jr15aggie said:
After Week 9:
Cowboys 7-1
NFC East lead is 2 games over everybody.
NFC top seed lead is 1.5 games (will be 2 full games if Seattle loses tonight)
Zeke is #1 rusher. The closest RBs are DeMarco (84 yards back) and Gordon (123 yards back), but get this, both those guys have played 1 more game than Zeke because they haven't had a bye week yet!
Dak Prescott is #4 in QB rating & yards per attempt
Dallas Offense is #3 (411.5 yards/game) #4 in scoring (27.9) & #1 rush yards/game (165.3).
Dallas has a top 10 defense (yards/game) and are #4 at 17.5 points/game.
Did you know: Philly is now 3 games back and 0-3 in the division. Unless they practically play perfect football the rest of the way they are pretty much a non factor in the race for the NFC East.
3-4 years ago he was an awful game day coach. i don't think anyone who has any understanding of the game could deny this. ming boggling decisions, terrible clock mgmt from the sidelines, unnecessary challenges, and mind numbing low IQ moments from the team.Ag Natural said:
I don't think anyone else in the NFC East thinks they are catching Dallas. But as of right now both the Giants and Skins would be Wild Card (I think).
There is so much right with this team it's scary. At what point do we start saying Garrett might be decent? Has hell frozen over yet?
Unthought Known said:
I think anyone who has ever played Madden is better at clock management than most head coaches.
ce1994 said:
I think coaching is horrible at all levels. For instance, how hard is it to tell a punt returner to stand on the 10 yard line and if he has to back up DO NOT FIELD THE PUNT. I mean really. That is basic football 101. i was watching the LSU-Alabama game the other night and a player fielded a punt on the one yard line.
Kicking the ball out of bounds, calling a time out before the two minutes warning, etc. are all things foreign to these coaches. They can't even coach them to run through the goal line and not dropping the ball before rossing the goal.
Yep. In some sense I'm kind of waiting to wake up from a dream, and we're at about .500 with Prescott struggling and teams keying on Elliott to stop the run.jr15aggie said:
I'm hearing across sport talk nation that what he is doing is completely unprecedented for rookies... like EVER! Granted NFL QB stats are different in today's world, but what I'm hearing isn't even so much about stats. It's about the wins, the TDs and lack of INTs, it's about all the intangibles that makes him as good as he is. A true phenom.
I know I don't fully understand and appreciate it... kind of impossible to fully comprehend.
For what its worth, sometimes you take risks on punts (and kickoffs) and field it inside the 10 (or in the endzone) with the hope that you just get lucky, or that they've outkicked their coverage, etc.Quote:
I think coaching is horrible at all levels. For instance, how hard is it to tell a punt returner to stand on the 10 yard line and if he has to back up DO NOT FIELD THE PUNT. I mean really. That is basic football 101. i was watching the LSU-Alabama game the other night and a player fielded a punt on the one yard line.
That's less than half.TXAggie2011 said:
First round quarterbacks are the ones with staying power.
14 teams are starting a quarterback drafted before 2011.
5 were #1 picks. 8 were top-11 picks. 10 were top 24 picks. 11 were first round picks.
It is more scattered from 2011 forward, as younger guys are still getting their opportunities. Newton and Luck are still around, of course. Seems like Carolina should be pretty happy with that and the Colts seem to be happy with Andrew Luck.
WTF are you even talking about right now?ce1994 said:
If it is your job to tell the guy to stand on the 10 yard line and if he has to back up not to field the punt and you are paid 6 figures to do that then the human error lies on the coach. If you have to tell that idiot player every time he goes out there for a punt the deal then so be it. It only happens 1-2 times a game probably.
Another case in point. Matt Schaub admitted one time he did not know how far the potential game winning field goal in regulation would be. The Texans punted the ball because it was too far but Schaub admitted he did not know how far the kick would have been. This is your quarterback. You have to know that. Period.
A. A coach can't teach every player everything about football. That's Schaub being stupid. Not coaches fault.ce1994 said:
If it is your job to tell the guy to stand on the 10 yard line and if he has to back up not to field the punt and you are paid 6 figures to do that then the human error lies on the coach. If you have to tell that idiot player every time he goes out there for a punt the deal then so be it. It only happens 1-2 times a game probably.
Another case in point. Matt Schaub admitted one time he did not know how far the potential game winning field goal in regulation would be. The Texans punted the ball because it was too far but Schaub admitted he did not know how far the kick would have been. This is your quarterback. You have to know that. Period.
Well, if I understood ce1994 right, he was saying the notion of a "franchise quarterback" was nonsense in the first place.PooDoo said:That's less than half.TXAggie2011 said:
First round quarterbacks are the ones with staying power.
14 teams are starting a quarterback drafted before 2011.
5 were #1 picks. 8 were top-11 picks. 10 were top 24 picks. 11 were first round picks.
