Because it was drawn out over a few days and the soil was so dry, I doubt there was much runoff.
Rain is outdoors.....
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Yea I have friends texting me about floating the river and wanting status checks and aren't happy when we get rain and they don't understand why the CFS is still so low. I'm like the ground is literally soaking it all up as it comes down. Drove through Blanco Fredericksburg Harper Kerrville and Bandera today and while it is green, there was no standing water anywhere. And all the rivers are still so low.
mAgnoliAg said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Last 5-6 days or so
Frio still shows only 20 CFS
As far as I'm concerned, the Frio is a dead river. Way too much upstream subdivision and alteration of water budget.
Honest question... when was the last time the Frio flowed unbroken from say Concan to Tilden?
Memorial Day weekend 2015. It went over hwy 90 and filled choke canyon up. We decided to leave Amistad a day early to be able to hit 90 all the way back to SA/NB. IIRC but I remember getting back home and watching the Wimberley disaster and just being glad we weren't stuck in Del Rio.
Looks like the panhandle is getting some very much needed rain tonight
4-5 years ago we got a memorial day flood after getting some good soaking 2-3" rains the weeks prior.......that was the last i recall
Choke hasnt been "full" since 07-08ish.
Correct
Here west of Crawford, I don't know how much it has rained in the last hour but my front yard is flooded, which I have never seen happen.
6 weeks ago we were sitting at 0.57" since January 1. We finally created the 6" for the year mark yesterday morning.
Would have been fantastic to have everything planted, but if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans!
A bad wheel bearing on the drill stopped planting ahead of the pending rainfall, now we wait. But we needed the moisture so much. We were fortunate to have enough hay to feed this year of it did rain, but having greened up pastures sure does make a man breathe a little bit easier.
Would have been fantastic to have everything planted, but if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans!
A bad wheel bearing on the drill stopped planting ahead of the pending rainfall, now we wait. But we needed the moisture so much. We were fortunate to have enough hay to feed this year of it did rain, but having greened up pastures sure does make a man breathe a little bit easier.
Any Coryell County reports?
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B-1 83 said:
Any Coryell County reports?
I'm a mile from the county line with 2.9" and my buddy is in Coryell City. 1.5" there and 2" in Osage.
Ended up getting over an inch yesterday evening/night in Midland. Believe that's more than double what we had received total year to date.
Finally! Glad you got some rain.
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We've had a nice pattern of rain the past few weeks in the Boerne area. But it is still so, so dry. From ponding in the backyard during an overnight rain to no standing water the next morning. And this is the back of our almost acre yesterday.
I know weatherman don't get it right every time, but one thing I think I'm starting to believe in is the accuracy of the La Niña/El Nino patterns. They said La Niña was over, and we were in the neutral ground. Then the floodgates opened.
WaldoWings said:
I know weatherman don't get it right every time, but one thing I think I'm starting to believe in is the accuracy of the La Niña/El Nino patterns. They said La Niña was over, and we were in the neutral ground. Then the floodgates opened.
I looked at rainfall patterns in the San Antonio area a few years ago as part of a permitting project, and some the wettest non-hurricane years in the San Antonio area were during transition from La Nina to El Nino. The rainfall in the area is actually fairly closely correlated to the ENSO index.
The interesting thing was how rare the "average" rainfall number was. IIRC the total rainfall was only within 8" of the "average" about 1/3 of the time. The other 2/3 were either drought or flood years.
txags92 said:WaldoWings said:
I know weatherman don't get it right every time, but one thing I think I'm starting to believe in is the accuracy of the La Niña/El Nino patterns. They said La Niña was over, and we were in the neutral ground. Then the floodgates opened.
I looked at rainfall patterns in the San Antonio area a few years ago as part of a permitting project, and some the wettest non-hurricane years in the San Antonio area were during transition from La Nina to El Nino. The rainfall in the area is actually fairly closely correlated to the ENSO index.
The interesting thing was how rare the "average" rainfall number was. IIRC the total rainfall was only within 8" of the "average" about 1/3 of the time. The other 2/3 were either drought or flood years.
That is very interesting and seems right. It is either raining cats and dogs or not raining a drop and each cycle seems to last a long time.
txags92 said:WaldoWings said:
I know weatherman don't get it right every time, but one thing I think I'm starting to believe in is the accuracy of the La Niña/El Nino patterns. They said La Niña was over, and we were in the neutral ground. Then the floodgates opened.
I looked at rainfall patterns in the San Antonio area a few years ago as part of a permitting project, and some the wettest non-hurricane years in the San Antonio area were during transition from La Nina to El Nino. The rainfall in the area is actually fairly closely correlated to the ENSO index.
The interesting thing was how rare the "average" rainfall number was. IIRC the total rainfall was only within 8" of the "average" about 1/3 of the time. The other 2/3 were either drought or flood years.
That's well said and not really a surprise to native Texans. The hill country is basically no man's land between coastal wet and west Texas desert. Depending on the low / high predominant wind patterns (jet stream), you're more likely to get one or the other. It's not a coincidence the flora more resembles the desert except around live water. That's why I find it annoying as hell when people move there and then complain about lack of rain.
It's about as intelligent as Las Vegas residents being surprised they're running out of water.
B-1 83 said:
Any Coryell County reports?
