Lol, now watch as everyone on the gerrymandering debate flips sides.

FU to everyone who thinks representatives should pick their constituents instead of the other way around.

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Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.

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More likely DeSantis punched himself and several incumbent Florida Rs in the face.

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When DeSantis took office the Dems had a Registration advantage of about 250k in Florida. Now the GOP has an almost 1.5 million registration advantage. DeSantis also built a massive GOTV operation in Florida. Anything can happen and DeSantis isn't on the ballot but Florida is going to be very tough sledding for Dems. Trump making Cuba into his little b***** doesn't hurt either.

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When DeSantis took office the Dems had a Registration advantage of about 250k in Florida. Now the GOP has an almost 1.5 million registration advantage. DeSantis also built a massive GOTV operation in Florida. Anything can happen and DeSantis isn't on the ballot but Florida is going to be very tough sledding for Dems. Trump making Cuba into his little b***** doesn't hurt either.

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Salient points.

So when will the SC rule on the race districts?

And when it get ruled on, what states will be able to redistrict and how many R seats will be gained if those states redraw?

Louisiana has two race districts, Mississippi has 1, Alabama has 2, is that correct? What other states have race districts? Looks like South Carolina, Tennessee and Kentucky each have 1 blue seat, are those race based?

That would be 5 flips if they (miss., bama, La.) redraw, will they redraw though?

Also want to throw in that Indiana could have added 2 seats but are weak AF, same with Nebraska who could have added one, think Kansas could have added one but they have a Dem gov I think

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So when will the SC rule on the race districts?

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Next opinion day is Wednesday, 4-29, but whether we'll get Louisiana v. Callais is anyone's guess.

Utah got one taken that will go back to red as well

BigRobSA said:

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Good!

I honestly don't understand voting Democrat anymore. It used to be that the Dems, as a party, were still pro-America (Hell, President Trump is an old-school Dem, and he LOVES America) but now they've been totally overtaken by the men-can-be-women, trans-story-hour, socialism-is-the-best morons that ruin everything they touch.

We need to prevent them from getting power.

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Liberals are pro-America. Democrats are not liberals.

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BigRobSA said:

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Good!

I honestly don't understand voting Democrat anymore. It used to be that the Dems, as a party, were still pro-America (Hell, President Trump is an old-school Dem, and he LOVES America) but now they've been totally overtaken by the men-can-be-women, trans-story-hour, socialism-is-the-best morons that ruin everything they touch.

We need to prevent them from getting power.

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Liberals are pro-America. Democrats are not liberals.

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The Dems have switched out the Moynihans and Humpheys with the AOC's and Sanders' and maintain nothing has changed.

Well, except that they got rid of old white dudes.

Crystal Ball House Ratings If the newly redrawn Florida map is approved

🔵 Democrats: 213 (-4)
🔴 Republicans: 208 (+3)
🟡 Tossup: 14 (+1) pic.twitter.com/5Zh83Huh3Y

— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) April 27, 2026

BigRobSA said:

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Good!

I honestly don't understand voting Democrat anymore. It used to be that the Dems, as a party, were still pro-America (Hell, President Trump is an old-school Dem, and he LOVES America) but now they've been totally overtaken by the men-can-be-women, trans-story-hour, socialism-is-the-best morons that ruin everything they touch.

We need to prevent them from getting power.

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Interesting breakdown regarding Trump and Democrats v. Republicans. I know there is footage of him from a few of the Republican national conventions in the 90s and 2000s as well. But he was never completely on the Democrat side.

From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750.

Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans.

Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.

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While Donald Trump donated $175,860 more to Democrats than Republicans from 1989 to 2010, his giving to Democrats significantly decreased beginning 2011.

Republicans received $630,150 in donations from Trump between 2011 and 2015, while Democrats received $8,500.

Trump was questioned about his previous political contributions to Democrats while on the campaign trail. During a June 2015 interview, Trump was asked why he donated to the Clinton Foundation and prominent Democrats, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.), and Obama White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

Trump replied, "It's smart. It's called being an intelligent person and a great business person. ... But the truth is that, you have to be able to get along withif you're gonna be a business person, even in the United States, you wanna get along with all sides because you're gonna need things from everybody. And you wanna get along with all sides, it's very important."

