Diesel export ban coming?

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Bad Trump. Rhetoric from DC really heating up on this. Lots of implications with this one that I think are unforeseen by those promoting this idea. I think refiners are going to simply not produce as much if they can't export (which by the way also impacts the whole distillate chain; gas, Jet-A, etc.). Secondly, a lot of refining facilities are just going to start long delayed turnarounds (everybody has been running all out to meet demand). Mexico (source of produce and other consumer goods) and Latin America are going to be hit hard with no apparent alternative sources of supply right now. Feels like we are trading expensive fuel for expensive items in the store in the long-run.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/23/white-house-ban-diesel-01089294
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Bad Trump you say? Must be another day that ends in y.
2wealfth Man
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FWTXAg said:

Bad Trump you say? Must be another day that ends in y.

In all honesty, this seems to have started with Grassley in the Senate and complaining farmers. But the idea has caught momentum administration-wise.
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Yeah, this is a dumb idea that won't do a thing to help inflation or the economy. End the damn wars, that's the only lever here.
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Refining will continue to push rates but clearly with any downtime it will have a oversized impact and coverage as we've seen over the last week or 2 of US refineries having power issues including petrochemical plants being confused with oil refineries.
But, with cooler weather coming the mix of lighter feedstock and higher rates will help manage distillate pools as maintenance season ramps up into the new year
If any and all turn arounds can be pushed they will be and if they can be minimized in their time they are being done. The ones that are longer and are taken as scheduled are for already delayed maintenance that has to be done, but do not be surprised if the shutdowns are shorter than advertised as when the major work is done and they can put the unit back in service the other jobs will be canceled and put on the scheduled weekly maintenance.
The export ban would be crazy cause even if you ban condensate or oil exports you won't really drive down the cost of refined products. And if they ban the export of finished refined products the refineries will just lower rates to still balance costs and profits... anyone who thinks bans will help us is fooling themselves as no refinery company will make products in a negative profit environment for long without cutting rates and rebalancing the market.

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flashplayer said:

Yeah, this is a dumb idea that won't do a thing to help inflation or the economy. End the damn wars, that's the only lever here.



Its a refining issue, not an oil price issue
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Reduces refiners margins by taking away customers willing to pay higher prices for product . Also how
Much of the domestic high price is really driven by transport and storage constraints rather than actual diesel supply constraints ? Maybe some sort of very temporary pause or reduction to get storage topped off would be ok but longer term it seems like a bad idea to me.
2wealfth Man
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If this happens, refining oriented stock prices are going to crash for a bit. Great entry points for investing if you want to hold for a bit thereafter. Q3 numbers for the refiners are going to be bonkers based on recent crack spreads. (Group 3 2-1-1 for example, north of $80 bbl; national 3-2-1 is $72 bbl)
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Why these half-measures? Set a price ceiling already! The government can fix this free market problem.
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Time to retire Chuck
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PaulsBunions said:



Time to retire Chuck

Iowa farmers will do fine with Dec corn trading around $5.25
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PaulsBunions said:



Time to retire Chuck

Someone's been taking texting advice from his grand daughter too seriously
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Luigi Vampa said:

PaulsBunions said:



Time to retire Chuck

Someone's been taking texting advice from his grand daughter too seriously


Dude is so old his grandson was born in 1983. He must be getting texting advice from his great granddaughter at this point
5Amp
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A restriction or quota going overseas

That would be a hard yes from me.
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Oh, joy I am sure that there will not be any backlash from the rest of the world on items that we need like food, rare earth elements, electronics, etc. I mean I am sure they will be fine with us saying no diesel for you, but we still want all of our cheap goods that you provide. Oh, you need diesel to make them well that's your problem, but don't you dare raise your prices or stop shipping to us or else.
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First drop the federal tax on diesel ~$0.25 (at least temporarily) and then put pressure on the states to do the same. That will be a good start.
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Good trump
“…What?”

- Joe Biden
normalhorn
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This is Bad Trump.

If you work in the O/G sector, especially in refining or trading capacity, I'd really like to hear why you believe it's a good idea
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
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https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/news/2026/09/22/a-diesel-export-ban-would-wreak-havoc-at-home-and-abroad-heres-why

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The takeaway.

