***** 2020 Houston Texans Season Thread *****

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Kozmozag
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This team would go ofer, but they aren't the only crappy organization.
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best chance for a win is probably game 1 vs. the Jags
Max Power
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/23/texans-release-cornerback-john-reid-defensive-tackle-auzoyah-alufohai/

4th rounder from last year now gone. How much of Caserio's job is undoing O'Brien's work?
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Max Power said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/23/texans-release-cornerback-john-reid-defensive-tackle-auzoyah-alufohai/

4th rounder from last year now gone. How much of Caserio's job is undoing O'Brien's work?
All of it?
Texan_Aggie
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Got a conditional 7th for him, at least?
lunchbox
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Shrug emoji

rangerdanger
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Looks like the Dolphins are emerging as the team that will make the deal. Wonder if Tua will be part of it or not.
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Dolphins totally get Deshaun

bilbobag
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Nothing soon happening
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Sparkie said:

Dolphins totally get Deshaun




Lol, why you gotta bring back the footage of the Tunsil trade.
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rangerdanger said:

Looks like the Dolphins are emerging as the team that will make the deal. Wonder if Tua will be part of it or not.
There's now way they would keep Tua and DeShaun together. You don't pay a guy $19 million as a signing bonus, let him play a few games, and then make him your backup.

Just realized the Texans' season opener is against Jacksonville. I highly recommend taking a late flyer on Trevor Lawrence in your FFL draft for his inevitable 450-yard, 5-touchdown performance coming in 2 weeks.
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Random NFL insider reported earlier yesterday that "Panthers and Dolphins are the frontrunners" then later the "Panthers had backed out".

About an hour later another report "Deshaun wants to play for Miami but would approve a trade to Carolina"

Sounds like nobody really knows anything and this is just a media war driven by Deshaun/Texans camps. Makes no sense to trade him right now given other teams would want contingencies against the draft picks which could significantly decrease due to legal or trading team performance. I'd bet nothing happens until the end of the season and Deshaun is a healthy scratch most sundays.
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yes, Tua was rather unimpressive last year. Could not throw the ball downfield.

Texans have to wait and see if he looks any better in the first months of this season
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Ags #1
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For a 6th rounderp
redag06
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Probably the best pash rusher this team had.
Texan_Aggie
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Omenihu has looked the best this preseason.

Texans save about $1.4M in cap space by trading and pick up a 6th.

So basically we traded McKinney and a 7th for 2 6th round picks and cap savings. Not a bad way to shed cap and get something in return because I think this defense will be bad with or without McKinney/Lawson.
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Texan_Aggie said:

Omenihu has looked the best this preseason.

Texans save about $1.4M in cap space by trading and pick up a 6th.

So basically we traded McKinney and a 7th for 2 6th round picks and cap savings. Not a bad way to shed cap and get something in return because I think this defense will be bad with or without McKinney/Lawson.


Yes, they essentially were more than likely going to cut McKinney, they traded him for Lawson and gained a 6th. It didn't work out, traded him for another 6th and saved some money. Look, we all agree this team is going to suck, but this was a win, albeit a minuscule win, fora guy you were going to release. Take solace in small victories like this, because I doubt we will see more than 3 actual victories this year.
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Omenihu will be back to his normal (meaning jag) form in the regular season.
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Texan_Aggie
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What I like about this move is that Caserio tried with Lawson, recognized it wasn't a good deal/working, and got out of it. BoB would have started Lawson the remainder of his contract insisting we were wrong about him being bad
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yeah so far Caserio is a good fit. He seems to have taken control of the personnel side of things well. Let's see how the rest of the year shakes out. I like the idea of stacking a lot of draft capital in the later rounds. These are easily swappable for 2-3 round picks when teams lose out on their guy and the draft rolls on.

I appreciate that he has an eye on the future. Let's hope that eye gets a king's ransom for Watson soon.
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Why is Brandin Cooks still on the roster? He's a free agent after the 22 season. He's only 28, and stayed healthy last year.

Seems like they could've gotten something for him?
Kozmozag
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Lawson was a casserio screw up. Got it wrong. But small in the grand scheme of things.
JCA1
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Texan_Aggie said:

What I like about this move is that Caserio tried with Lawson, recognized it wasn't a good deal/working, and got out of it. BoB would have started Lawson the remainder of his contract insisting we were wrong about him being bad


I hate BOB with the heat of 1,000 suns but he would cut guys pretty quickly if they got on his bad side. And Lawson wasn't some huge investment that someone would feel obligated to keep.

Caserio's job is to make the team better, not recognize his mistakes faster. So far, I don't think he's done anything to make this team better in the near or long term. However, I will admit that this is likely a wasted year so there may not be many opportunities to improve the team right now and that is just going to have to wait. But other than pure hope, he hasn't done anything to elevate him beyond "wait and see" just yet.
MelvinUdall
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That is an excellent analysis. I agree, he hasn't done anything that we can look to that would make you feel great about the future, however I do believe he is moving in the right direction. That said, the draft for him next year is huge, what he gets in the Watson trade, and in FA next year, that will be the sign if he was the right hire.
Max Power
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Noble07 said:

Why is Brandin Cooks still on the roster? He's a free agent after the 22 season. He's only 28, and stayed healthy last year.

Seems like they could've gotten something for him?
Looking at our roster I think hanging onto him for now makes sense. Regardless of who plays QB his year they need someone reliable and experienced. His cap number ($5.5MM) is also something that other teams aren't likely interested in right now, but if there's a team in contention that needs a WR later it has a better opportunity to bear fruit.
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Haha - Dolphins releasing McKinney
Bobby Jimbo
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lunchbox said:

Haha - Dolphins releasing McKinney

Trade win confirmed?
BayAg_14
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Damn.

lunchbox
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Anyone else think they should be calling Balt and asking if they are interesting in trading for Ingram?
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I think the estate sale of BoB regime players has made for a better long term. He has done a good job churning the roster and setting the team up to not have old expensive players on it tied for many years.

Agree that the draft next year will be a big litmus test for Caserio. That said, it's still 2-3 years out from there to judge whether those picks amounted to anything.
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JCA1
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Certainly a reasonable opinion and you may be right. But the way I see it is the team is no better set up for the future than it was before he arrived. And it doesn't take the ghost of Vince Lombardi to cut overpaid veterans on a terrible team that's 3 years from competing for anything.

I'm repeating myself but the biggest decision he's had to date was our 3rd round pick and I think he royally botched it. No way Mills can perform well enough on this terrible team to prevent them from drafting a QB next year. Which means, if I'm right, that he wasted his most valuable asset to date.
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MelvinUdall
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That is the most shocking thing since Bruce Jenner became Kaitlyn Jenner.
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