DeSantis About To Cancel Out Virginia Redistricting!

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11:16a, 4/27/26
This is the way! The red states have the upper hand here. If the VRA gets knocked down from SCOTUS, it will be euphoric!

The current map is 20-8. This brings it to 24-4. Cancels out VA's four-seat gain.

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11:19a, 4/27/26
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Good.

I'm glad there are still Republicans who are willing to fight this instead of sitting back and taking it.
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11:20a, 4/27/26
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There is actual nervousness in the Florida GOP ranks that this could backfire in a big way.



https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/state/2026/03/27/gop-congress-members-nervous-that-redistricting-could-backfire-on-them/89329760007/

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Florida Republicans worried about congressional redistricting
The governor's redistricting push 'could put incumbent (GOP) members at risk,' one veteran lawmaker said.

Florida Democrats flipping a pair of state legislative seats in special elections are sparking anxiety among some Republican members of Congress over Gov. Ron DeSantis' redistricting plans.
U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster, an Orlando Republican who's been in Congress 15 years after serving as a Florida House speaker and state senator, raised the loudest alarm.

"Don't do it, I've said it from the beginning," Webster told Punchbowl News about DeSantis' congressional redistricting effort, which will be the subject of an April 20-24 special session of the state Legislature. "I've been around enough reapportionments to know it's a slippery slope."
He wasn't alone.

"I think the Legislature needs to be very cognizant of the fact that if they get too aggressive … you could put incumbent members at risk," said U.S. Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota.

GOP worries heightened by Democrat wins in special elections
Florida Republicans in Congress have worried for a while about DeSantis' redistricting push, fearing that it would shift GOP voters out of their districts into neighboring ones to make Democratic seats more likely to flip.

But reworking congressional lines could result in what experts call a "dummymander," where in the attempt to gerrymander districts more to its liking, a party actually loses seats.

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11:20a, 4/27/26
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Cowboy up, Temu Obama!
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11:20a, 4/27/26
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Now do Texas like that.

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11:21a, 4/27/26
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Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.
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11:33a, 4/27/26
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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In reply to Windy City Ag • 11:38a, 4/27/26
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Windy City Ag said:
There is actual nervousness in the Florida GOP ranks that this could backfire in a big way.

There is a risk of that happening anywhere, not just Florida. But as long as the Democrats keep pushing the envelope, there will be a response. But of course we only want to discuss the potential consequences when the Republicans do it.
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11:43a, 4/27/26
Good!

I honestly don't understand voting Democrat anymore. It used to be that the Dems, as a party, were still pro-America (Hell, President Trump is an old-school Dem, and he LOVES America) but now they've been totally overtaken by the men-can-be-women, trans-story-hour, socialism-is-the-best morons that ruin everything they touch.

We need to prevent them from getting power.
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In reply to Windy City Ag • 11:43a, 4/27/26
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Windy City Ag said:
There is actual nervousness in the Florida GOP ranks that this could backfire in a big way.



https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/state/2026/03/27/gop-congress-members-nervous-that-redistricting-could-backfire-on-them/89329760007/

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Florida Republicans worried about congressional redistricting
The governor's redistricting push 'could put incumbent (GOP) members at risk,' one veteran lawmaker said.

Florida Democrats flipping a pair of state legislative seats in special elections are sparking anxiety among some Republican members of Congress over Gov. Ron DeSantis' redistricting plans.
U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster, an Orlando Republican who's been in Congress 15 years after serving as a Florida House speaker and state senator, raised the loudest alarm.

"Don't do it, I've said it from the beginning," Webster told Punchbowl News about DeSantis' congressional redistricting effort, which will be the subject of an April 20-24 special session of the state Legislature. "I've been around enough reapportionments to know it's a slippery slope."
He wasn't alone.

"I think the Legislature needs to be very cognizant of the fact that if they get too aggressive … you could put incumbent members at risk," said U.S. Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota.

GOP worries heightened by Democrat wins in special elections
Florida Republicans in Congress have worried for a while about DeSantis' redistricting push, fearing that it would shift GOP voters out of their districts into neighboring ones to make Democratic seats more likely to flip.

But reworking congressional lines could result in what experts call a "dummymander," where in the attempt to gerrymander districts more to its liking, a party actually loses seats.



If congress rules soon on Louisiana vs Callais this isn't nearly as risky as it used to be. The VRA required minority districts so it made it tricky to protect them while still carving out reliably red distracts adjacent. With the VRA soon to be gone, diluting democrat votes in southern red states is much easier. Just need SCOTUS to get off their ass quickly.
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11:47a, 4/27/26
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Republicans on the Hill nervous about taking bold action? Say it isn't so!

"Men" with vaginas in the R party need to be removed. Most of the women have more balls than the men at this point.
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In reply to Gigem314 • 11:50a, 4/27/26
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There is a risk of that happening anywhere, not just Florida. But as long as the Democrats keep pushing the envelope, there will be a response. But of course we only want to discuss the potential consequences when the Republicans do it.


Karl Rove weighed in on it as well. The Florida risk seems more acute from the people that have really analyzed the data.

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"If Florida moves like it can, the Republicans will at least be even," he continued. "But there's a risk there, because what they're going to do is they're going to have to take Republican votes out of Republican districts and put them into Democrat districts."

