*******The Official Houston Texans 2023: The reign of Meco thread************

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Lots of good players still on the board. Hopefully they make both picks at 104 and 105.
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Don't we pick 2nd and 3rd in round 4 when it starts tomorrow. We could still get 2 solid players to start the day.
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Toto and AJ to start the day for the Texans tomorrow
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Between AJ, Ringo, and Clark Phillips they'll have a shot at a solid DB tomorrow.
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Gimme Kelee. 6'2" 207 4.36 40 plus mostly good play at Georgia
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LincolnBorglum79 said:

Don't we pick 2nd and 3rd in round 4 when it starts tomorrow. We could still get 2 solid players to start the day.


Yep. Snag 2 of...

DE Adebawore
LB To'oto'o
LB Herbig
CB Ringo
CB Phillips
CB Rush
S Johnson

Based purely on the ESPN draft grades Adebawore & Ringo are the best value.
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Kiper has hated on the Texans picks for two days now. I'm thinking this might actually turn out all right!
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mAgnoliAg said:

3rd round kicker


Long Snapper or gtfo.
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Ringo and AJ to start off the 4th would make my day
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If Mel hates our picks we have hit home runs. That guy thought Ryan Leaf was better than Peyton Manning. He had Levis as the top QB. If you draft who he suggests you will always be picking high every year.

Tyreek Hill was a fifth round pick. Tank Dell is underrated.
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I like Ringo as an upside pick, but he has bust potential from what I can gather. He may need to be a safety due to his hips, but struggles with reads and zone coverage. Not a good combo. Darius Rush is another big, fast CB with upside too.

I wouldn't be surprised if we go offense as well. TE or swing OT. Tytus Howard has struggled to stay healthy. I hope we grab a RB at some point as well, just not in the early 4th.
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We had that guy already in Lonnie Johnson
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Pahdz said:

We had that guy already in Lonnie Johnson

I think Ringo is better than Lonnie, but yeah that might be a good comparison.
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Ryan34 said:

I like Ringo as an upside pick, but he has bust potential from what I can gather. He may need to be a safety due to his hips, but struggles with reads and zone coverage. Not a good combo. Darius Rush is another big, fast CB with upside too.

I wouldn't be surprised if we go offense as well. TE or swing OT. Tytus Howard has struggled to stay healthy. I hope we grab a RB at some point as well, just not in the early 4th.
Ringo is very interesting, but in the 4th he is probably worth it.

Overall here's a list of people available that I like for our 2 4th rounders

Kelee Ringo - CB


Adetomiwa Adebawore - DE Freakish athlete that ran a 4.49


Henry To'oTo'o - LB


Clark Phillips - CB


Antonio Johnson - S


Dawand Jones - OT


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Ryan34 said:

Pahdz said:

We had that guy already in Lonnie Johnson

I think Ringo is better than Lonnie, but yeah that might be a good comparison.
It's a good comparison from a size point of view, but I think RIngo is better also...also ironically Ringo has a higher prospect grade by most publications, but we took Lonnie in the 2nd round and Ringo is still available in the 4th.
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I wish they had taken the Vols WR myself over the UH one.

Undersized WRs making an impact are the exception, not the norm.
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LB12Diamond said:

I wish they had taken the Vols WR myself over the UH one.

Undersized WRs making an impact are the exception, not the norm.
Yeah, I liked Tillman, but the same impact concerns can be said about deep threat WR in an Art Briles offense. So it's all a toss up. I do like Tank's change of direction abilities, compared to the strait line speed of Hyatt and Tillman.

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Marvin said:

Kiper has hated on the Texans picks for two days now. I'm thinking this might actually turn out all right!


First thing that's really made me feel good about this draft.
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I'm not sure about taking another ILB in the 4th. I think there are some guys later who could be good fits.

I want one of the 4ths to be a DB. Whoever they like the most.

DL or TE with the other. Will Mallory and Zack Kuntz are intriguing to me. The learning curve at TE is usually pretty steep, so getting a high upside one now who can take a year to grow may not be a bad idea.
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Wouldn't mind To'oTo'o, don't think he will ever be a pro bowler but I have confidence he will be a high floor rock solid LB
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We just traded pick 104 to the Raiders
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And apparently 105 to Phily

Trying to figure out what we got in the trades

We apparently moved down to 109 from 104 with the Raiders
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Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick
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Raiders traded 109 (7th pick in the 4th) and 174 (39th pick in 5th round) for the 104 pick and 203 (6th round)
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Solid move, restock the 3rd we send for Anderson
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I like both of those deals.

So we move down to 109 and pick up an extra 5th this year and a 3rd next year with the 2 trades
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TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:

Solid move, restock the 3rd we send for Anderson
Yeah, I'm happy with those!
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Eagles take Ringo to attempt to corner the market on Georgia players
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IrishAg said:

Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick


Wait, we're happy that we sent an early 4th round pick this year for what likely will be one of the last 3rd round picks next year? We wait a year to gain a couple of spots… is that right?

I feel like I'm missing something.
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Marvin said:

IrishAg said:

Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick


Wait, we're happy that we sent an early 4th round pick this year for what likely will be one of the last 3rd round picks next year? We wait a year to gain a couple of spots… is that right?

I feel like I'm missing something.
If we didn't really like multiple people in this years 4th round then we gained a ton of value. Just a couple of spots or not it will be a higher pick, and we'll have a 3rd rounder next year.
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IrishAg said:

Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick


Damn, not looking likely the Eagles will be any worse next year, they're loading up.
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Marvin said:

IrishAg said:

Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick


Wait, we're happy that we sent an early 4th round pick this year for what likely will be one of the last 3rd round picks next year? We wait a year to gain a couple of spots… is that right?

I feel like I'm missing something.


Me too. And doesn't jive with the attempt to get players now that they were executing earlier in the draft.
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We didn't have a 3rd pick in 2024. Now we do
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IrishAg said:

Marvin said:

IrishAg said:

Looks like we traded 105 to the Eagles for a 2024 3rd round pick


Wait, we're happy that we sent an early 4th round pick this year for what likely will be one of the last 3rd round picks next year? We wait a year to gain a couple of spots… is that right?

I feel like I'm missing something.
If we didn't really like multiple people in this years 4th round then we gained a ton of value. Just a couple of spots or not it will be a higher pick, and we'll have a 3rd rounder next year.


First point makes sense if that's how they view the talent at this point compared to projections for next year. However, saying 3rd round vs 4th round may not mean a whole lot if the sequence is four picks difference for the price of more talent this season.

I'm not arguing the logic one way or the other. You guys were happy and I was just trying to make sure I understood the reason. Carry on!
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