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I can't wait until all this redistricting being done by both parties blows up in their faces because they cut the pie too thin and end up dummymandering their districts.

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Then with voter ID and restrictions on MIBs the Rs will have a 20-30 seat majority in the house. Maybe more.

Trying to pretzel his to even a stalemate is being ignorant of the maps.

Dummymandering may be the stupidest term the libs have latched onto in a while… and it's not for a shortage or lack or trying.

Should go further honestly. Why are we content to just cancel out the Virginia and California bs? Gaining should be the goal not simply status quo

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Should go further honestly. Why are we content to just cancel out the Virginia bs?

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I don't believe it will stop, particularly with feckless senate Rs not wanting voter ID.

2026NCAggies said:

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So when will the SC rule on the race districts?

And when it get ruled on, what states will be able to redistrict and how many R seats will be gained if those states redraw?

Louisiana has two race districts, Mississippi has 1, Alabama has 2, is that correct? What other states have race districts? Looks like South Carolina, Tennessee and Kentucky each have 1 blue seat, are those race based?

That would be 5 flips if they (miss., bama, La.) redraw, will they redraw though?

Also want to throw in that Indiana could have added 2 seats but are weak AF, same with Nebraska who could have added one, think Kansas could have added one but they have a Dem gov I think

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From the SC thread a week or so ago. Think it's done
Leftist SC judge trying to slow announcement

The Ex Officio Director said:

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And there are those, who laugh when the phrase "The South shall Rise Again" is used. It might just be the south that saves this country from total marxist take over.

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Yep

Hate this crap.

Hate that non-citizens impact number of house seats.

Hate gerrymandering.

Hate modern politics.

Hate modern "journalism" and media

Blah

How is it the state constitutional topic is so hot in the Virginia thread but everyone is dead silent here where the Florida Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic? Heck, even if the VRA gets shot down, Florida's Constitution prohibits racial gerrymandering.

Republican incumbents (and their people) in Florida may be reluctant to re-district because their margin of victory may be peeled off somewhat AND/OR they might be getting packaged with other Republican incumbents.

Doesn't mean the Republican party in general shouldn't go for it.

Yes. Like the nervousness that not voting for the liberal John Cornyn could lead to electing radical anti-Christian Jane Talafreako in Texas. Utter nonsense.

Y'all shouldn't have started down this path.

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How is it the state constitutional topic is so hot in the Virginia thread but everyone is dead silent here where the Florida Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic? Heck, even if the VRA gets shot down, Florida's Constitution prohibits racial gerrymandering.

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It's a great thing they aren't racial gerrymandering then.

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Lol, now watch as everyone on the gerrymandering debate flips sides.

FU to everyone who thinks representatives should pick their constituents instead of the other way around.

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Your tone sure has changed since the Virginia thread.

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No it hasn't. I haven't ever supported gerrymandering from either tribe. Is reading hard for you?

Eric doesn't know wtf he's talking about when it comes to SCOTUS.

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Dan Carlin said:

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Lol, now watch as everyone on the gerrymandering debate flips sides.

FU to everyone who thinks representatives should pick their constituents instead of the other way around.

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Your tone sure has changed since the Virginia thread.

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No it hasn't. I haven't ever supported gerrymandering from either tribe. Is reading hard for you?

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I like this bit of yours where you pretend to be neutral by only attacking one "tribe".

Actually, "gerrymandering" has been around since the early 1800s and almost since our inception.

Fun fact: The term "gerrymander" stems from this Gilbert Stuart cartoon of a Massachusetts electoral district twisted beyond all reason. Stuart thought the shape of the district resembled a salamander, but his friend who showed him the original map called it a "Gerry-mander" after Massachusetts Governor Elbridge Gerry, who approved rearranging district lines for political advantage.



The practice of manipulating voting districts to secure political power predates the fearsome Gerry-mander. In 18th-century England, political operatives created "rotten boroughs" with only a few eligible voters, making it easy for politicians to buy the residents' votes and gain seats in Parliament.

