Canada and Associate Membership of the European Union

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This move sets up the globalists so that they can ship their Muslim hordes from Europe to Canada and be on our doorstep easily through EU immigration policy.

We need to start building a wall on our northern border stat.
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FTAG 2000 said:

This move sets up the globalists so that they can ship their Muslim hordes from Europe to Canada and be on our doorstep easily through EU immigration policy.

We need to start building a wall on our northern border stat.


I would be sinking those boats.
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LOL, Dimon just dunking on Europe.

He's right, you know.
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FTAG 2000 said:

This move sets up the globalists so that they can ship their Muslim hordes from Europe to Canada and be on our doorstep easily through EU immigration policy.

We need to start building a wall on our northern border stat.

no need for a wall.

when the dems take over in 2028 they will just open the borders like the legs of a cheap hooker.
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They did that, it's called Europe. The GDP of Europe has gone from 90% of America to 70%.



When I went to Europe for the first time in 1999, you could see a slight difference in living standards, but you could say, "they have smaller cars and homes, but the parks and trains are wonderful."

Almost 30 years later, taking my kids back to the same places, it's a much bigger difference. Economic growth naturally compounds, or the gap compounds.
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As Carney 'pivots' to Europe Canadians are backing a cool billion to European Kiev to pay 'pensions' (not in any way money laundering related) etc.



Personally, I think the censorship/internet police are the primary attraction. The leftist Aussies are now talking about doing likewise, fwiw. MI5 is an impressive operation.
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In between doing a lot of good things, Trump does a lot of stupid things, and his handling of Canada is right at the top. I'm all for getting a better deal with Canada, but Trump has gone about it in a way that seems highly unlikely to achieve the desired result. Whoever follows Trump will probably be able to reverse this, as Carney's idiotic European pivot is madness, and, stupid though the Canadians may be when it comes to the US right now, they aren't THAT stupid (I think...guess we'll find out).
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I think we can all agree Trump is bombastic and a narcissist.

However, Carney is worse. This dude thinks Canada is Europe's savior and joining them is somehow going to catapult Canada and the EU beyond the USA as some kind of new powerhouse entity.

Absolutely incredible delusion.
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Canada agreed to a trade deal. Carney reneged. Canada will suffer because of Carney.

To Carney: Pleure moi une salope de rivire.


No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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EU regulations are going to tank the Canadian economy.
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lb3 said:

EU regulations are going to tank the Canadian economy.


That and creating massive friction for their supply chains which he clearly knows nothing about. He's doing the opposite of what the world learned they should do less of during COVID which is maintaining supply chains far from home.

This is the most braindead economic policy I've ever seen attempted to try and replace the largest economy on the planet, which is your direct neighbor and lifeblood, with a lesser tier EU that is an ocean away.

I honestly can't believe he is this stupid.
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bobbranco said:

Canada agreed to a trade deal. Carney reneged. Canada will suffer because of Carney.

To Carney: Pleure moi une salope de rivire.

Canada has Carney because Trump undermined Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives, who were set to win the last election before Trump blew things up. Someone with some political sense would have kept their power dry and gotten a better partner to work with, but not Trump.
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twk said:

bobbranco said:

Canada agreed to a trade deal. Carney reneged. Canada will suffer because of Carney.

To Carney: Pleure moi une salope de rivire.

Canada has Carney because Trump undermined Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives, who were set to win the last election before Trump blew things up. Someone with some political sense would have kept their power dry and gotten a better partner to work with, but not Trump.


Poilievre did not want to meet with Trump.

Maybe the woke right or China basturdized the truth.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/12/pierre-poilievre-canada-us-relations-trump-00823920

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Poilievre has not forged the relationships required to become a "serious" partner for any Republican administration, the GOP operative said, whether under Trump or someone else. "He doesn't have a relationship with the U.S., that's the thing," they said. "The only thing people here know about Poilievre is that apple-crunching video and that he lost an election he should have won."



No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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Of course he didn't meet with Trump. Carney was using Trump as his foil. It would have been stupid to do that. What needed to happen was for Trump to just keep quiet for a little while, then the Liberals would have been out, and the Conservatives, who depend on Western Canada for support, would have been in.

It was a classic own goal by Trump. Carney's only card is playing the Trump card, and Donald just keeps making that a winning play. Thanks to term limits, Trump won't be around long enough for the chickens to come home to roost, but then again, Trump never likes playing the long game.
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Enlightening when even Biden's guy was advising him to meet with Trump. I did not know this. I was actually in the camp that thought Trump owned goal that election back then, but it looks like Pollywoo **** the bed first.
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Trumps take was that Carney would be easier to deal with. Maybe he was wrong. Or maybe he sees Carney as a lousy and predictable negotiator/foe. His inability to even constrain that memes are triggering to him makes me think the latter is true.


Ultimately it doesn't matter as CPC won't be winning any elections until the leftists/democrat advisors there run their economy into the ground completely.
bobbranco
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Keep blaming Trump. Thanks Tucker for the gaslight.


