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We fired Jake Moreland TE coach
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texasaggie2015 said:


I think Freeling's stock skyrockets as we get closer to the draft, really talented player, potential franchise tackle

Miller is the monster on the interior that we need

Tiernan was sort of the best player available here. Good upside and can either play tackle or guard (and possibly play guard at an elite level)

Price gives us a sparkplug out of the backfield who can also contribute on ST

Stowers gives Stroud a weapon at TE.. I think his best football is ahead of him as he's still not played a ton of TE but I love the upside as a recieving threat.

Rodriguez was a monster at Tech and plays with a mentality that DeMeco would love.

Dell's health is a question mark and Kirk might be gone. Burks fits in nicely in the slot. Big time playmaking ability.

Benny is another big interior DL who would be a project but could contribute down the road.

Thoughts?

I'm curious whether or not the Texans think they need a tackle. If so, Freeling or several other players make sense in the first round. Trent Brown did a pretty good job for them, and that unit with Tytus at LG was clearly their best OL group. However, at his age and body type, I don't think you can count on Brown being anything more than a solid reserve player. I'm just curious if they want to flip Tytus back to right tackle and sign/draft interior offensive linemen, OR leave Tytus at guard and draft a big physical right tackle. Personally, I'm moving Tytus back outside and investing heavily on the interior, but I'm not Caserio.

I like most of your picks, but I think a lot of those guys are unlikely to last that long. Specifically, I don't think Stowers or Rodriguez are there on Day 3, and if they are, they won't be there for long.

I did a few of these mock drafts the other day and, as a Texans fan, I found it frustrating. We're drafting 28, our biggest needs are offensive line and running back, and there aren't any running backs or interior offensive linemen who seem like a good value at 28.

Unless you can sign Kenneth Walker, I might be tempted to package a few picks and move into the top 10 to get Jeremiah Love. We all know Caserio has no problem moving up if there is a player he really wants (Will Anderson).
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Our Texans Bingo Triumvirate has each been paid their handsome bounty of $83.33.

My message to the rest of you: Try harder next year, losers

And now in Memoriam, the best of CJ Stroud in the playoffs

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Snake Jazz said:

texasaggie2015 said:


I think Freeling's stock skyrockets as we get closer to the draft, really talented player, potential franchise tackle

Miller is the monster on the interior that we need

Tiernan was sort of the best player available here. Good upside and can either play tackle or guard (and possibly play guard at an elite level)

Price gives us a sparkplug out of the backfield who can also contribute on ST

Stowers gives Stroud a weapon at TE.. I think his best football is ahead of him as he's still not played a ton of TE but I love the upside as a recieving threat.

Rodriguez was a monster at Tech and plays with a mentality that DeMeco would love.

Dell's health is a question mark and Kirk might be gone. Burks fits in nicely in the slot. Big time playmaking ability.

Benny is another big interior DL who would be a project but could contribute down the road.

Thoughts?

I'm curious whether or not the Texans think they need a tackle. If so, Freeling or several other players make sense in the first round. Trent Brown did a pretty good job for them, and that unit with Tytus at LG was clearly their best OL group. However, at his age and body type, I don't think you can count on Brown being anything more than a solid reserve player. I'm just curious if they want to flip Tytus back to right tackle and sign/draft interior offensive linemen, OR leave Tytus at guard and draft a big physical right tackle. Personally, I'm moving Tytus back outside and investing heavily on the interior, but I'm not Caserio.

I like most of your picks, but I think a lot of those guys are unlikely to last that long. Specifically, I don't think Stowers or Rodriguez are there on Day 3, and if they are, they won't be there for long.

I did a few of these mock drafts the other day and, as a Texans fan, I found it frustrating. We're drafting 28, our biggest needs are offensive line and running back, and there aren't any running backs or interior offensive linemen who seem like a good value at 28.

Unless you can sign Kenneth Walker, I might be tempted to package a few picks and move into the top 10 to get Jeremiah Love. We all know Caserio has no problem moving up if there is a player he really wants (Will Anderson).

I think if we're keeping Howard on the team we just go BPA with Tackle or Guard at 28. I think Howard helped out Ersery a lot when he was next to him, so I could see us going that direction. Big question mark is Ingram at RG, he was cheap last year and is a FA, not sure if we'll be able to afford him and upgrade at center (which is the biggest need). So a lot depends on what our plan is on who we decide to keep.

