Ramdiesel said:

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UntoldSpirit said:

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txyaloo said:

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PCC_80 said:

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Sadly this is probably the worst possible decision. We have them on the ropes, their Air Force and Navy are wiped out, they have almost no air defense, the IRGC is decimated, most of their leadership is dead, they are broke. We need to finish them off.

We have poked the bear and we should be committed to killing it because it will eventually come for us.

Iranians do not "Forgive and Forget". They remember and once they rearm they will come looking for revenge. I am guessing that within 5 years they will stage a major attack on the U.S. Perhaps this time it will be with a Nuke.

Dems/Libs think that we can just walk away from these fanatics and they will never bother us again. They are wrong.

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You're welcome to continue being a war monger. The rest of the country is tired of it after 20 years of GWOT.

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Nuclear defense is a constant issue that lasts forever. Being tired of it just leads to destruction. It requires our constant vigilance. It never goes away. Pandora's box was opened. Nobody likes it. That's beside the point.

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I think we should do nothing more in Iran, maybe help the other countries build an oil pipeline away from the dangerous part of tbe Strait and connect existing pipelines.

Then we need to take the extra billions or trillions we would have to spend defeating the regime in Iran with boots on the ground and use it for research and development of better technology to defend against missiles/ nukes and build a massive defense system all.around the USA and in Greenland, etc. I mean something that could hopefully knockdown/ scramble any missiles lobbed at us and make nuclear attacks like that obsolete.

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That's already underway and has been. I'm not sure if "we" by the US government is contributing money to that but it's happening. Hormuz will be less relevant in a few years. So, if we want to take a long-term positive from this, that is one.

I am afraid its going to take a toppling of both current regime and IRGC. Whether that is a coordinated strike with special forces together with a massive airstrike(s), IDK.

If you negotiate a settlement to where their nuke capability, and the desire for them, is not completely removed, then what was the whole point of this? They also cannot be allowed control the strait. If they do, again what was the point? I mean seriously, the level of stupid would be approaching that of aggie football over most of the last 50 years.

Sgt. Schultz said:

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I am afraid its going to take a toppling of both current regime and IRGC. Whether that is a coordinated strike with special forces together with a massive airstrike(s), IDK.

If you negotiate a settlement to where their nuke capability, and the desire for them, is not completely removed, then what was the whole point of this? They also cannot be allowed control the strait. If they do, again what was the point? I mean seriously, the level of stupid would be approaching that of aggie football over most of the last 50 years.

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I'm pretty sure the issue with them being able to easily control the Strait will get somewhat solved longterm. That's an easy enough, but costly fix with new oil pipelines and possibly new ports.

I don't see how taking out the current regime and IRGC happens without a lot of dead American soldiers and billions of dollars spent. This country doesn't have a desire or stomach for another "Afghanistan like" never ending war even if it should happen and makes sense.

As I said on election night, another 9/11 may just need to happen to wake some people up. I'm not advocating for it but it may be the only way amd it's very possible with who's about to be in charge.