It is more scattered from 2011 forward, as younger guys are still getting their opportunities. Newton and Luck are still around, of course. Seems like Carolina should be pretty happy with that and the Colts seem to be happy with Andrew Luck.
The wild card that is being thrown into the old 1st round QB theory is the way the college game has evolved to the spread offenses. It makes it harder on scouts and GM's to predict if a spread QB can transition to a pro offense. If they don't fit in the 6'4" drop back QB mold they have a hard time grading the player.
There will be more talent at QB slipping to the later rounds and because of that there will be more and more franchise QB drafted after the 1st round.
ce1994 said:
I think coaching is horrible at all levels. For instance, how hard is it to tell a punt returner to stand on the 10 yard line and if he has to back up DO NOT FIELD THE PUNT. I mean really. That is basic football 101. i was watching the LSU-Alabama game the other night and a player fielded a punt on the one yard line.
Kicking the ball out of bounds, calling a time out before the two minutes warning, etc. are all things foreign to these coaches. They can't even coach them to run through the goal line and not dropping the ball before rossing the goal.
Ag Natural said:
I'd like to see the number and round of all QBs drafted who turned out to be terrible.
The fact is there have been A LOT of busts over the years. And for a position as important as QB you are basically setting the franchise back a few years each time you take a guy early who doesn't turn out to be good. This Dak situation has basically verified that its nearly impossible to truly evaluate these guys out of college. For every Luck and Cam you have 10 jags. And to make matters worse, you can't really find out what you have until you've spent a lot of time developing and probably losing games. Hell, the Rams aren't even putting Goff on the field yet because they don't think he's ready.
It's got to just kill GMs when you have a guy like Dak come around who enters OTAs not knowing how to take a snap and plays nearly error-free in his FIRST PRESEASON game just a couple months later and hasn't let up since. His progression has been mind-boggling.
Who are you including in this sample? All drafted quarterbacks? First round quarterbacks? Top-10 picks?Quote:
For every Luck and Cam you have 10 jags.
I'm just constantly shocked by it. We got very lucky when he fell into our laps, especially considering that we wanted Lynch and Cook ahead of him.TXAggie2011 said:
But anyways, that's more for another poster perhaps.
What we've seen with Dak Prescott is just incredible.
I'm including all QBs drafted in my assessment. Its not surprising that the higher picks statistically have a higher hit rate but it's not that exceedingly better. That list alone is pretty unimpressive especially when you consider two factors:TXAggie2011 said:
Dak Prescott has verified nothing that wasn't verified before which was only that you can find a good NFL quarterback outside the first round.
But drafting is about giving yourself the best opportunity to discover a good player. Dak Prescott doesn't mean you should wait until the 4th round to draft a quarterback. You do that and the overwhelming odds are that he won't turn out to be a good NFL quarterback.Who are you including in this sample? All drafted quarterbacks? First round quarterbacks? Top-10 picks?Quote:
For every Luck and Cam you have 10 jags.
There are not 10 "jag" first rounders for every good one; and certainly not when looking at the top-10 picks which teams trade up to make which started this conversation.
Going back to 2003, your top 10-pick QBs are Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz.
You can expand that one pick to get Ben Roethlisberger, Jay Cutler, and I think Blaine Gabbert.
There are some absolute busts in there but you're not going to find nearly as good a chance to draft a good quarterback in any other segment of the draft.
When I read this I literally thought they meant "jags," as in members of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and he was using their team name as a synonym for bust. And... In a historical sense, it kind of made sense.Quote:
For every Luck and Cam you have 10 jags.
Half the league is playing top 10/11 picks. The other half comes mostly from the rest of the first round and the few remaining come from the other 6 rounds of the draft. Its exceedingly better and then some.Quote:
Its not surprising that the higher picks statistically have a higher hit rate but it's not that exceedingly better.
There is certainly an entrance barrier to getting playing time, and that's convincing the team that you deserve playing time. And fair, we can't accurately account for developmental attention.Quote:
1. A top ten pick is going to get a lot of attention. No organization wants to miss with that pick so every possible effort is made to develop these guys. Later round QBs are lucky to get a few reps in the preseason. Tono Romo didn't play in a real game until his fourth season and he would have been bad he probably would have been gone immediately. Meanwhile, guys like Bradford and Smith get multiple chances to prove themselves and might EVENTUALLY have a modicum of success.
So, you'd do what the Cowboys did around 2001? Yeah...Quote:
The more I look at it the more I'm convinced you just bring in two or three cheap guys a year until you find a couple who seem to get it.
NO, bad jr15aggie, bad!jr15aggie said:
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/11/07/cowbuzz-mannequinchallenge-goes-viral-after-win-over-browns
ROFL!!!
Not sure what the Mannequin Challenge is, but I think the Cowboys nailed it. LOL, putting Romo in the "stow away" compartment, Zeke showing his abs... LOL... awesome!!!
