It was also his play that had them missing the playoffsAg12thman said:Yep - agreed. Dak should not even be in the conversation. Elliott -- maybe, but it's that OL as much as it is him.BMX Bandit said:jr15aggie said:Quote:
Doesn't surprise me at all. Lots of talk on shows about Rodgers as MVP
This I really don't understand... the guy was downright bad at times early in the season. The whole body of work does not = MVP... his last name is the only reason he's a top candidate.
I'm still surprised Dak isn't running away with this thing. Team went 4-12 w/out Romo last year and 1 year later (same hurt Romo) Dak has them on top of the NFC. No doubt Zeke & Dak have hurt each other by splitting some votes.
Love the guy, but Dak shouldn't be running away with the MVP. Not even close.
Rogers has a legit claim to that award again. It's going to be him or Ryan. Both worthy
IMO, it's probably going to Rodgers, Ryan, or Brady. With the way Rodgers played the last 7 games, I'd be pretty surprised if it doesn't go to him. He played his team into a legit Super Bowl contender when it looked like they were going to miss the playoffs altogether -- and it was primarily HIS play that has them in the place they are.
jr15aggie said:
I have no words for the people who said / backed up the statement about how Daks stats weren't top 10.
Last time I checked a 5:1 TD / Int ratio and a top 3 QB rating over 100 was ELITE! He also rushed for 6 TDs.
It's probably the most impressive stats for a rookie QB ever.
Then again, some of this is coming from the group that went on for 3+ pages about how playing Romo might be the right move.
CSWendt said:
Name 10 better QB's in the league
The stats disagree with you this year. Romo, Rivers, Stafford, and Cam all had stats under Dak's.PooDoo said:CSWendt said:
Name 10 better QB's in the league
Brady
Brees
Big Ben
Cam
Rodgers
Ryan
Stafford
Rivers
Luck
Romo
Ok this has to be a troll. Sunday can't get here soon enoughCSWendt said:
I don't think I need to take the time and show you the stats to prove that Dak had a better season than Romo, Stafford, Wilson, Marriota, Rivers, and Cam.
As for Romo.....not even going to touch that
PooDoo said:Because in his rookie year, with minimal action in pre-season, is leading the league in rushing yards and is one of the best running backs in the league.jr15aggie said:BMX Bandit said:
Zeke is more deserving of ROTY.
Why?
How can you say he's more deserving? We all said for years "We are screwed if Romo gets hurt or when he retires". And we had proof with multiple seasons in the crapper when he got hurt. Not so much this year thanks to a rookie QB.
I'm just curious how a case can be made that either are more deserving. It's cool if it's as simple as "it's just my opinion"... Me personally, I can't choose... Love Zeke, Love Dak... Give it to them both!
Dak isn't a top 10 QB, doesn't have great stats other than wins and turn over %.
CSWendt said:
Just so you can form your own opinions from this season:
Cam 3,509 yards 24 total TD 14 INT
Stafford 4,327 yards 26 total TD 10 INT
Romo ----------------------------------------------------
Wilson 4,219 yards 22 total TD 11 INT
Rivers 4,386 yards 33 total TD 21 INT
Mariota 3,426 yards 28 total TD 9 INT
Prescott 3,667 yards 29 total TD 4 INT
We're done herePooDoo said:CSWendt said:
Just so you can form your own opinions from this season:
Cam 3,509 yards 24 total TD 14 INT
Stafford 4,327 yards 26 total TD 10 INT
Romo ----------------------------------------------------
Wilson 4,219 yards 22 total TD 11 INT
Rivers 4,386 yards 33 total TD 21 INT
Mariota 3,426 yards 28 total TD 9 INT
Prescott 3,667 yards 29 total TD 4 INT
And Romo did finish the year with a 134 QBR.
CSWendt said:The stats disagree with you this year. Romo, Rivers, Stafford, and Cam all had stats under Dak's.PooDoo said:CSWendt said:
Name 10 better QB's in the league
Brady
Brees
Big Ben
Cam
Rodgers
Ryan
Stafford
Rivers
Luck
Romo
jr15aggie said:
We have officially gone full ******. I am ashamed to be a part of the last few pages. No idea what the hell we are taking about and how the hell we got to this lowly place!
DannyDuberstein said:
I just love that this is even a debate.
I'd probably throw my vote to Zeke because he is without a doubt the best RB in the league - head and shoulders above the rest. And he wasn't just a Demarco Murray grinder. His explosive, game-breaking ability changed everything. The stat line is one thing (which was amazing), but the dimension he added and what he forces defenses into goes far beyond that line.
jr15aggie said:
We have officially gone full ******. I am ashamed to be a part of the last few pages. No idea what the hell we are taking about and how the hell we got to this lowly place!
DannyDuberstein said:
I just love that this is even a debate.
I'd probably throw my vote to Zeke because he is without a doubt the best RB in the league - head and shoulders above the rest. And he wasn't just a Demarco Murray grinder. His explosive, game-breaking ability changed everything. The stat line is one thing (which was amazing), but the dimension he added and what he forces defenses into goes far beyond that line.
DannyDuberstein said:
I just love that this is even a debate.
I'd probably throw my vote to Zeke because he is without a doubt the best RB in the league - head and shoulders above the rest. And he wasn't just a Demarco Murray grinder. His explosive, game-breaking ability changed everything. The stat line is one thing (which was amazing), but the dimension he added and what he forces defenses into goes far beyond that line.