Restricting exports is not a solution to high prices. Removing U.S. diesel from the market could instead result in reduced refinery runs, global economic damage and even higher U.S. prices.

Keeping trade flowing gives U.S. refineries the flexibility to keep producing and helps ensure more diesel is available in a tight global market.

https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/news/2026/09/23/what-they-are-saying-us-diesel-export-ban-is-a-bad-idea

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[url=https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/news/2026/09/23/what-they-are-saying-us-diesel-export-ban-is-a-bad-idea][/url]Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): "It would have massive harm to the refining industry. We refine more diesel than we consume, and it would end up forcing refiners to reduce production. So it would backfire badly."

[url=https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/news/2026/09/23/what-they-are-saying-us-diesel-export-ban-is-a-bad-idea][/url]
normalhorn
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I think there are other mechanisms that can be applied and would yield better results, but I agree with the thought process
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
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doubledog said:

First drop the federal tax on diesel ~$0.25 (at least temporarily) and then put pressure on the states to do the same. That will be a good start.

Farm diesel isnt taxed
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I'm just fully convinced his sycophant, low IQ administration has no idea what they're doing anymore.
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Hoyt Ag
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Agreed. They stirred up a hornets nest that they under estimated and have no idea how to get out of this mess
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Awesome. Great timing on my part to start a job an hour away!
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t_J_e_C_x said:



I'm just fully convinced his sycophant, low IQ administration has no idea what they're doing anymore.


You think the administration is, or ever has been, anyone but Trump? At least according to Trump?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Hoyt Ag said:

Agreed. They stirred up a hornets nest that they under estimated and have no idea how to get out of this mess

100%. And now his ego is getting in the way of a good solution.
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Trump, you can't ban diesel exports… my royalties may go down from the high they are currently at
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flashplayer said:

Yeah, this is a dumb idea that won't do a thing to help inflation or the economy. End the damn wars, that's the only lever here.

If we don't finish off Iran while we have them on the ropes that will be a problem for decades. Amazes me how people don't see this. You can argue that we shouldn't have gone in but the window was there and the value in taking Iran off the chessboard as a threat has incredible upside.
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FWIW I don't see Trump actually doing this but I do see him using the threat of doing it to his advantage in dealing with Europe and elsewhere. He is also using it to virtue signal to farmers he is putting all options on the table.

Actually doing it is a bad idea though.
Rapier108
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For whatever its worth, according to Reuters, there is no ban coming.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-diesel-futures-fall-after-report-export-ban-plan-which-white-house-denies-2026-09-23/
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Logos Stick said:

flashplayer said:

Yeah, this is a dumb idea that won't do a thing to help inflation or the economy. End the damn wars, that's the only lever here.



Its a refining issue, not an oil price issue


More specifically is a specific type of oil feed stock supply issue. Our refineries are optimized for a heavy crude. They need middle east, Venezuelan/ Columbian, or Canadian crude.
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No Spin Ag said:

t_J_e_C_x said:



I'm just fully convinced his sycophant, low IQ administration has no idea what they're doing anymore.


You think the administration is, or ever has been, anyone but Trump? At least according to Trump?


I was being kind to them... I don't think they ever knew what they were doing cause I never believed Trump had a clue what he's doing either.
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Rapier108 said:

For whatever its worth, according to Reuters, there is no ban coming.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-diesel-futures-fall-after-report-export-ban-plan-which-white-house-denies-2026-09-23/
god bless whoever leaked the plan to the press and thereby forced them to scrap it after the blowback
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Old McDonald said:

Rapier108 said:

For whatever its worth, according to Reuters, there is no ban coming.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-diesel-futures-fall-after-report-export-ban-plan-which-white-house-denies-2026-09-23/
god bless whoever leaked the plan to the press and thereby forced them to scrap it after the blowback


Energy Secretary already said this morning while everyone was reeeing that this wasn't going to happen. He did an interview with the WSJ pretty shortly after Trump bloviated on that. You can see my post from hours ago on this.

And Chuck Grassely needs to STFU. Pretty much everyone out there is against this.
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t_J_e_C_x said:



I'm just fully convinced his sycophant, low IQ administration has no idea what they're doing anymore.


I really trust a twitter handle called head in the office.

The talk on this thread is by a handful of people who don't know what they're talking about.

The liberals are against it, so it must be the right thing to do.
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