it is hard to even tell the race of the perpetrator, and the family of just about every criminal regardless of race always seems to insist they were a good kid and this came out of nowhere.
there seems to be quite a few robbers that successfully rob gun stores though. Makes me wonder what the ATF thinks about gun store owners who keep getting robbed. Seems like they'd shut them down eventually for letting all those guns onto the streets.gumby579 said:
Liveleak
This went about as expected
ATF came by and warned us about this. Armed robberies are on the rise. Like I said earlier, staff stays openly armed and I always have something available if not noticeably on me.230Ag said:there seems to be quite a few robbers that successfully rob gun stores though. Makes me wonder what the ATF thinks about gun store owners who keep getting robbed. Seems like they'd shut them down eventually for letting all those guns onto the streets.gumby579 said:
Liveleak
This went about as expected
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
Some already are. We've thought about it.
Phuc at Firepower United has a good take on it. Must listen with sound.
https://instagr.am/p/BPEf3jgBwYD
https://instagr.am/p/BPEf3jgBwYD
By the way, was Genius #1 dual-wielding? It looks like two guns slide away from him as he falls.
Curious...how does that stop someone from robbing the store? Couldn't they just keep their gun concealed until they get in and then pull it out?powerbelly51 said:
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
Hoss said:Curious...how does that stop someone from robbing the store? Couldn't they just keep their gun concealed until they get in and then pull it out?powerbelly51 said:
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
It doesn't stop anything.
But if someone had to be buzzed in, the chances of the old guy who returned fire having his back turned when they walk in like in the video go down significantly.
A robber hitting a pawn shop is one step above one that hits a dollar general...
I think there are several factors in play.Hoss said:Curious...how does that stop someone from robbing the store? Couldn't they just keep their gun concealed until they get in and then pull it out?powerbelly51 said:
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
1. The security doors are an extra deterrent
2. By holding a person in a confined space before buzzing in, you can capture a good photo/video of the person3
3. You can profile someone before letting them in
4. Person behind the counter knows someone is coming in the door.
ETA: Some jewelry stores pay an off duty cop to sit in the "holding" room
Seeing this is real life really drives home the point of how important it is to practice with your weapon. Practice shooting, loading, drawing, clearing a jam.....Getting it out of your gd holster when it's under 3 layers of clothing. This happens so fast. It makes it clear how smooth you must be and the decision that is made without any hesitation if the situation arises. That guy was caught off guard with his back to them and still got business taken care of. That to me is nothing but practice and muscle memory....Second nature stuff. If he had paused at all it could have ended a lot differently.
Looks to me like he had one gun in his right and and was in the process of reaching for another with his left when he got popped.Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
By the way, was Genius #1 dual-wielding? It looks like two guns slide away from him as he falls.
BrazosDog02 said:
Seeing this is real life really drives home the point of how important it is to practice with your weapon. Practice shooting, loading, drawing, clearing a jam.....Getting it out of your gd holster when it's under 3 layers of clothing. This happens so fast. It makes it clear how smooth you must be and the decision that is made without any hesitation if the situation arises. That guy was caught off guard with his back to them and still got business taken care of. That to me is nothing but practice and muscle memory....Second nature stuff. If he had paused at all it could have ended a lot differently.
If only there was some way to practice things like drawing from concealment, moving and engaging multiple targets, not hitting bystanders, reloading under pressure, etc without getting shot at by thugs.....
ETA: you've inspired me to start a thread.
Primary Arms has this - you have to be buzzed in and out.powerbelly51 said:
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
And they pretty much always have a LEO on site as well.
Very sad. A bunch of kids will never get a chance to meet their father.
BrazosDog02 said:
Seeing this is real life really drives home the point of how important it is to practice with your weapon. Practice shooting, loading, drawing, clearing a jam.....Getting it out of your gd holster when it's under 3 layers of clothing. This happens so fast. It makes it clear how smooth you must be and the decision that is made without any hesitation if the situation arises. That guy was caught off guard with his back to them and still got business taken care of. That to me is nothing but practice and muscle memory....Second nature stuff. If he had paused at all it could have ended a lot differently.
Anyone else think it was pretty risky trying to draw once already drawn on?
