Paxton vs Talarico [See Staff Note in OP]

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Old McDonald said:
the fact that talarico went on fox news to take questions at all kind of undermines the paxton team's excuses for him ducking debates

talarico clearly isn't afraid to enter an adversarial room and answer pointed questions meant to make him look bad in front of a hostile audience. why is paxton?

Because people vote based on feelings, and not policy.

If they voted on policy, a debate would be a good idea for Paxton.

But Talarico, for all his faults, has the better 'image'. He looks the part. He has impressively crafted his image to appeal to the low IQ voters. Style over substance. And he's now changing all of his previous messages to match.

If I were in Paxton's camp, I'd advise him against a debate as well. It's solely an image thing.
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The debate would absolutely be slanted in favor of Low T. Democrats get softball questions and Republicans get set ups designed to twist reality.
Danny Vermin
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Sherrill in New Jersey is the perfect example of how Talarico would be. Lied to get elected and immediately went full DSA. Good thing he will never sit in that Senate seat.
#FJB
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Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey, Spanbeger in Virginia

both radical socialists that posed as "moderates" to get elected.
Danny Vermin
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I'll edit that but yeah, liars .
#FJB
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oh no said:

Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey, Spanbeger in Virginia

both radical socialists that posed as "moderates" to get elected.

Rs need to start doing this
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Old McDonald said:

nortex97 said:


Reinforcing that he is a vacuous coward.

the fact that talarico went on fox news to take questions at all kind of undermines the paxton team's excuses for him ducking debates

talarico clearly isn't afraid to enter an adversarial room and answer pointed questions meant to make him look bad in front of a hostile audience. why is paxton?

But Talarico is not taking questions and defending his positions that he's had in the past. He's running FROM his prior positions in the attempt to appear moderate for the electorate.

It's the Spanberger play.

And it's not going to work.

So tell me, why does Talarico have to make his positions appear more like Paxton's, and Paxton doesn't feel the need to move his positions leftward?
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Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

nortex97 said:


Reinforcing that he is a vacuous coward.

the fact that talarico went on fox news to take questions at all kind of undermines the paxton team's excuses for him ducking debates

talarico clearly isn't afraid to enter an adversarial room and answer pointed questions meant to make him look bad in front of a hostile audience. why is paxton?


Why do you assume he's "afraid"? Perhaps you're missing another very obvious possibility here?

probably the same reason he was relegated to a matinee speaking spot at the convention, and doesn't even appear or speak in his own campaign ads

I'm not electing Paxton to speak, or to look pretty. I'm electing him to vote in accordance with my values and beliefs.

I have infinitely more faith in Paxton to do so than I do Mr. Talarico. HTH.
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jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

nortex97 said:


Reinforcing that he is a vacuous coward.

the fact that talarico went on fox news to take questions at all kind of undermines the paxton team's excuses for him ducking debates

talarico clearly isn't afraid to enter an adversarial room and answer pointed questions meant to make him look bad in front of a hostile audience. why is paxton?


Why do you assume he's "afraid"? Perhaps you're missing another very obvious possibility here?

probably the same reason he was relegated to a matinee speaking spot at the convention, and doesn't even appear or speak in his own campaign ads

I'm not electing Paxton to speak. I'm electing him to vote in accordance with my values and beliefs.

I have infinitely more faith in Paxton to do so than I do Mr. Talarico. HTH.

This is it.
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samurai_science said:

jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

nortex97 said:


Reinforcing that he is a vacuous coward.

the fact that talarico went on fox news to take questions at all kind of undermines the paxton team's excuses for him ducking debates

talarico clearly isn't afraid to enter an adversarial room and answer pointed questions meant to make him look bad in front of a hostile audience. why is paxton?




Why do you assume he's "afraid"? Perhaps you're missing another very obvious possibility here?

probably the same reason he was relegated to a matinee speaking spot at the convention, and doesn't even appear or speak in his own campaign ads

I'm not electing Paxton to speak. I'm electing him to vote in accordance with my values and beliefs.

I have infinitely more faith in Paxton to do so than I do Mr. Talarico. HTH.

This is it.


Doubt, if elected , Falarico would have time of day for a conservative.
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I'm not electing Paxton to speak, or to look pretty. I'm electing him to vote in accordance with my values and beliefs.

Exactly. He's going to vote for the majority of what I agree we should do from a policy standpoint. That's all I care about. I don't care about his personal life. Simple as that.
Old McDonald
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the "repeal the 19th" chuds are frying paxton in the comments for this one
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Old McDonald said:

the "repeal the 19th" chuds are frying paxton in the comments for this one



Can you ask your candidate which of the 6 genders this should apply to?
jrdaustin
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Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy

hmmm, let's test it a little more...

January 2022
unemployment: 4.0%
CPI: 7.5%
real gdp growth: NEGATIVE 1.6%
brent crude: $ 86-92

January 2023
unemployment: 3.4%
CPI: 6.4%
real gdp growth: 1.1%
brent crude: $ 82.50

And for fun... brent crude end of June, 2026 - $73.

