I have a lot of opinions about time travel, as is suggested by the Q thread.
I'd prefer to have this discussion there.
I'd prefer to have this discussion there.
This thread is more about the physics and viability of time travel. If you have something about time travel that relates to Q, go ahead and post it in the Q thread.Redstone said:
I have a lot of opinions about time travel, as is suggested by the Q thread.
I'd prefer to have this discussion there.
Thanks for the suggestion.TexAgs91 said:
If anyone is looking for a good time travel movie, I recommend Primer. The timelines are so twisted you will have to take notes while watching it.
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Tesla was the Serbian god of Lightning. He re-invented the way people view electricity. His inventions are legendary. He caused a man made lightening storm. He created an earthquake in NYC. He supplied Colorado Springs with wireless electricity in the 1890s. At the same time as cattle drives, he had widescale production of a technology we still don't have today.
He invented 3 phase electronics to get a raise and Edison fired him and stole the invention. He has similar stories. Similar stories of getting screwed over by Westinghouse and J P Morgan. Eventually, he gave up on dealing with industrialist and became a hermit. That was around 1906. He spent the next 40 years in isolation working on redefining the scientific understanding of gravity, time space continuum, relativity, and magnetism.
Upon his death, his notes were seized by J Edgar Hoover, but since Hoover wasn't a genius electrical engineer he needed someone to review and translate them. So Hoover got an MIT professor specializing in High Voltage applications to study Tesla's notes. That professor was John Trump.
A few years later, John Trump and Robert Van de Graaff (of generator fame) formed the High Voltage Engineering Coorporation. John Trump passed away in 1985. Donald John Trump has often cited that he was close with his namesake uncle.
I'm skeptical of this time travel talk, but if anyone could have discovered time travel, Telsa is a leading candidate. If Telsa discovered it, John Trump would have learned about it. If I was John Trump and I would be very careful what information I would have given it to J Edgar Hoover, but I may not have wanted those secrets erased from history either. It's not far fetched that at the end of his life, he may have divulged some secrets to a close relative.
Redstone said:
Understood.
It's important to consider a "meta" issue: our materialist lens.
If we are embodied spirits, if we are woven into a reality where the Ultimate Reality is a Person, and if God relates to us via the Sacramental physical (the Apostolic, or Catholic / Orthodox, view) ...
then
The realities of another "dimension" - such as floating above the body after death and detailing conversations and objects on a roof, as has happened in many hundreds of documented cases of the once clinically dead - must be speculated about.
Which opens up a lot to think through outside of the confines of materialist physics, including inter-dimensional travel.
Replace drugs with language...the director is working on Dune now.CrottyKid said:
This is some interesting and crazy sounding stuff!
Could we learn to "remember" the future? Could we take drugs that would open the ability to remember the future? This sounds like a movie script.
Redstone said:
The idea would be that time is a creation by a Being outside of time, and that a spirit is not of time but can enter it. "Travel," therefore, by a disembodied spirit is intention (assuming allowance by the Being).
Second, regarding interstellar travel
Is it possible alien intelligence can generate a gravitational field, and then use that field to distort space / time? By "bringing" destination to source, bypassing linear understanding?
I don't know. But our understanding of physics underwent a radical overhaul about a century ago, didn't it?
You're describing a wormhole, which Einstein theorized on as part of General Relativity (and is a favorite of Sci-Fi authors). As I recall from my physics classes in college (it's been a while, so forgive me if I'm wrong), its creation would require matter with negative density which currently only exists on the theoretical side of physics.Redstone said:
The idea would be that time is a creation by a Being outside of time, and that a spirit is not of time but can enter it. "Travel," therefore, by a disembodied spirit is intention (assuming allowance by the Being).
Second, regarding interstellar travel
Is it possible alien intelligence can generate a gravitational field, and then use that field to distort space / time? By "bringing" destination to source, bypassing linear understanding?
I don't know. But our understanding of physics underwent a radical overhaul about a century ago, didn't it?
You assume the traveler would be in a form we can recognize or communicate withSilky Johnston said:
I am a certified moron, but if time travel were possible, we would have already met or have recorded history of said time traveler.
Quad Dog said:
I just traveled forward in time at the rate of 1 second per second reading this post and still have no idea what the point was.
This has been proven: https://www.wired.com/2014/11/time-dilation/MW03 said:
Could you say that time travel into the future, as it's conceived thematically anyway, is more than theoretically possible but actually technically confirmed? It's not significant enough to matter, but at least from a mathematical standpoint, would you say a person living on the ISS for a year, and then returning back to Earth, is actually returning to an Earth that is actually older, if only technically.
For example, if you have two people born in the same hospital to the nanosecond, and one of them goes on to become an astronaut and live on the ISS for a year, then return home, isn't it true that the one who stayed on earth would be older by a couple of milliseconds compared to the person who was in space? So in a way, that person "travelled through time" from their perspective, because they arrived to find things further in the future than they would otherwise expect if based only on their perception alone.
So travelling forward is not only possible; it is factual.
Also, can you take that to its logical absurdity and say that everyone is travelling forward through time constantly? The person walking, relative to the person sitting, relative to the person on the train, in the jet liner, etc are all experiencing some so-small-as-to-be-no-observable-but-nevertheless-present time dilation compared to a stationary observer, all at different intervals? Even if it's one billionth of one billionth of a second, theoretically, it's happening, correct?
Are you a fan of loop quantum gravity?lb3 said:
I'm partial to the theory that we're living in a sim.
Schrodinger's cat is just like in a video game that doesn't render distant plants or foliage until you approach. Due to limits of the system running our sim the really small stuff in our universe doesn't get rendered until we decide to take a peek.
Planck time and distance are likewise just the step intervals or distances calculated during each clock cycle in the sim.
As for time travel, this theory would make time travel both trivially simple for the sim's creator to implement but impossible for those of us living in it to create because we will never be able to assemble enough memory (data storage) to recreate the entire sim universe within our existing sim.
That is not correct. The closer you are to a gravitational source, the slower time goes. GPS satellites compensate for this. If they compensated for this according to general relativity, and it were not true, then GPS positioning would be off by as much as 11km.caleblyn said:
All time progresses at the same rate. It is not possible to make time go faster. The speed of time is constant. Time will always move at the same rate. Therefore, the quote above, "I just traveled forward in time at the rate of 1 second per second...," is correct and always will be.
TexAgs91 said:That is not correct. The closer you are to a gravitational source, the slower time goes. GPS satellites compensate for this. If they compensated for this according to general relativity, and it were not true, then GPS positioning would be off by as much as 11km.caleblyn said:
All time progresses at the same rate. It is not possible to make time go faster. The speed of time is constant. Time will always move at the same rate. Therefore, the quote above, "I just traveled forward in time at the rate of 1 second per second...," is correct and always will be.
Bradley.Kohr.II said:
A) I thought quantum communication was proven possible - by measuring the spin, the spin could be flipped on the remote entangled particle. I think UT was working on this.
I admit that research is ChiCom so lots of BS is to be expected, but they also have a strong commitment to global conquest right now, and this would tie into that.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-shatters-ldquo-spooky-action-at-a-distance-rdquo-record-preps-for-quantum-internet/
B) Time travel, as in getting to go see dinosaurs etc isn't happening. I suppose a faster than light traveler could try to see reflections from long enough ago.
C) Predicting lotto balls is the same as meteorology. Same math, different scale, but not "seeing" the future.
Going into the future seems difficult but not impossible because it's just a matter of leaving time/space, it reversing entropy.