I think the rest of the draft is just BPA, or grab more picks next year.

For RB, I like Price at RB, along with Kaytron Allen, and some others that should be available in the 4th round, but I don't think we should be picking a RB in the first 3 rounds unless we love him and he fits perfectly.

Top places I see us investing in with the draft are
  • o-line (BPA, we could draft any position)
  • interior d-line (need to get younger)
  • RB (need more depth and age/talent upgrade)
  • Safety (DeMeco is going to have turnover soon with contracts so I bet he starts looking to get new blood)
  • QB (if we do follow the patriot way, then we should be looking at getting a QB this year, and there are a lot of guys that could be available in the mid rounds that have promise, like a Drew Allar)
  • BPA
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texasaggie2015 said:


I think Freeling's stock skyrockets as we get closer to the draft, really talented player, potential franchise tackle

Miller is the monster on the interior that we need

Tiernan was sort of the best player available here. Good upside and can either play tackle or guard (and possibly play guard at an elite level)

Price gives us a sparkplug out of the backfield who can also contribute on ST

Stowers gives Stroud a weapon at TE.. I think his best football is ahead of him as he's still not played a ton of TE but I love the upside as a recieving threat.

Rodriguez was a monster at Tech and plays with a mentality that DeMeco would love.

Dell's health is a question mark and Kirk might be gone. Burks fits in nicely in the slot. Big time playmaking ability.

Benny is another big interior DL who would be a project but could contribute down the road.

Thoughts?

Your mock shares a lot of what I'm thinking going into the draft. With their first three picks, which include two in the second round, I can see them taking two offensive linemen and a DT. There's also a few RB's I really like in this draft that I think are undervalued because they've been splitting carries with other guys and Price is one of them. If he wasn't splitting carries with Love I believe he'd have a lot more buzz going into the draft. I'm also a fan of both of the Penn State RB's, Singleton and Allen, who each went over 1k yards last season. If either one of them was the sole RB there they would be higher up the boards.

This is not a good draft for TE, I could see Caserio looking into free agency to fill that role because I don't think there's many guys that can come in and contribute immediately. I could see them adding a LB and Rodriguez is great on the field but might not test well at the combine which could make him available on day 3.

I'm sure they'll give Dell the opportunity to get back on the field, but there's no certainty given how severe his injury was. They might be optimistic about Noel if Kirk leaves but they'll probably add a veteran and there should be some guys available who won't be very expensive. This draft has a lot of prospects around 6' and under with high-end speed so this is a good draft to grab a best available WR on day 3 who fits that role.
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the 28th overall pick looks like BPA
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Our Texans Bingo Triumvirate has each been paid their handsome bounty of $83.33.

My message to the rest of you: Try harder next year, losers

And now in Memoriam, the best of CJ Stroud in the playoffs




Well said
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47769172/2026-nfl-offseason-extension-contract-predictions-lions-texans-rams-falcons-cowboys#hou

This is an article with a few offseason predictions regarding the pending extensions of eligible players. These are not necessarily free agents, just players who are eligible to sign extensions which include Stroud and WAJ. The author's prediction for Stroud is $224MM over 4 years ($56MM annually) with $110MM in guarantees. WAJ's prediction is $176MM over 4 years ($44MM annually) with $121MM in guarantees.

$56MM annually would put Stroud second behind only Dak Prescott. Love, Lawrence, Burrow, and Allen are all at $55MM annually. $110MM in guaranteed money would be 8th in the league, tied with Jalen Hurts. I don't know whether Caserio would rather get him on the books for a manageable amount of guaranteed money or hold off at the risk of paying more down the road. The guy was great his rookie year but steadily regressed. Gut feeling is they'll try to improve the offensive line and make him prove he's worth the extension and they'll just pick up his 5th year option this offseason unless he's willing to take even less than this prediction. After his playoff performances I don't see them taking any action beyond picking up the 5th year option.