I saw the robber distracted, but I'm not sure I'd make that move. I consider the lives of my kids, wife, etc with any decision I make, so I've told myself that any scenario where I live is the best. Losing any of my property isn't worth shooting someone. Hard to know if the robber would shoot either way.
Funny, this popped up on suggested videos when I watched the OP video on the Tube of You.
That's a great video. I've seen it here before. The shot in video two is unbelieveable (not sure I'd take/make that shot either).
I think I would've waited or tried to create a distraction like that for the criminal to give me more time/space.
Bender, Brazos, etc bring up great points about continued training; I shoot a good amount, but never enough.
I think I would've waited or tried to create a distraction like that for the criminal to give me more time/space.
Bender, Brazos, etc bring up great points about continued training; I shoot a good amount, but never enough.
It also makes it much more difficult to exit the store. Sure the store will have a fire exit that is easy to get out of, but most lowlifes aren't deep thinkers and will try to escape through the way they entered. To exit, they'd need to get buzzed out.Hoss said:Curious...how does that stop someone from robbing the store? Couldn't they just keep their gun concealed until they get in and then pull it out?powerbelly51 said:
I wonder how long it will be until gun stores are like high end jewelry stores that have multiple remote locking doors you have to pass through before you get into the actual store.
It won't prevent a determined, but stupid criminal, but most will bypass the more difficult location for an easier one.
It looked like, to me at least, that he drew as the guy turned to say something to his accomplice. He also seemed to play like he was confused going into it, probably giving the perps a false sense of security.
3rdGenAg05 said:
Anyone else think it was pretty risky trying to draw once already drawn on?
I saw the robber distracted, but I'm not sure I'd make that move. I consider the lives of my kids, wife, etc with any decision I make, so I've told myself that any scenario where I live is the best. Losing any of my property isn't worth shooting someone. Hard to know if the robber would shoot either way.
I agree that losing property isn't worth life.
If I see someone breaking into my car in the driveway, for example....I'm calling the cops, not going out to confront them.
But something to keep in mind in a situation like this is that someone who enters a situation to rob you with a gun drawn has already made the decision that your life is worth less than whatever he can steal, be that $20, $5,000 or a candy bar.
Given that, I think that like you I'd want to wait for an opportunity but if given one, there would be no hesitation. Someone pointing a gun at me has already decided what my life is worth, and if I have to pick between hoping for mercy from someone willing to rob others at gunpoint or my own skill/luck in defending myself....I'm going to draw.
YMMV.
Snow Monkey Ambassador said:
2. Some of y'all need to check your racism. Like, a lot.
Marauder Blue 6 said:
Phuc at Firepower United has a good take on it. Must listen with sound.
https://instagr.am/p/BPEf3jgBwYD
I'm choking I'm laughing so hard.
SMA has no idea WTF he is taking about
This the robbery...everybody give me your egg roll
Not today man....
Not today man....
EMY92 said:
Sure the store will have a fire exit that is easy to get out of, but most lowlifes aren't deep thinkers
Kinda depends. We've had plenty of AHJ's require crash bars on "secured" entries.
Marauder Blue 6 said:
Phuc at Firepower United has a good take on it. Must listen with sound.
https://instagr.am/p/BPEf3jgBwYD
What is he saying?
3rdGenAg05 said:BrazosDog02 said:
Seeing this is real life really drives home the point of how important it is to practice with your weapon. Practice shooting, loading, drawing, clearing a jam.....Getting it out of your gd holster when it's under 3 layers of clothing. This happens so fast. It makes it clear how smooth you must be and the decision that is made without any hesitation if the situation arises. That guy was caught off guard with his back to them and still got business taken care of. That to me is nothing but practice and muscle memory....Second nature stuff. If he had paused at all it could have ended a lot differently.
Anyone else think it was pretty risky trying to draw once already drawn on?
I saw the robber distracted, but I'm not sure I'd make that move. I consider the lives of my kids, wife, etc with any decision I make, so I've told myself that any scenario where I live is the best. Losing any of my property isn't worth shooting someone. Hard to know if the robber would shoot either way.
Yes, but I'm also about 65% sure I could have made the shot and would have likely passed. Maybe if I had some training I'd be 80 or 90% sure. Confidence is a huge part is success in anything.
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