Political commentor Erick Erickson (right leaning) for the past few days has been exposing the growing ultra right wing movement in conservative political circles and is taking flak for it.

https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/the-midwestern-fuhrerbunker-driving

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A group of white guys have subtly inserted themselves into conservative institutions and church organizations. They all embrace racial grievances. To varying degrees, they embrace white nationalism, antisemitism, and even Nazi sympathies. They are getting added to conservative institutional boards, attempting to purge churches, and are desperate to indoctrinate young conservatives into fascist ideology. They even surround the Vice President of the United States. Some of them believe the United States is at a tipping point, and they want to push it over the edge and rebuild it in their image. You might think it does not affect you, but, in time, you will see their efforts in your church pews, in your kids' brains, and in your politicians' mouths. It begins with shampoo.
Charles Haywood made his fortune selling shampoo. He sold his Indianapolis hair care company in 2020, and he has spent the years since writing out, at length and under his own name, what he would like to do with your country. Rod Dreher, who is no man of the left, read Haywood's online ramblings and described Haywood as pouring out vile from "deep in his Midwestern Fhrerbunker".
In a document he calls the Foundationalist Manifesto, Haywood explained that his preferred government "will not be democratic." The state "will have unlimited means," because "properly viewed, the state is not constrained externally." Women "will not be permitted to choose career over family." Men "will not be permitted to choose not to have a family." The state will seize the assets of "any citizen who views himself as a global citizen.

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Much of the racism, antisemitism, and Nazi sympathies growing on the right are interconnected. Let me explain how. pic.twitter.com/bG4ZtcLKnG

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) September 16, 2026

He is also linking VP Vance to this

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Vice President Vance has refused to distance himself from the groyper movement and will not forcefully denounce the antisemites. Rod Dreher, who had been his friend and an early champion of his memoir, went to him last fall and urged him to draw that line. Dreher says Vance cut him off and the friendship is over. Unfortunately, the Vice President keeps all of it within arm's reach. Haywood's foundation is a recurring funder of American Moment, the staffing pipeline founded in 2021 with Vance's support, which exists to place young conservatives in administration jobs. Vance has identified himself with the postliberal right on a stage with Patrick Deneen and Kevin Roberts, and told that audience there is no meaningful distinction between the public and the private sector in the American regime. That is not a slip of the tongue. He believes it.

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The deception across the entire religious and political spectrum is astounding. Satan has really ramped it up over the past 5 years.

Keep watch. Guard yourself. It's too easy to fall for it on either side.

Do most neo-Nazis marry and have children with Indian-American women, or is that just part of Vance's deep cover operation?

There are extremes on both ends of the parties.

he cooked with this one

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This is ultimately a spiritual problem rather than a political one. Inside the church, Satan spreads kinism, racism, and ethno-nationalism, and he does it by telling frightened men that their blood is their birthright.

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The Fall Guy said:

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There are extremes on both ends of the parties.

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If I had to choose, I'll take the right wing over the left-wing extremists. But neither is good.

Nazis were what we would call left leaning in today's terminology.

I have no idea who Charles Haywood even is but I think we can all agree that universal suffrage/women voting is an absolute nightmare. Our Founding Fathers were explicitly against it. Are we to the point of calling our Founding Fathers nazis?.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Nazis were what we would call left leaning in today's terminology.

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Yes. National (Democratic) Socialists.

these two passages sum it up pretty nicely:

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In a document he calls the Foundationalist Manifesto, Haywood explained that his preferred government "will not be democratic." The state "will have unlimited means," because "properly viewed, the state is not constrained externally." Women "will not be permitted to choose career over family." Men "will not be permitted to choose not to have a family." The state will seize the assets of "any citizen who views himself as a global citizen."

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Conservatives spent sixty years arguing that the family and the local community, not the state, should decide what the good life looks like. The socialist left rejected that because it loves the collective. The postliberal right now rejects it because it is certain it knows better than your household does. Haywood has written down what the second position requires and funded the intellectual enforcers to bully and silence dissent on the right. These men and their groups' ambitions require a state with unlimited means that can seize a man's property for thinking the wrong thoughts about his own country.

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Lance Uppercut said:

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Do most neo-Nazis marry and have children with Indian-American women, or is that just part of Vance's deep cover operation?

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Truth, thank you. Idiots claiming VP Vance is in any way associated with Nazis is complete utter garbage. They probably still think President Trump is a Nazis.
I think the appropriate term is useful idiots.

Well I am a nationalist, but not a socialist. So the left should pick a more accurate slur for me I suppose.

The woke right and the DSA are opposite sides of the same political coin, but both have the same ideological goals of imposing their version of a totalitarian state, and eliminating Israel and Jewish people.

The DSA is close to taking over the Democrat Party and are the real threat to this country.

The knuckle draggers of the woke right are a bunch of loudmouths online and little else. Heck, many of their so called leaders like Tucker and Fuentes are openly supporting the DSA.

This sounds like the 90s tactic of trying to hang David Duke around the neck of every Republican.

The Fall Guy said:

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There are extremes on both ends of the parties.

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Yes there are some radical right that the Republican party routinely distances themselves from.

However,
the Leftist Progressive movement is seizing control of the Democratic Party and violence is their tool

• 2 assassination attempts on the President
• Killing an Insurance executive celebrated by useful idiots
• Assassination of Charlie Kirk for having open dialog with opponents
• The George Floyd riots causing billions of $ in damage and the deaths of at least 40 people
• Democratic leaders and Judges releasing violent criminals into the population resulting in thousands of deaths.
• Violent demonstrations and firebombing of Tesla dealerships.

There are hundreds more examples.

On the leftist insane side these miscreants are claiming a new wave of lynchiings. They ignore the FACT that of the 10 examples, 9 were suicides and one was a black man hung by another black man.

Your argument is on its face ridiculous at best.

I've said before and I'll say again, I have a significant dislike for both the Socialist Totalitarianism of the left and the Theocratic Totalitarianism of the right.

They are no different to me. Both seek to rule and oppress through the heavy hand of an armed government. **** all of them.

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I've said before and I'll say again, I have a significant dislike for both the Socialist Totalitarianism of the left and the Theocratic Totalitarianism of the right.

They are no different to me. Both seek to rule and oppress through the heavy hand of an armed government. **** all of them.

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Sorry, I could not have any less respect for anyone who believes mentally ill men belong in my daughter's sports, showers or locker rooms. Or that pretends to have trouble with defining what a woman is. I genuinely respect neo-nazis more, and see them as less of a threat to me and my family. And I don't respect neo-nazis, but everything is relative.

When you import a new demos, representative democracy becomes futile.

There is also an element of a patriarchal right emerging as a response to the matriarchal left.

also relevant:

GeorgiAg said:

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Political commentor Erick Erickson (right leaning) for the past few days has been exposing the growing ultra right wing movement in conservative political circles and is taking flak for it.

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Your mistake is buying into the left's characterization of Nazis as 'ultra right wing'.

Nazis are not what you get when you turn personal responsibility, limited government and anti-regulation policies up to 11.

Delete thread, ban user.