After English colonists founded the United States, gerrymandering "began almost immediately," says Thomas Hunter, a political science professor at the University of West Georgia. There's evidence that Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina drew districts to benefit some candidates over others in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. Still, these gerrymandered districts were relatively "normal"-looking compared to what would come later.

https://www.history.com/articles/gerrymandering-origins-voting

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Eric doesn't know wtf he's talking about when it comes to SCOTUS.

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Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer says reliable sources have told him the US Supreme Court has decided to gut Section 2 of the VRA Via The Huddle

“I have been told by reliable sources that that decision is done” pic.twitter.com/Ras9Sh7ny4

— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) April 16, 2026

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2026NCAggies said:

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So when will the SC rule on the race districts?

And when it get ruled on, what states will be able to redistrict and how many R seats will be gained if those states redraw?

Louisiana has two race districts, Mississippi has 1, Alabama has 2, is that correct? What other states have race districts? Looks like South Carolina, Tennessee and Kentucky each have 1 blue seat, are those race based?

That would be 5 flips if they (miss., bama, La.) redraw, will they redraw though?

Also want to throw in that Indiana could have added 2 seats but are weak AF, same with Nebraska who could have added one, think Kansas could have added one but they have a Dem gov I think

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From the SC thread a week or so ago. Think it's done
Leftist SC judge trying to slow announcement

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So with Florida 4. You could add 9. through South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and Utah.

13 flips

Doubt all those states would redraw. I think at least Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama. That's 9 flips

Also Virginia ain't out of the woods yet. They still have to get approved by Virginia SC and main US SC

Rs still have a chance to keep house. Would be funny AF if they do

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How is it the state constitutional topic is so hot in the Virginia thread but everyone is dead silent here where the Florida Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic? Heck, even if the VRA gets shot down, Florida's Constitution prohibits racial gerrymandering.

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It's a great thing they aren't racial gerrymandering then.

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You and the 6 people that starred you just showed the ignorance I'm talking g about. I said Florida's Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic. Florida's Constitution explicitly prohibits drawing districts with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent.

Edit to add: and that's why gutting the VRA has no bearing on this situation.

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But he tit-for-tat favors Rs as long as the Rs find their missing balls.

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The Rs have a LOT more congressional seats they could gerrymander than the Dems do. The Dems already blew their load years ago...

Which is why the Dems are REEEEING so loud right now. They realize that the Rs are going to catch up to them and they're pissed/scared...

Exactly. Blue star for you.

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How is it the state constitutional topic is so hot in the Virginia thread but everyone is dead silent here where the Florida Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic? Heck, even if the VRA gets shot down, Florida's Constitution prohibits racial gerrymandering.

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It's a great thing they aren't racial gerrymandering then.

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You and the 6 people that starred you just showed the ignorance I'm talking g about. I said Florida's Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic. Florida's Constitution explicitly prohibits drawing districts with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent.

Edit to add: and that's why gutting the VRA has no bearing on this situation.

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Cool, thanks for the weird hypothetical that won't be necessary because DeSantis is changing the map before the VRA gets overturned anyways. It would be great if we had no gerrymandering but your party started the nightmare a long time ago with places like Illinois, Mass., and Maryland, republicans have no choice but to try and undo what the Dems have already done.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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How is it the state constitutional topic is so hot in the Virginia thread but everyone is dead silent here where the Florida Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic? Heck, even if the VRA gets shot down, Florida's Constitution prohibits racial gerrymandering.

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It's a great thing they aren't racial gerrymandering then.

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You and the 6 people that starred you just showed the ignorance I'm talking g about. I said Florida's Constitution couldn't be clearer on this topic. Florida's Constitution explicitly prohibits drawing districts with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent.

Edit to add: and that's why gutting the VRA has no bearing on this situation.

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Cool..

And Virginia didn't follow their rules when they did THEIR "dummymandering"...

The Ex Officio Director said:

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And there are those, who laugh when the phrase "The South shall Rise Again" is used. It might just be the south that saves this country from total marxist take over.

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Anyone that does is showing their ignorance or are 75+ years behind the times. Fun fact: the 11 states of the Old CSA would be the 3rd largest eco on the planet with a 2025 GDP of $10.5T, after China and the rest of the US. #4, India would be way behind at $5T.

Amazing that this late in the game people still express this sort of idiocy.