They'll get a deal done with WAJ this offseason, guaranteed. The only edge rushers making $40MM+ per year are Garrett ($40MM), Watt ($41MM), Hutchinson ($45MM), and Parsons ($46.5MM). Putting his annual salary anywhere between Garrett and Parsons makes sense and his guarantees at $121MM would make him the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL. That $121MM would be added to what is left on his rookie deal. Parsons is 27 and WAJ is 25 so I think that would also make WAJ the youngest player in the NFL to be the highest paid non-QB in league history but I didn't do enough research to confirm, it's just a hunch.
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Dak and the Cowboys is the classic example of stuck in "good" -- cannot get to "great"

2 playoff wins in 10 years -- woof

the Texans must avoid making the same mistake
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Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.
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I think the big question is will Stroud and Mulugheta hold out until he gets an extension.

Will they start sitting out on some of these optional offseason workouts and what not?
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Ag_07 said:

I think the big question is will Stroud and Mulugheta hold out until he gets an extension.

Will they start sitting out on some of these optional offseason workouts and what not?


That's a good way to not get the 5th year. Texans have to play hard ball. Stroud has zero negotiating power.
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JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.



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I'm not sure that Jerry is THAT dumb. It won't hurt to ask though. Maybe you catch him before he takes his daily dose of Prevagen.
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Yeah. I just looked at Dak's numbers. He's been better than I thought. A straight up trade wouldn't get it done. But the cowboys aren't going anywhere right now and his contract inhibits their ability to sign guys. If they don't think they can win it all in the next 3 years, there's an argument that they should get what they can for him and start the rebuild. Despite his play of late, I would think CJ still has some trade value as a young QB who has had some bright spots.
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JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

This would be about the dumbest thing ever. No. Hell no. Old, overrated and overpaid. Stroud may never fulfill his full potential, but I would much rather bet on his future.

Can you imagine if you made this ridiculous move and Stroud ends up being who he looked like as a rookie? Do you really want to be the franchise that gives Jerry a lifeline? Hell no.
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JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

I would 100% do this deal, but I don't believe the Cowboys would.
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Snake Jazz said:

JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

This would be about the dumbest thing ever. No. Hell no. Old, overrated and overpaid. Stroud may never fulfill his full potential, but I would much rather bet on his future.

Can you imagine if you made this ridiculous move and Stroud ends up being who he looked like as a rookie? Do you really want to be the franchise that gives Jerry a lifeline? Hell no.


In a vacuum, I can see your argument. But we're not in a vacuum. We have a Super Bowl caliber team except for the QB (and some tinkering on the OL). And we probably have about 2 years before the D starts to fall off because we can't afford to keep them all. To me, maximizing your odds of winning the Super Bowl in that window should be your biggest priority, because these windows don't come around that often.
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JCA1 said:

Snake Jazz said:

JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

This would be about the dumbest thing ever. No. Hell no. Old, overrated and overpaid. Stroud may never fulfill his full potential, but I would much rather bet on his future.

Can you imagine if you made this ridiculous move and Stroud ends up being who he looked like as a rookie? Do you really want to be the franchise that gives Jerry a lifeline? Hell no.


In a vacuum, I can see your argument. But we're not in a vacuum. We have a Super Bowl caliber team except for the QB (and some tinkering on the OL). And we probably have about 2 years before the D starts to fall off because we can't afford to keep them all. To me, maximizing your odds of winning the Super Bowl in that window should be your biggest priority, because these windows don't come around that often.

I see your point, but I don't care for Dak and probably wouldn't want him even if he suddenly became a free agent. One of the more overrated players in the league, and only gets the attention he gets because of the franchise he plays for. If you were talking about Lamar, I might agree with you.
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Snake Jazz said:

JCA1 said:

Snake Jazz said:

JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

This would be about the dumbest thing ever. No. Hell no. Old, overrated and overpaid. Stroud may never fulfill his full potential, but I would much rather bet on his future.

Can you imagine if you made this ridiculous move and Stroud ends up being who he looked like as a rookie? Do you really want to be the franchise that gives Jerry a lifeline? Hell no.


In a vacuum, I can see your argument. But we're not in a vacuum. We have a Super Bowl caliber team except for the QB (and some tinkering on the OL). And we probably have about 2 years before the D starts to fall off because we can't afford to keep them all. To me, maximizing your odds of winning the Super Bowl in that window should be your biggest priority, because these windows don't come around that often.

