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Dallas82
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Teslag said:

Dallas82 said:

Amherst poll. How popular are datacenters?

Republicans are more receptive than Democrats, but even Republicans oppose a data center in their community by nearly 3-to-1, 52% to 18%. Among the strongest MAGA supportersthe group most receptive to data centersjust 25% support them being built nearby, compared with 42% who oppose.


You did all this research and then posted it using a data center


Yeah, but it wasn't near me.
That level of bipartisan opposition to datacenters was why Abbott changed his position and proposed a moratorium on construction.
TexasRebel
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Gotta have land for food and even more land for food for food.

Why not build data centers in the sea? (This is how you know I'm not "AI")
Teslag
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TexasRebel said:

Gotta have land for food and even more land for food for food.

Why not build data centers in the sea?


Why not buy the land yourself if you don't want it used as a data center?
TexasRebel
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Trying

Groceries have been too expensive and taxes too high. As inflation outpaces raises it's almost cheaper to retire 15 years ago.
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RED AG 98
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TexasRebel said:

RED AG 98 said:

Iowafarmkid said:

It would blow their mind to know that the autosteer for my equipment, individual row shut offs for my planter, yield monitors for my combines, and section controls for the sprayers have no need for a data center…..it works off a gps globe and a satellite and the internal computer in the monitor for yield monitoring and mapping…

The models running on the "internal computer" were trained in a data center. I didn't say you need internet connectivity; inference at the edge is a real thing!


Except didn't we establish that method creates 95% incorrect guesses?

Although, I really would like to rework my thesis research with a current FNN and stronger signals.


No we didn't say that at all.

There are models that are extremely accurate, especially for relatively simple tasks like image classification. Inference can be on the edge or in the cloud…

This, of course, is a completely different task than analyzing a set of source code and trying to find potential security vulnerabilities.

You are clearly an intelligent person but you are not discussing this topic in good faith. It can be an imperfect technology and extremely useful and even evolutionary nonetheless.
TexasRebel
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It can also be extremely misused when folks believe it does intelligent things so we don't have to.
Ag_SGT
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Yeah I don't get it either, my folks live in northern Virginia in a pretty upscale community comprised mostly of democrats. They have multiple data centers and I've never heard a single up there complaining about it until recently
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Watch, as soon as Hinojosa says shes for Data Centers, the republicans will get suspicious and reflexively ban them.
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ThunderCougarFalconBird
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Why would anyone who has a functioning brain be against data centers? AI has the potential to solve all of the world's woes that the left claims to care about at a price that the right will be happy with. And as time progresses, the physical issues currently presented by the big evil data centers will self-correct.

We're on the doorstep of unlimited abundance for all and there are somehow people fighting against the machinery that will provide it.
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Some Democrats even can grasp that the revenues from taxes are real. And of course democrats love all taxes.

Quote:

Q: "Recently, just speaking on the revenues the data centers are creating for Memphis. Elon Musk recently tweeted that Memphis is 'booming' because of the data centers. He said that hotels and restaurants are full and called, tax revenue in Memphis tremendous right now. Do you just have any thoughts on that?"

YOUNG: "Well, we've talked a lot about the financial aspects of the project. I think that as we talk about data centers in our city, we want to talk about it in a balanced way. Of course there's an economic side. We want to make sure that we are articulating what protections and guardrails we're putting in place for the environmental sides that, people are concerned about, the quality of life, noise, traffic, all of those aspects."

"But, there there is tax revenue. I think this year it was $54,000,000 in taxes that have been generated. And I know last year when they generated about $25,000,000 in tax revenue, it was the second largest tax paying property in Shelby County. I don't know where $54,000,000 puts it, but it is significant taxes."

"And so as we look at, the tax revenue, we also wanna look at how do we ensure that there are proper protections. That's what this ninety day executive order has been about, and, it's the conversation that we'll continue to have with the community."

Places like Memphis will get addicted to this revenue imho, but then in 10 years it is going to evaporate on them when orbital compute takes over (partially because in orbit there aren't any municipal taxes, or electricity/water costs).
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Yep. The city will increase their budget to match the tax revenue as if it will continue indefinitely. They should build a budget surplus and maintain their current level of taxation, but government employees never do that. They'll also find ways to siphon off the surplus and send it to their family, friends, and donors.
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9 months ago everyone wanted a data center for the tax base and construction jobs

Now 70% are against them

That is not an organic movement

While I get these daily fatigue with them this is very similar to the COVID propaganda and is being led by someone or multiple someone's for political gain
The world needs mean tweets

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Trump 2024
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Good point. Could reduce taxes by 20% soon turns into we could use a $20mm football stadium and light rail that costs $250k/rider*year
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GaryClare
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Pichael Thompson said:

They haven't made their cut yet

Once they can capitalize on data centers, construction will resume

There has never been a more accurate comment.

It is fascinating all the outrage over Nvidia and selling their technology to the Chinese and then back in the United States we just don't want to use that technology because it is loud and uses energy. Meanwhile everyone is glued to their phone, they have to use Carplay GPS to drive to the grocery store - except when they use Amazon instead. They go to Walmart or Home Depot to get anything imaginable with no inventory shortages. Literally the entire first world operates on data centers, yet our population and politicians don't want data centers.

They are either stupid or haven't gotten their cut yet. And they just can't be that stupid.
 
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