We've been discussing time travel in the Q anon thread in politics, which obviously doesn't belong in politics. The problem is there really isn't any board on texags that's ideally suited for physics (and space travel) discussions. I recognize that The Nerdery is more about tech discussions, but I guess this is the closest match, and the general board is a circus. If it shouldn't go here then I re-request the mods create a science/physics/rocketry type board.
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Bobcat06 said:
Tesla was the Serbian god of Lightning. He re-invented the way people view electricity. His inventions are legendary. He caused a man made lightening storm. He created an earthquake in NYC. He supplied Colorado Springs with wireless electricity in the 1890s. At the same time as cattle drives, he had widescale production of a technology we still don't have today.
He invented 3 phase electronics to get a raise and Edison fired him and stole the invention. He has similar stories. Similar stories of getting screwed over by Westinghouse and J P Morgan. Eventually, he gave up on dealing with industrialist and became a hermit. That was around 1906. He spent the next 40 years in isolation working on redefining the scientific understanding of gravity, time space continuum, relativity, and magnetism.
Upon his death, his notes were seized by J Edgar Hoover, but since Hoover wasn't a genius electrical engineer he needed someone to review and translate them. So Hoover got an MIT professor specializing in High Voltage applications to study Tesla's notes. That professor was John Trump.
A few years later, John Trump and Robert Van de Graaff (of generator fame) formed the High Voltage Engineering Coorporation. John Trump passed away in 1985. Donald John Trump has often cited that he was close with his namesake uncle.
I'm skeptical of this time travel talk, but if anyone could have discovered time travel, Telsa is a leading candidate. If Telsa discovered it, John Trump would have learned about it. If I was John Trump and I would be very careful what information I would have given it to J Edgar Hoover, but I may not have wanted those secrets erased from history either. It's not far fetched that at the end of his life, he may have divulged some secrets to a close relative.
CrottyKid said:
I am just playing along here. I believe any time distortion to be so miniscule as to not qualify as time travel.
BUT, what if Einstein was only mostly right about relativity? What if he had the concept right, but our physics rules are wrong? What if Tesla was better or more accurate?
PMC2012 said:
If y'all care to ponder time travel in all of this context I would say do not think of it in the sense as back to the future. Time travel for people or objects is probably not possible. However time travel for information is much more likely. You do not need to send someone into the past or future merely the information one would want. This makes the task of time travel much easier. Information can be encoded in many ways. Ie Morse code with lights on boats in the middle of the sea. If you were to be able to accelerate that light being used to send Morse code even a fraction quicker you'd be time traveling information.
But I do not think that is what's at play here. The looking glass gets its name from Alice in wonderland or something like that. We already know hrc has a creep friend she would email that likes to go by the Mad Hatter.
TexAgs91 said:
Tesla has a cult following and some people now believe his capabilities are magical. Meanwhile, Einstein's Relativity and General Relativity have been tested in such extreme conditions in reality that although no serious scientist is prepared to say Einstein is 100% correct, he is 100% correct in environments and energies all the way from the ordinary to energy levels equivalent to within fractions of a second after the Big Bang.
It's possible to go forward in time by travelling at significant fractions of the speed of light or near large gravitational sources like black holes or neutron stars.
Time travel back in time is sort of possible. But it involves entering a wormhole and exiting the other end of the wormhole which is orbiting a black hole near the speed of light and then travelling back in normal space back to the entrance of the wormhole at close to the speed of light which would only allow you to travel back in time enough to see yourself enter the black hole, but not far enough back to prevent yourself from entering the black hole and cause any paradox.
Travelling significantly forward in time can be achieved within 100 years or so. Traveling semi-backwards in time as described above will not be possible to do for probably millennia, if ever, and would gain you hardly anything.
It is extremely doubtful that Tesla has achieved anything that put anything Einstein's equations regarding time travel in question.
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TexAgs91 said:
With quantum mechanics, it is possible to send information instantly. But you wouldn't be able to understand it without additional information required to decipher it. That information can only be sent at the speed of light.
Bobcat06 said:
This subject of Einstein's hypocrisy has been beaten to death, but it needs to be addressed here.
Einstein's work on relativity was made possible by Michelson and Morley debunking the concept of a luminiferous aether. Luminiferous aether was the idea that electromagnetic waves (e.g. light) could only propagate in certain medium.
However, when confronted with the relativistic nature of gravity, Einstein is painted into a corner. So to explain relativistic nature of gravity, Einstein invents a brand new concept: the time-space continuum.
I believe in relativity, but I'm skeptical in some of the explanations. The time-space continuum is flawed in the same reason that luminiferous aether is. Space has no properties.
TexAgs91 said:
Are you saying you believe in relativity but not general relativity? Without properties of spacetime, general relativity (which has been tested with a high degree of accuracy) falls apart.
Why can you draw only 3 lines at 90 degrees to each other? Because of the properties of space. Why do the angles of a triangle NOT add up to 180 degrees in the vicinity of black holes? Because of the properties of spacetime. Spacetime has properties of dimensions, curvature and energy density. This has been thoroughly confirmed. Frame dragging is one effect of the properties of spacetime.
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