Injuries to "run-centric" QBs show why big contracts are a mistake

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Even with all the protection that the NFL has provided the QB over the past decade, run first QBs are going to get hurt. Why would anyone ever want to give Lamar Jackson $40 million a year guaranteed for Five years? I might give him $5 guaranteed a year with incentives to get to $50, but you simply can't pay guys that kind of money when they are going to be so susceptible to injury.
v/r
jr15aggie
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Because good QBs that can win in the NFL are hard to find. If you get one and then let them go, you might doom your franchise to QB hell for 10+ years.
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jr15aggie said:

Because good QBs that can win in the NFL are hard to find. If you get one and then let them go, you might doom your franchise to QB hell for 10+ years.
All of this. If the Ravens don't pay Lamar, someone else will. He didn't even get hurt running, he took a sack. Risk/reward
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injury is part of the issue for running QB's like Lamar and Murray...

but the bigger issue is defensive coordinators adjusting to their style and figuring out how to keep them in the pocket.

look at Murray's drop-off:

2020 ---> 26 passing TD's and 11 rushing TD's in 16 games

2022 ---> 14 passing TD's and 3 rushing TD's in 11 games

similar story with Lamar

Smeghead4761
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One of the more interesting stats I saw regarding Murray specifically was the Cardinals win % in the first half of the season vs the second half of the season. It's a huge drop off. I don't know if it's from other teams having more film to study, or Murray getting banged up and slowing down, or a combination.

The thing that always pops into my head, does nobody teach these QBs how to slide? (Murray especially should know how, since he was also drafted in baseball.) I remember Steve Young, back in the day, would almost always slide at the end of a run.

It actually struck me the last Chiefs game I saw, because it seemed like every time Mahomes ran, he either slid or went out of bounds. He wasn't taking hits.
boy09
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Kyler has always been pretty good about sliding and not taking hits in the open field, no? This was a non-contact injury.
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Well, here is this.....More Protections for QBs?.

It's okay if a RB damn near yanks a DBs head off, but QBs are going to become untouchable. Might as well put a special "no touchy" jersey on them.

2+2=5
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and what makes Murray's situation worse...

the Cardinals have brought in Pro Bowl players to help him.

Hopkins, Conner, and Zach Ertz plus Hollywood Brown
MookieBlaylock
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Weather and game film start to tighten up on running QBs

Lamar was awful in the playoffs as he can't throw anything but basic throws

Kyler isn't really a running QB he is just tiny and has world class speed

He can make all the throws unlike Lamar

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Having a QB that can get some yards with his legs is great, but the job of a QB always has been and always will be to deliver the ball on time and accurately. You have to be able to make big plays in the passing game to win consistently in the NFL. Having some mobility is gravy, but depending on a QBs legs is fleeting.
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Yall retconning that Murray's nickname on this board was Slider?
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Smeghead4761 said:

One of the more interesting stats I saw regarding Murray specifically was the Cardinals win % in the first half of the season vs the second half of the season. It's a huge drop off. I don't know if it's from other teams having more film to study, or Murray getting banged up and slowing down, or a combination.

The thing that always pops into my head, does nobody teach these QBs how to slide? (Murray especially should know how, since he was also drafted in baseball.) I remember Steve Young, back in the day, would almost always slide at the end of a run.

It actually struck me the last Chiefs game I saw, because it seemed like every time Mahomes ran, he either slid or went out of bounds. He wasn't taking hits.

If you think Kyler doesn't know how to slide, you haven't watched much of his games….college or pro
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