redag06 said:
He led with his forearm. It was a cheap shot!
redag06 said:
He led with his forearm. It was a cheap shot!
pagerman @ work said:redag06 said:
He led with his forearm. It was a cheap shot!
It was cheap-ish. But not that long ago that would have been called football.
The sliding rules for QBs are stupid and allow QBs to slide at the last second to avoid contact.
All the handwringing overwrought histrionics on the broadcast and to an extent here are a bit much.
redag06 said:
He led with his forearm. It was a cheap shot!
Frok said:
I do agree the Internet reaction to that hit is a bit much. But the Internet is gonna Internet.
I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
Daddy-O5 said:I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
Daddy-O5 said:I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
Why is anyone surprised by Azeez Al-Shaiir?
— Mike Meltser (@MikeMeltser) December 1, 2024
He’s Vontaze Burfict lite. If you don’t want it, don’t sign him.
This is who he has always been, and I say this with no emotion either way.
Cynic said:Daddy-O5 said:I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
This guy is uber-dramatic in every post he makes
Cynic said:Daddy-O5 said:I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
This guy is uber-dramatic in every post he makes
pagerman @ work said:Daddy-O5 said:I’ve been covering the NFL for 48 years and I can’t remember a cheap shot worse than what Al-Shaair did to Lawrence. He’ll be lucky to avoid a suspension.
— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) December 1, 2024
So is this John announcing he has memory issues?
NFL Films used to put them into a compilation and sell them with titles like "The NFL's Biggest Hits of the 80s".
You'd assume McClain was there in '12 when Schaub lost part of his ear on a hit.Triple S said:
Today's hit was not even top 20….. it just looked bad.
McClain in a tool and a drama queen.
BQRyno said:
Agree completely. And as has been said above, the current rules for how a qb takes himself out of the play leaves him completely exposed to a defender flying at him full speed. It hasn't been thought through very well.
Commanders can't be the 3 seed with Eagles as the 2...NFC South winner (currently Falcons) would be the #4 seed right nowThe Porkchop Express said:
Current AFC projected playoff matchups
#1 Chiefs - bye
#2 Bills vs. #7 Broncos
#3 Steelers vs. #Ravens
#4 Texans vs. #5 Chargers
This is a total mishmash right now because the Texans and Ravens have played 13 games and everyone else has played 12.
The top 4 seeds are probably locked in. Chiefs are 11-1, Bills 10-2, Steelers an amazing 9-3, Texans 8-5
Chargers 8-4, Ravens 8-5, Broncos 7-5
The Colts are 6-7, the Dolphins are 5-7, everyone else is at least 4 games under .500.
If things stayed the way they are right now, it would probably be the Texans' best route for any sort of success.
The current NFC matchups if you're interested.
#1 Lions - bye
#2 Eagles vs. #7 Bucs/Ras/Falcons/Cardinals (all 6-6)
#3 Commanders vs. #6 Packers
#4 Seahawks vs. #5 Vikings
At this point the 10-2 Vikings and 9-3 Packers would both be road teams in the wild card round against 8-5 Washington and 7-5 Seattle.
Sadly the 5-7 Niners and Cowboys are technically a game out of the playoff chase.
What Al-Shaair did was completely beyond the pale, but your point about Mahomes and Allen to me brings up the bigger issue which is those two guys generally don't behave like they're going to give themselves up once they start running. Mahomes in particular does this thing while he's running that makes it look like he's going to slide, but then he doesn't and the defenders don't hit him because of the way he runs. Allen is the king of the QBs who look like they're running out of bounds, but then he doesn't. I guarantee that's in the back of the mind of a lot of defenders who have a shot at a running QB. I don't think Lawrence is one of those guys, also the way he was hit was dirty, it's not like he was wrapping up a guy who started to slide, it was way more intense than that.Texan_Aggie said:
The problem with these late hits is that for some QBs, it's very obvious when they're giving themselves up.
Then you have the QBs like Mahomes and Allen who will fake running out of bounds or sliding and then pick up extra yards because the defense doesn't hit them.
It was definitely a late hit, which I think looked worse in real time w/ emotions than it actually was, but the NFL has to make this sort of play more obvious and even for both offense and defense. I don't know what that looks like, but I get wanting to hit the QB given the fakeouts that have started to become more common.
Other rule that needs to be adjusted is offsetting penalties. I have never understood why a team can commit a hold and the defense get a ruffing the passer and a DPI, and they all offset and you replay the down. Clearly not all penalties are the same, especially given some are pre-snap, during the play, and after the play.