Cherry picking is a *****, ain't it?
TAMU1990
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This is what got Cornyn fired
Old McDonald
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jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy

hmmm, let's test it a little more...

January 2022
unemployment: 4.0%
CPI: 7.5%
real gdp growth: NEGATIVE 1.6%
brent crude: $ 86-92

January 2023
unemployment: 3.4%
CPI: 6.4%
real gdp growth: 1.1%
brent crude: $ 82.50

Cherry picking is a *****, ain't it?

so you want voters to give republicans credit for improving an economy that had already improved by the time they came back into power, and ignore that it's gotten worse since? that's a tall ask, one might even say it's nonsensical
Ragoo
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Old McDonald said:

jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy

hmmm, let's test it a little more...

January 2022
unemployment: 4.0%
CPI: 7.5%
real gdp growth: NEGATIVE 1.6%
brent crude: $ 86-92

January 2023
unemployment: 3.4%
CPI: 6.4%
real gdp growth: 1.1%
brent crude: $ 82.50

Cherry picking is a *****, ain't it?

so you want voters to give republicans credit for improving an economy that had already improved by the time they came back into power, and ignore that it's gotten worse since? that's a tall ask, one might even say it's nonsensical
how has the economy gotten worse? We are seeing unprecedented levels of infrastructure investment in this country right now.
Old McDonald
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already answered in the quote chain you responded to
jrdaustin
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Old McDonald said:

jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy

hmmm, let's test it a little more...

January 2022
unemployment: 4.0%
CPI: 7.5%
real gdp growth: NEGATIVE 1.6%
brent crude: $ 86-92

January 2023
unemployment: 3.4%
CPI: 6.4%
real gdp growth: 1.1%
brent crude: $ 82.50

Cherry picking is a *****, ain't it?

so you want voters to give republicans credit for improving an economy that had already improved by the time they came back into power, and ignore that it's gotten worse since? that's a tall ask, one might even say it's nonsensical

To remind you, this was the quote that you responded to:

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for.

I'm arguing that his quote is correct, and your single point in time test of the theory after Biden was ousted was a non sequitur. In fact, it's very much like Talarico's tactic of "look at what I'm saying today, not what I've consistently done in the past".

You realize that in January 1980, the Iranians released the hostages on the day Reagan was inaugurated after 444 days in captivity under Carter. But under your logic, it seems Carter should be the one credited for their release.

And to keep this Paxton vs. Talarico related, I firmly believe that continued mass illegal immigration, eliminating prisons, and demonizing ICE will do noting to improve the economy in the future.
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Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.
what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.
hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy


Why don't you compare the entire timeline of that pile of **** you voted for? Not the post election uptick that happened because they were finally out on their f'n ass?
it's the same if you compare october 2024 to today. fact of the matter is, the economy is worse on the headline metrics today than it was when trump was elected, largely due to trump's own policies, and it isn't exactly a secret voters are angry with him over it. it's a major reason why this senate race is close and not a slam dunk for the republican candidate.


Buddy, no matter how but you dodge my direct question it will be obvious everyone that you're dodging the direct question your cherry picking dates. Everyone here knows that the economy by every measure was worse under Joe Biden, and it was under the first Trump presidency, as well as this one thus far the Trump policies you were referring to the war, and Iran tariffs are long term strategic goals that have a greater purpose than short-term electability. surely you can comprehend a world where leaders I'll be it against their own self interest when it comes to being reelected do things for the greater good hopefully you understand that and hopefully you want leaders who do that. But you're a democrat so I can see why you wouldn't think that way or have any feelings about the long-term success of America. You're talking about a country trying to build a nuclear weapon to murder us all. You're talking about countries that have taken advantage of us for years with their tariff policies and yet you shutter at the idea that one of our presidents would finally have the nerve to push back, knowing what we offer the world in a relative sense.

It's absolutely incredible that you believe these things but again the party that you vote for makes all the sense in the world, considering that you do.
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Old McDonald said:

jrdaustin said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy

hmmm, let's test it a little more...

January 2022
unemployment: 4.0%
CPI: 7.5%
real gdp growth: NEGATIVE 1.6%
brent crude: $ 86-92

January 2023
unemployment: 3.4%
CPI: 6.4%
real gdp growth: 1.1%
brent crude: $ 82.50

Cherry picking is a *****, ain't it?

so you want voters to give republicans credit for improving an economy that had already improved by the time they came back into power, and ignore that it's gotten worse since? that's a tall ask, one might even say it's nonsensical


Please explain what Democrat driven policies specifically led to an improving economy? You can't once again it depends on the way you measure "economy." we all know Democrats have no problem redefining the metrics there of such as what a recession is in order to try to make themselves look better. They're the scum of the Earth.
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I would never let my candidate take part in a "debate" in a campaign. First off, it isn't a debate. Secondly the moderators are often harder on Republicans/conservatives than they are on democrats/liberals. I would do ad after ad, video clip after video clip proclaiming my candidates accomplishments, ideas, and plans going forward, and do ad after ad, video clip after video clip revealing what my opponent as said over and over again. There is a lot of material on talafreako to work with. And it is him actually saying the words, not some interpretation of what someone thinks he believes.
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Oh yeah, I totally believe him.
samurai_science
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Waffledynamics said:



Oh yeah, I totally believe him.

