I don't even want to turn on a sports talk show. I'm sure the Cowboys are the getting laughed at on every platform/show this morning.

I haven't studied the cap situation but it seems to me that teams all over the league get out of cap hell often. Unless someone corrects me with some data, I'm not going to buy cap hell as a reason to not move forward. Obviously, the biggest issue is Dak and what to do. I want to hold off until the anger goes away before I make too many comments about Dak.

Didn't Philly go to the SB the very next year after eating Wentz cap money?

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I haven't studied the cap situation but it seems to me that teams all over the league get out of cap hell often. Unless someone corrects me with some data, I'm not going to buy cap hell as a reason to not move forward. Obviously, the biggest issue is Dak and what to do. I want to hold off until the anger goes away before I make too many comments about Dak.

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Most likely Dak gets a 2 year extension to spread out the cap hit and they seriously consider drafting a developmental QB to sit behind him for a year or two

Remember Johnny in his last game against Duke? (I believe it was Duke). When the camera caught him raving on the sidelines to get him the ball back. Just get him the ****in ball back and we were going to go win this thing. You have to have that.

Johnny ain't a NFL QB, but he had that. And that is what it takes to win.

Joe Burrow is that dude, Patrick Mahomes is that dude. Brees, Manning, Brady... Even Jalen Hurts has some of that in him. It's why the stories of him from the first day he stepped into the Eagles facilities were "this dude is different. He has a long way to go but if there was ever a dude that was gonna figure it out, it's him."

Even Baker Mayfield is that dude. He lacks the talent, but damnit he ain't going to stop swinging until you cut his arms off, stick a stake up his ass and start roasting him on a fire. All you hear from Cleveland and TB is how much his teammates love him.

Dak may try to be, but he goes out there and throws a bad pick when we need him to execute on that drive more than any other drive. You cant throw that pick. You have to score a touchdown and then you have to be on the sideline telling your defense that if they do their damn jobs we're going to win this game.

Edit: That's my last Dak comment. Sorry. I was watching old highlights earlier and it upset me again. I'm on to 2024 starting now.

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With the success of Dan Campbell, I guarantee you that Jerry will push to interview Witten.

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Just because they are both former TEs? Dan Campbell has been in coaching in the NFL since 2010 and clearly had made a name for himself in those circles. Best I can tell Witten has been coaching high school for a few years to spend more time with his kids.

Someone sends me this multiple times a year with our current stage.

This is probably the most sensible thing to do, but I still think you'd have to trade off some assets to do it. Go out and get the biggest, strongest arm QB with some athleticism you can find.

Yea and it's Jerry so high school success is all he needs to create a headline saying that he is interviewing him.

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I haven't studied the cap situation but it seems to me that teams all over the league get out of cap hell often. Unless someone corrects me with some data, I'm not going to buy cap hell as a reason to not move forward. Obviously, the biggest issue is Dak and what to do. I want to hold off until the anger goes away before I make too many comments about Dak.

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I'm no cap expert either... but we've renegotiated a crap ton of contracts pushing cap money down the road. We even redid Gallups deal to free up cash before the season.

Daks contract is a complete mess... he's got 1 or 2 years of voidable years in his current deal. Why are those in his contract? So they could free up cap space, that's why. There's no actual contract money in those years, they are nothing but empty place holders where the Cowboys could spread out and dump salary cap.

Maybe it's par for the course and almost everybody is doing it... but from where I'm sitting, it appears that it's all going to catch up to them very very soon.

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Didn't Philly go to the SB the very next year after eating Wentz cap money?

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Unfortunately this organization doesn't have a Howie Roseman.

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Didn't Philly go to the SB the very next year after eating Wentz cap money?

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Not sure what year it was... but yeah, it can be done when you have another good QB playing under a 2nd round rookie contract. They still had a huge amount of cap dedicated to a Vet QB, they just got fortunate how quickly Hurts developed and they had good coaches that knew exactly what they were doing.