No amount of logic is going to convince the illogical that orange man isn't so bad that we should all vote for socialists in 2026. He wants to vote for a socialist who wants to kill the O&G industry, dismantle capitalism, open the borders, ban guns, legalize abortion up to birth, allow men to play girls sports and hang out in women's locker rooms, and pay for trans surgeries for little kids. SIGNED txags92
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It's such a stupid idea that I don't totally believe him.

It sounds more like something you'd say to try to panic the US border states and try to influenced their elections
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Maroon Dawn said:

It's such a stupid idea that I don't totally believe him.

It sounds more like something you'd say to try to panic the US border states and try to influenced their elections

I think you might be correct considering he has US Democrat operates in his cabinet.

I really don't think he's this stupid. Surely not....
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Now he's getting shot down by the euroweenies even? LOL.
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WSJ is reporting forward motion on associate membership, including some sort of quasi-Schengen.

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/eu-chief-floats-plan-to-make-canada-first-associate-member-da300f13?st=UFB75J&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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Another nation not serving the interests of it's people.
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Certainly, this debacle does not serve America's interests. The town of Richmond is now powered by President Monroe, spinning in his grave.

To be very clear, our opening negotiating position was "I respect neither your sovereignty nor your territorial integrity."

Canada, like Denmark, is wise to cultivate alternatives, even poor alternatives.
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It is all about globalism versus nationalism. Trump won't let the rest of the world use the US as a sugar daddy any more, that can be stolen from with impunity. Unfortunately the DIMs and Republican RINOs here at home are predominately globalists who have lost their leftist minds. It isn't an accident that the northern states bordering Canada are filled with those liberal globalists who want to give American away to rest of the world.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Another nation not serving the interests of it's people.


Carney seems well-aligned with public opinion.

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. A poll this week from Abacus Data found that more than 80% of Canadians support strengthening links with Europe while Canada remains outside of Europe, with a majority saying they feel Canada has more in common with Europe than the U.S. Nearly half said they backed Canada becoming an EU member state.
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The trade war with Canada will go just as well as Trumps other wars.
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Vestal_Flame said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Another nation not serving the interests of it's people.


Carney seems well-aligned with public opinion.

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. A poll this week from Abacus Data found that more than 80% of Canadians support strengthening links with Europe while Canada remains outside of Europe, with a majority saying they feel Canada has more in common with Europe than the U.S. Nearly half said they backed Canada becoming an EU member state.



Public opinion is shaped through propaganda. Leaders recognize this and act in accordance with proven strategies to improve the economy. Canada will end up isolating itself and the people will pay the price.
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Lots of globalists here crying and bleeding to keep letting Canada take advantage of us with tariffs and dumping banned Chinese exports into our market because it makes them feel good to let the rest of the world take advantage of us
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amercer said:

The trade war with Canada will go just as well as Trumps other wars.

Like he destroyed the ISIS Caliphate and ***** slapped Russia in Syria? Canada is playing with fire.
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flyrancher said:

It is all about globalism versus nationalism. Trump won't let the rest of the world use the US as a sugar daddy any more, that can be stolen from with impunity. Unfortunately the DIMs and Republican RINOs here at home are predominately globalists who have lost their leftist minds. It isn't an accident that the northern states bordering Canada are filled with those liberal globalists who want to give American away to rest of the world.

This with a heavy dose of Chinese influence. The trade war is the public visible part of the iceberg. Below the surface US and Canada are in disagreement with rooting out Chinese influence in the hemisphere, Canada paying it's share to NATO, securing the US/Canada border, etc. There is way more to this spat than trade.
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I am reminded of Operation Intercept.

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G. Gordon Liddy would later state, "For diplomatic reasons the true purpose of the exercise was never revealed. Operation Intercept, with its massive economic and social disruption, could be sustained far longer by the United States than by Mexico. It was an exercise in international extortion, pure, simple, and effective, designed to bend Mexico to our will." When the operation was ceased, it was replaced by Operation Cooperation, a new anti-drug agreement aiming at designing a shared strategy in fighting drug trafficking. According to Kate Doyle, senior analyst of the National Security Archive, the operation was a success for Nixon on three levels: he gained law-and-order stamina, made Mexico bend to his demands, and started a war on drugs that would last for decades


Operation Intercept - Wikipedia

The stated goals are not the real goals, and the resulting outcomes may not be the intended outcomes.
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Point taken.
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Like he destroyed the ISIS Caliphate and ***** slapped Russia in Syria? Canada is playing with fire.


Not great examples.


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Windy City Ag said:

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Like he destroyed the ISIS Caliphate and ***** slapped Russia in Syria? Canada is playing with fire.


Not great examples.




Just clarifying that his "wars" aren't all like Iran which was the implication.
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Alas, I felt as though there was significantly more of a coherent strategy in the first iteration.
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