I see your point, but I don't care for Dak and probably wouldn't want him even if he suddenly became a free agent. One of the more overrated players in the league, and only gets the attention he gets because of the franchise he plays for. If you were talking about Lamar, I might agree with you.

Dak was better than Lamar Jackson last season. Dak is a much better passer and would be a better fit for this offense than Lamar. Lamar can only take you so far and then his inability to be a downfield passer or make throws in the pocket leads to a 2nd or 3rd round playoff loss.

Dak was great last season, he just had zero defense. The Texans have the best defense in the league. Perfect fit IMO but it won't happen.
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JCA1 said:

Here's a thought experiment. Would you trade CJ for Dak? As the team is built to win now, bringing in an above-average QB would likely make us one of the favorites over the next 2 years. Dak has a big contract but only has 3 years left, which would likely work out well with our other big contracts that are tacked onto the end of rookie deals. On their end, Dallas would get cap relief and a once-promising young QB to see if they can rehabilitate.

The last post made me think of this and not even sure where I fall. But I do think that, with our D, we have a window over the next 2 or so years (before all these guys have to be paid) and an argument can definitely be made that we should do whatever we can to maximize it.

Before the playoffs, and maybe even before the New England game, I'd say no way. Dak also has had plenty of struggles in big moments. But Stroud was just so incredibly bad this postseason. I don't know. It's not a fun position to be in, particularly with contract stuff coming up.
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superaggie73 said:

Ag_07 said:

I think the big question is will Stroud and Mulugheta hold out until he gets an extension.

Will they start sitting out on some of these optional offseason workouts and what not?


That's a good way to not get the 5th year. Texans have to play hard ball. Stroud has zero negotiating power.


True

But if it gets CJ that new extension he's wanting somewhere else I don't think that option is off the table.
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Ag_07 said:

superaggie73 said:

Ag_07 said:

I think the big question is will Stroud and Mulugheta hold out until he gets an extension.

Will they start sitting out on some of these optional offseason workouts and what not?


That's a good way to not get the 5th year. Texans have to play hard ball. Stroud has zero negotiating power.


True

But if it gets CJ that new extension he's wanting somewhere else I don't think that option is off the table.


I was thinking about trade scenarios and was wondering if a team like Miami or NO would be willing to offer a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Stroud and we pick up Cousins.
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If the Texans extend Stroud to a max contract based on his career, then they're idiots.

He needs to show he won't go dumb ass in the playoffs.

If he had not turned the ball over, they may still be playing.

With this defense, we just need a game manager.
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Have we talked about this yet? Honestly, even though it's dumb, this gave me a flicker of hope. For me, the mopey, non-leader, version of CJ was exasperated by his locks, and I've always wished he would lop off the braids.

If nothing else, it could be a signal he realizes some changes need to be made.

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Yoda said:

Have we talked about this yet? Honestly, even though it's dumb, this gave me a flicker of hope. For me, the mooey, non-leader, version of CJ was exasperated by his locks, and I've always wished he would lop off the braids.

If nothing else, it could be a signal he realizes some changes need to be made.




While I agree, dude looks like he's 12 years old now.
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Yoda said:

Have we talked about this yet? Honestly, even though it's dumb, this gave me a flicker of hope. For me, the mooey, non-leader, version of CJ was exasperated by his locks, and I've always wished he would lop off the braids.

If nothing else, it could be a signal he realizes some changes need to be made.




Dude...He got a haircut
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Stoutland out after 13 seasons in Philly.
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maca1028 said:


Stoutland out after 13 seasons in Philly.


Wow! He's a stud coach. He didn't say he was done coaching…just done with Philly. I wonder where he's headed.
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My feelings wouldn't be hurt if he came here.but I doubt that happens.
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Make it happen Texans!
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Ag_07 said:

Yoda said:

Have we talked about this yet? Honestly, even though it's dumb, this gave me a flicker of hope. For me, the mooey, non-leader, version of CJ was exasperated by his locks, and I've always wished he would lop off the braids.

If nothing else, it could be a signal he realizes some changes need to be made.




Dude...He got a haircut

"Look good, feel good, play good"

Won't matter what he feels like, he just doesn't have it.
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If getting a haircut is what gives you a flicker of hope guess what?

There is no hope.
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