We could do the exact same thing here if Jerry would be a real GM. Fire the coaching staff and trade Micah for the #1 pick and draft a QB. Either trade Dak or let his contract expire (either way we'll have dead cap money to deal with). We still have a good enough core of players to get it done with a young QB if we get the right coaches.

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Didn't Philly go to the SB the very next year after eating Wentz cap money?

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Not sure what year it was... but yeah, it can be done when you have another good QB playing under a 2nd round rookie contract. They still had a huge amount of cap dedicated to a Vet QB, they just got fortunate how quickly Hurts developed and they had good coaches that knew exactly what they were doing.

We could do the exact same thing here if Jerry would be a real GM. Fire the coaching staff and trade Micah for the #1 pick and draft a QB. Either trade Dak or let his contract expire (either way we'll have dead cap money to deal with). We still have a good enough core of players to get it done with a young QB if we get the right coaches.

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Yeah, this was suggested last week and most of us agree Parsons was untouchable, but I'm not there anymore.

As dynamic as the guy can be, teams are starting to figure out how to neutralize him for stretches of games.

I think you HAVE to see what you can get for him. I mean you can't pay him, Dak and CD.

Maybe without Parsons $, you might be able to keep Lawrence who I think is underapprecaited.

the alexander INT was an amazing play. can't fault Dak on that one.

the pick 6 could not have come at a worse time.

when wentz was traded, eagles took biggest dead cap hit ever. $33mm. was 16.34% of cap.

I believe if Dak leaves cap hit would be 24% of cowboys 2024 cap.

so its flushing away 2024 and hoping you get a QB. eagles had hurts on the roster when they traded wentz.

do we think trey lance is the guy? I don't.

I felt the same way.

- That 1st pick was a great play by Alexander. That's why you don't throw at him. Not when the matchup is Cooks/Alexander
- CD should have caught 2 balls including that one over the middle that he dropped. Not on Dak
- The 2nd interception was classic Dak Prescott. And there were 2 others that he threw (1 in the endzone) that hit the guy in the chest and they dropped it.

All of his stats came when they backed off and were playing zone and Dak started finding holes underneath. If they continued to play the defense they started with Dak would have been fired this morning.

Dak looked a lot better late in the game when Detriot starting letting up. There was a lot of garbage time stats and good throws when there was zero pressure

It did look to me when they showed some replays that, at times, GB's coverage was really good and there wasn't a lot of open receivers. It will be interesting to hear Sturm after he's watched the All 22. It's certainly clear that GB had a good plan and got the Cowboys out of rhythm but you would think with solid experienced guys like McCarthy and Shotty, they could adjust better but they were just completely inept.

I think dumping Dak is kinda unrealistic at this point.

As bad as he's been in the post seasons, and as much doubt as many of us have about him, I'm still not ready to say "he absolutely can't" win us a championship .

I do however think this team has a very serious culture problem at the top and they need to bring someone in that is very hard nosed. Not sure who that would be but I don't believe McCarthy is that guy.

Also, they need a formidable presence in both the interior DL and at LB.

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Especially since we would probably not be able to get the return on the trade required to actually trade him, at this point.

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I felt the same way.

- That 1st pick was a great play by Alexander. That's why you don't throw at him. Not when the matchup is Cooks/Alexander
- CD should have caught 2 balls including that one over the middle that he dropped. Not on Dak
- The 2nd interception was classic Dak Prescott. And there were 2 others that he threw (1 in the endzone) that hit the guy in the chest and they dropped it.

All of his stats came when they backed off and were playing zone and Dak started finding holes underneath. If they continued to play the defense they started with Dak would have been fired this morning.

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He should only be evaluated by the 1st half

Ha! Fair enough

You said that and I instantly got flashbacks to the Wade Phillips teams. As much as I disliked Jason Garrett's coaching, his teams were scrappy and never quit

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I think dumping Dak is kinda unrealistic at this point.

