I don't disagree. Just imagine if I came at 8 am and said "OMG the Texans could believe they got their franchise QB and defensive capitan that DeMeco will lead. It's the best thing anyone externals could have hoped for"

You'd be excited.

When you play on a team with more talent than all but 2 other college programs and can sleepwalk through 90% of your games, no you don't meet the standard.

Hell, even Burrow had a down LSU program for one year and then they immediately fell back when he left.

Ohio St's record would have been identical with McCord at QB.

Will Anderson at 3 is a great get, not sure I understand the trade up to. 2.5.

Caserio better not bet on his way out, otherwise we are wet at bar at No 32-28 for the next few years

How many current D-linemen in the league would you have been OK with the Texans trading those picks for? Bosa? Garrett? Who else?

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When you play on a team with more talent than all but 2 other college programs and can sleepwalk through 90% of your games, no you don't meet the standard.

Hell, even Burrow had a down LSU program for one year and then they immediately fell back when he left.

Ohio St's record would have been identical with McCord at QB.

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I'm not sold on Stroud, but I think he has just as much of a chance to be the best QB in this class than any other player. But now you're just cherry picking from your list. You can give me hypothetical examples and I can reply in kind with counter points that are all hypothetical on why he hit 5 of the 6 things you listed. I can also counter point the LSU example since they lost a ton of talent and coaches. But it's your opinion, so I don't need to change your mind.

My point was, if you want someone, you take him irregardless of the trends from other previous players in the program. If you only look at trends and let that dictate your decisions, you're bound to miss someone good. Is this a case of that? I don't know, but we'll find out relatively soon.

No one is sold on stroud. It's like jumping the heffer on a Friday night… could be fun and also could be a lot more than you hoped for

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Just curious

If that test score was not known. What would be your thoughts on Stroud.

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About the same for me, I think he has a higher upside than Young and is the best pure passer in the draft. I actually feel more comfortable taking him than Young.

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Just curious

If that test score was not known. What would be your thoughts on Stroud.

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Still iffy on him even without the test score. Dude is certainly capable of some great games but to me never seemed more than adequate. IMO Anderson was the no brainer at 2. QB could have been had without giving up the farm. I still say Hooker will be every bit as good as Stroud will. Except now I hope I'm wrong

Good color on how the makeup of the new squad is coming along:

#Texans key offseason additions:

+DeMeco Ryans
+CJ Stroud
+Will Anderson Jr
+Shaq Mason
+Robert Woods
+Dalton Schultz
+Devin Singletary
+John Metchie*
+Jimmie Ward
+Sheldon Rankins

And the draft is just getting started

— Jordan Pun (@Texans_Thoughts) April 28, 2023

Our wr core is gotta be bottom 3

No question. Hope something happens

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Our wr core is gotta be bottom 3

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I'm really hoping we can get Jonathon Mingo in the 3rd are jump up into the 2nd if another run starts. I think he's one of the steals in this draft.

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Just saw a tweet that the #1 traded for 2024 is the Texans own pick (not the Browns).

So, start winning guys.

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At least tanking won't be an option for them this season.

Who are the 3rd-4th round receivers that are intriguing?

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Who are the 3rd-4th round receivers that are intriguing?

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Depends on the next run, but Marvin Mims, Cedric Tillman (another steal), Mingo, Xavier Hutchinson, and maybe Kayshon Boutte (crazy to think how much he's fallen) could be available in that 3rd to 4th round range. But some may slide up depending on a run.

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Who are the 3rd-4th round receivers that are intriguing?

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Depends on the next run, but Marvin Mims, Cedric Tillman (another steal), Mingo, Xavier Hutchinson, and maybe Kayshon Boutte (crazy to think how much he's fallen) could be available in that 3rd to 4th round range. But some may slide up depending on a run.

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Ah forgot about Boutte. Talent is there. And yes I love mingo.

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mAgnoliAg said:

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Who are the 3rd-4th round receivers that are intriguing?

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Depends on the next run, but Marvin Mims, Cedric Tillman (another steal), Mingo, Xavier Hutchinson, and maybe Kayshon Boutte (crazy to think how much he's fallen) could be available in that 3rd to 4th round range. But some may slide up depending on a run.

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Ah forgot about Boutte. Talent is there. And yes I love mingo.

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Yup, I would be happy if we could snap Tillman or Mingo, but Boutte or Hutchinson in the 4th would be good too.

Why has Boutte fallen? Any particular reason?

Will Levis...... woof

There's no way Tillman could drop to the top of the 3rd…….is there?

Texans can't be that lucky

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— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) April 28, 2023

Let's be realistic on the trade for Will Anderson. We get him plus pick 105 near the top of round 4. We gave up 12 which would have been Van Ness since he went 13 to GB. Let's see who ArIzona picks at 33 or a player we wanted right after that. Then our pick at 105 goes on our side.

You typically downgrade future picks by 1 round so the 24 picks are like a 2nd and 4th this year. So we traded the equivalent of 2 s year for moving up from 12 to 3. We likely got a more valuable 4 than we gave up.

Also, the whole CJ smoke screen worked so well most people bought it. A few weeks ago, everyone assumed Carolina traded up for CJ since Bryce is a tiny man. Those 2 are clearly better than AR, the colts new project and Levis who is still waiting to be drafted. At one point LeviS topped Mel Kipers draft lol.

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Bama has 3 NFL HOF QB's. Ohio St has Mike Tomczak & Brian Hoyer as their best ever. Tech is a poor comparison as they aren't a historically "stacked" program. Still, Mahomes is a great example of the type of college player that does well in the NFL.

By and large QB's from stacked programs wash out in the NFL. They aren't challenged much in college & most were challenged even less in high school. When they suddenly can't out talent opponents and their team can't just show up and win 90% of their games on Sundays. It is too much of a shock for them.

If you want a good NFL QB go draft a guy that has the arm talent, played on a team that took some lumps, led some upsets or played better teams tough, played 25+ games, took some beatings and made his team better.

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And Pitt has Marino and Vtech has Vick. Bama having Staar, Stabler and Namath all from over 30 plus years ago doesn't mean a damn thing to right now. That narrative is played the F out.

Hell, Purdue has the most I think. By that theory just draft whoever the hell is coming out from Purdue.

Bama also had Mccaron, Croyle, Jay Barker, Mike Shula and Richard Todd. All of Bamas great NFL QB's had one thing in common, they had great players around them for a few years and great Coaches, it's not rocket science.

And guess who had the biggest influence of Texans drafting CJ, Jerrod Johnson who coached and apparently they're pretty close.

This draft feels to me like Cal wanted a QB and DeMeco wanted "his guy" on defense, and Nick had to make it happen. Let's hope they're right but these are big bets

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Cal looks so sloppy in the thumbnail