Saying he backs a national ban is pandering because that will never come up for a serious vote.
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Waffledynamics said:



Oh yeah, I totally believe him.
His internal polling must be terrible for him to take this stance. Some of his loony brethren are going to be ticked.
"Well, doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic, if you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
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Waffledynamics said:



Oh yeah, I totally believe him.

Abagail Spanberger on the campaign trail: "I have no plans to redistrict Virginia"

Abagail Spanberger as Governor of Virginia: I'm voting 'yes' to redistrict Virginia.
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It's hilarious in order to attract people who will never vote for him, he is willing to alienate his true base.
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People, will you please STOP spreading the lie that Talarico said there are 6 genders.

He specifically stated there are 6 SEXES which is objectively worse.
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BQ78 said:

It's hilarious in order to attract people who will never vote for him, he is willing to alienate his true base.

They are true believers who know he is just doing what he needs to do to get elected. The real dupes are the independents and wobbly RINOs believing what he says now.
Old McDonald
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Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

Old McDonald said:

Jack Boyette said:

The economy and immigration are heavily correlated, genius. Illegals depress wages and increase housing costs for these Hispanics.

what's next, illegals are to blame for the iran war, gas prices, and tariffs too?



Wait…are you disputing what I said? Or not? That's a deflection because you can't.

Do illegals use gas? What do you think their use of gas here does to the price of gas here?

This is why you vote for Democrats; you have absolutely zero concept or basic economics.

The hilarious part of all of this is that the economy is better under Trump - despite the war, tariffs, etc. - than it was under the demented dumbass you voted for. This has been stated multiple times here and yet you continually ignore disputing it. Why?

We know why.

hmm let's test this theory and compare january 2025 to today

unemployment: 4.0% then, 4.1% now
CPI: 3% then, 3.4% now
real gdp growth: 2.3% then, 1.5% now
brent crude: $76 then, $100 now

sounds like fake news to me, perhaps hispanic voters in texas are right to sour on republicans on the economy


Why don't you compare the entire timeline of that pile of **** you voted for? Not the post election uptick that happened because they were finally out on their f'n ass?

it's the same if you compare october 2024 to today. fact of the matter is, the economy is worse on the headline metrics today than it was when trump was elected, largely due to trump's own policies, and it isn't exactly a secret voters are angry with him over it. it's a major reason why this senate race is close and not a slam dunk for the republican candidate.


Buddy, no matter how but you dodge my direct question it will be obvious everyone that you're dodging the direct question your cherry picking dates. Everyone here knows that the economy by every measure was worse under Joe Biden, and it was under the first Trump presidency, as well as this one thus far the Trump policies you were referring to the war, and Iran tariffs are long term strategic goals that have a greater purpose than short-term electability. surely you can comprehend a world where leaders I'll be it against their own self interest when it comes to being reelected do things for the greater good hopefully you understand that and hopefully you want leaders who do that. But you're a democrat so I can see why you wouldn't think that way or have any feelings about the long-term success of America. You're talking about a country trying to build a nuclear weapon to murder us all. You're talking about countries that have taken advantage of us for years with their tariff policies and yet you shutter at the idea that one of our presidents would finally have the nerve to push back, knowing what we offer the world in a relative sense.

It's absolutely incredible that you believe these things but again the party that you vote for makes all the sense in the world, considering that you do.

there's a lot wrong in your reasoning here, but to address it would derail the thread. to steer this back to the senate race: republicans won the trifecta in 2024 on the backs of voters who wanted a reversal of the economic turbulence they experienced during the pandemic years. trump's policies directly reversed the economic improvement trend he inherited, and that's a major reason why he and his surrogates (paxton included) are currently finding themselves playing defense in what were safe republican seats just two years ago.
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samurai_science said:

Waffledynamics said:



Oh yeah, I totally believe him.

Saying he backs a national ban is pandering because that will never come up for a serious vote.

The fact that he felt the need to make such a statement given his clear track record on gender issues must mean his internal polling isn't what his sunshine pumpers are telling us it is.

It would be like Paxton coming out and saying he wouldn't vote for more border wall and enforcement.
Waffledynamics
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Talarico's numbers may not be good, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a shortage of enthusiasm to vote for Paxton, either. This is probably one of the least interesting elections.
TAMU1990
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More trans support
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Law-Apt_3G said:

Photos this week show American Airline center packed with Paxton supporters. Talrico support consist of a 2 year old photo with his #1 vegan supporter. Beginning to think she had to go home.
I do wonder how many fake Texas republicans are in attendance.

Is Dustin burrows there? Dade Phelan? Brad Buckley? I know John Cornyn isn't. They're every bit as fake as Cornyn.
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Danny Vermin said:

Sherrill in New Jersey is the perfect example of how Talarico would be. Lied to get elected and immediately went full DSA. Good thing he will never sit in that Senate seat.
This is what democrats are going to do moving forward.
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