As bad as he's been in the post seasons, and as much doubt as many of us have about him, I'm still not ready to say "he absolutely can't" win us a championship .

I do however think this team has a very serious culture problem at the top and they need to bring someone in that is very hard nosed. Not sure who that would be but I don't believe McCarthy is that guy.

Also, they need a formidable presence in both the interior DL and at LB.

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I agree about Dak... but I also don't think signing him to a contract extension is necessarily the best idea either.

I also agree about wholesale coaching changes... bring in the right guy and let him figure out the best way to proceed.

I would also love it for Jerry to fully give the GM reigns to Will McClay, but that's NEVER going to happen.

So you value him based on what others think of him not what we know of him?

That seems ass backwards. Got a hot wife, she doesn't clean, cook, or make money, and seems to fall on someone elses dick every time I turn around, but if I quit her she's going to be someone else's wife so fast...

Wait a year, then don't resign him. Boom. Problem solved.

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I disagree. The cap era is about boom and bust. Look at the 49ers, lions, Eagles or even the Texans. Ride the wave up, blow up the team, and start over. The HOF QBs like Mahomes and Brady are the exceptions. Every other teams shines and then collapses, and the well run teams rise from the ashes. Problem is that Dak is not a HOF Qb, and Jerry will never tank

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But most teams that ride the wave up never actually win a title. And the ones that do often sit in place for years before breaking through.

And no GM ever willingly tanks unless they are taking over at the start of a rebuild. No GM has EVER traded or cut a QB of Dak's caliber at this stage of their career absent significant non-football related factors, like Watson or Rodgers. The closest case is the Lions with Stafford, and he wasn't at the peak of his Lion's tenure AND they got a king's ransom for him.

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you're vastly over crediting Dak and what the league thinks of him. He's average at best and his career has shown that.

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If you cut Dak he'd sign the largest FA contract in history with a team that believe they are a QB away in approximately 12 minutes. That's just the nature of the position in modern football.

There are franchises in this league that haven't had a QB of Prescott's caliber in the entire Super Bowl era.

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Which is why there is a possibility to potentially get a lot of trade value from him, I dont see us just 'cutting him' as somethign that would ever happen or really make any sense.

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Wait a year, then don't resign him. Boom. Problem solved.

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Only half the problem. $36mill is pushed into 2025-26

As long as Dakota Prescott is the QB for the Dallas cowboys this is the best we're going to get. A fantastic regular season with an exit by the divisional round. No chance of sniffing the NFCCG. Zero.

Saying keeping Dak is unrealistic is equivalent to saying making the NFCCG is unrealistic. So what's the move? Accept mediocrity because there's no way we can find another QB? Or admit that what we've done for the past decade isn't working and make some real changes?

Blow. It. Up.

No offense, but I think you're crazy if you believe Dak is the problem here

Unless "Blow it up" means hiring a general manager, it would just be more of the same

No offense taken. It's not all on Dak but he's a large part of the problem. Offer him a team friendly deal knowing he won't take it and move on. No sense thowing good money after bad.

You gotta eat it. Own your mistakes. The Broncos screwed up signing Russ to a stupid deal, but they aren't thinking "ya know, I owe him a lot of money, I think we'll just continue to be inept for 3 years." Dak is better than Russ at this point, and the cowboys offense is better than Denver's, but it's the same concept. Own your mistake in giving Dak way too much money, figure it the hell out and move on to try and find that guy who can win you playoff games.

We win 10+ games EVERY YEAR, and don't do a damn thing with it. And look, if you hire the right guy at the head coaching spot and he makes it to an NFC championship game with Dak playing the best of his career, then extend him a bit. But just be real and open about your situation. Don't keep kicking the can down the road and being content with winning 10 games and a first round out every season.

ETA: Dak isn't the only problem with the team. The defense was Charmin soft all year, but Dak is a part of the problem in the playoff. So fix the defense the best you can with a new DC with some grit, but also be open to try something different at QB.