1.4" on South mountain
The real control on moisture levels and rainfall for west Texas and most of the southern hill country is how much Pacific moisture makes it over the mountains from Mexico via the subtropical jet stream. The ENSO plays a big role in the strength of that jet stream and its positioning. With a weak jet or one diverted north toward California, most of the moisture stays west of the mountains and/or ends up in the cascades. With a strong jet, we get lots of 2-3 day 3-5" rainfall events scattered over several months time. Further East, the moisture comes from the Gulf of Mexico and is less dependent on the jet stream strength or position.AgLA06 said:txags92 said:WaldoWings said:
I know weatherman don't get it right every time, but one thing I think I'm starting to believe in is the accuracy of the La Niña/El Nino patterns. They said La Niña was over, and we were in the neutral ground. Then the floodgates opened.
I looked at rainfall patterns in the San Antonio area a few years ago as part of a permitting project, and some the wettest non-hurricane years in the San Antonio area were during transition from La Nina to El Nino. The rainfall in the area is actually fairly closely correlated to the ENSO index.
The interesting thing was how rare the "average" rainfall number was. IIRC the total rainfall was only within 8" of the "average" about 1/3 of the time. The other 2/3 were either drought or flood years.
That's well said and not really a surprise to native Texans. The hill country is basically no man's land between coastal wet and west Texas desert. Depending on the low / high predominant wind patterns, you're more likely to get one or the other. It's not a coincidence the flora more resembles the desert except around live water. That's why I find it annoying as hell when people move there and then complain about lack of rain.
It's about as intelligent as Las Vegas residents being surprised they're running out of water.
Added almost 2" yesterday near Concan
Another 1" today! Almost more rain in May than last year 
Will try to get some photos up on the Buffalo Lake thread on Panhandle Board.
https://texags.com/forums/39/topics/2774278
But we have had over 12" of rain SW of Canyon in the last 2-3 weeks.
Our yearly average is about 20".
In the Hereford, Texas, area, they got 6-8 inches last night, on top of saturated ground. It caused flooding along Tierra Blanca Creek, which is headed downstream to Buffalo Lake NWR. Before the stream gage broke about 4 this afternoon, flow was close to 6000 CFS.
Buffalo Lake was dry a few days ago, and an impoundment area on the upstream end only had a couple of small ponds with anything in them. The impoundment area is covered with water now, and maybe 2 feet higher than last week. Two more feet and the water from the wetland heads to the lake itself.
Can't wait to see it. Lake has been dry, except for brief periods of a little bit of water, for decades.
https://texags.com/forums/39/topics/2774278
But we have had over 12" of rain SW of Canyon in the last 2-3 weeks.
Our yearly average is about 20".
In the Hereford, Texas, area, they got 6-8 inches last night, on top of saturated ground. It caused flooding along Tierra Blanca Creek, which is headed downstream to Buffalo Lake NWR. Before the stream gage broke about 4 this afternoon, flow was close to 6000 CFS.
Buffalo Lake was dry a few days ago, and an impoundment area on the upstream end only had a couple of small ponds with anything in them. The impoundment area is covered with water now, and maybe 2 feet higher than last week. Two more feet and the water from the wetland heads to the lake itself.
Can't wait to see it. Lake has been dry, except for brief periods of a little bit of water, for decades.
That's awesome. I can't remember a time when there was much water there at all. I
Can you see my Facebook? Lots of pics there. Guy named Brady Kendrick from Canyon has also been posting pics.
I'm pretty sure I'm FB friends with your mom
I'm pretty sure I'm FB friends with your mom
1.25" in Concan last night with some pretty loud thunderstorms at 2:30am. It is greener out here than I have seen in several years.
You cannot imagine the way pastures have greened up over the last 6 weeks. We feel very blessed to be "on schedule" now for annual rainfall.
If we can get some crops in the ground, life will be amazing.
It's so beautiful to see the ground "come back to life".
If we can get some crops in the ground, life will be amazing.
It's so beautiful to see the ground "come back to life".
Damn I must've been passed out real good completely missed this
I'm not on FB. Wife is so I'll snoop around and find it.
Will try to get some photos later. Buffalo Lake NWR is filling the lake for the first time in maybe 50 years. Still a long, long way from significant water levels, but fascinating
With regards to the comment on "normal" rainfall and most of the time being feast or famine - one just has to look at how quickly the country side can go from looking like hell to a jungle to know this land has known a drought or two.
Medina Lake is still only ~5% full.
What a stupid lake.
It's going to take a hurricane or something…
What a stupid lake.
It's going to take a hurricane or something…
Nice to see a sunbow out today in Sterling County.
Lake Mackenzie in Texas Panhandle east of Tulia, up 9 feet in the last week.
Buffalo Lake, in the Buffalo Lake National Wildlife Refuge, southwest of Canyon, has been virtually dry since the lake was drained in 1978. A flood that year lead to concerns the dam was flawed. It was rebuilt in 1992, but has not had significant inflow until a flash flood in the Hereford, Texas area this week.
Noon on May 27, 2023
Six in the evening, May 28, 2023
Buffalo Lake, in the Buffalo Lake National Wildlife Refuge, southwest of Canyon, has been virtually dry since the lake was drained in 1978. A flood that year lead to concerns the dam was flawed. It was rebuilt in 1992, but has not had significant inflow until a flash flood in the Hereford, Texas area this week.
Noon on May 27, 2023
Six in the evening, May 28, 2023
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