Rove said this will "lower the numbers for some incumbent Republicans, and they may lose a seat or two."



I think what people are worried about is that Trump seems to be losing a lot of the coalition in Florida that helped him in 2024. Independents and some of the democrats who voted for him have gone blue again in huge way.

There are four seats specifically that political strategists think could be lost in the worst case.

It is not a layup by any means and Trump himself seems to be the issue.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/790357-poll-democrats-gaining-ground-key-races-tighten-in-florida-as-donald-trump-drags-gop/

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The Trump effect
At the center of the findings is a warning sign for Republicans: President Donald Trump is underwater with Florida voters, and pollsters say that dynamic could have ripple effects down the ballot.
Trump posts a net negative approval rating of 6.1 percentage points statewide, with particularly sharp declines among no-party voters, where his net favorability is 39.3 points underwater.

While Republican voters remain strongly supportive, the erosion among independents a critical voting bloc in Florida is significant.

"Trump is underwater on virtually every issue voters care about most," pollsters wrote in their analysis.
The data shows Trump struggling even on issues traditionally considered strengths. He holds a net negative 4.9 rating on the economy, with 43.5% of voters strongly opposing his handling of it.
His approval is also -12.7 on government spending and -13.6 on abortion. On foreign policy, including military actions involving Iran, he posts a -6.7 rating.

Trump's weakest issue in the survey is related to the Jeffrey Epstein files, where he registers a net negative 25.2 approval. Immigration enforcement policies, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids and mass deportations, are also viewed negatively overall, with a net rating of -2.7 statewide and -27.7 among independents.

Against that backdrop, Democrats appear to be gaining ground in broader voter sentiment. In a generic congressional ballot test which asks voters which party they would support without naming specific candidates Democrats hold a narrow edge.

"The Democrats' lead solidifies how deeply Trump's weakness is pulling down the GOP brand," pollsters wrote.

"Critically, Democrats hold a clear advantage among NPA voters, in line with Democratic performance among NPAs in recent Florida Special Elections over the last year and the Miami Mayoral and Boca Raton races, where Democrats flipped those two seats for the first time in 30 years. A deeper pain for Republicans is they have fallen below 90% vote support among their own party, and Republican defection (6.4%) far outpaces Democratic defection."


Polls . . I know . . . could be total bulls$%t but the number of flips that have already happened in Florida show there is something going on there.

So putting GOP incumbents in a less certain district during a time when the party is already losing seats is a gamble.




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11:50a, 4/27/26


This should help with any precedent concerns
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12:02p, 4/27/26
Let;s go
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In reply to Windy City Ag • 12:14p, 4/27/26
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Mid-term elections have always been an advantage for the non-incumbent party. This isn't news. The Democrats should probably further ahead than they are currently. The fact that they're having to game the system in VA to get more of an advantage may not be the 'blue wave' some of you think it is.
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In reply to Windy City Ag • 12:37p, 4/27/26
Windy City Ag said:
There is actual nervousness in the Florida GOP ranks that this could backfire in a big way.



https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/state/2026/03/27/gop-congress-members-nervous-that-redistricting-could-backfire-on-them/89329760007/

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Florida Republicans worried about congressional redistricting
The governor's redistricting push 'could put incumbent (GOP) members at risk,' one veteran lawmaker said.

Florida Democrats flipping a pair of state legislative seats in special elections are sparking anxiety among some Republican members of Congress over Gov. Ron DeSantis' redistricting plans.
U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster, an Orlando Republican who's been in Congress 15 years after serving as a Florida House speaker and state senator, raised the loudest alarm.

"Don't do it, I've said it from the beginning," Webster told Punchbowl News about DeSantis' congressional redistricting effort, which will be the subject of an April 20-24 special session of the state Legislature. "I've been around enough reapportionments to know it's a slippery slope."
He wasn't alone.

"I think the Legislature needs to be very cognizant of the fact that if they get too aggressive … you could put incumbent members at risk," said U.S. Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota.

GOP worries heightened by Democrat wins in special elections
Florida Republicans in Congress have worried for a while about DeSantis' redistricting push, fearing that it would shift GOP voters out of their districts into neighboring ones to make Democratic seats more likely to flip.

But reworking congressional lines could result in what experts call a "dummymander," where in the attempt to gerrymander districts more to its liking, a party actually loses seats.


Your propaganda game is weak.
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In reply to AozorAg • 12:44p, 4/27/26
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Useless post.

Try to address the detail rather than troll.
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In reply to Gigem314 • 12:49p, 4/27/26
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Gigem314 said:
Mid-term elections have always been an advantage for the non-incumbent party. This isn't news. The Democrats should probably further ahead than they are currently. The fact that they're having to game the system in VA to get more of an advantage may not be the 'blue wave' some of you think it is.

I do not believe there will be anything routine or normal for 2026.

Iran, assassination attempt(s), SCOTUS rulings, surely a false-flag summer of love event, America 250 celebrations, any incidents at the FIFA matches, and whatever the DOJ may cook up on their many investigations.

Looking at polls and projections at the end of April based on how the first 4 months have gone is an absolute fool's errand.

And lib behavior seems to indicate they are concerned vs Trump's continued cool demeanor.

Just sayin…
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In reply to Windy City Ag • 12:50p, 4/27/26
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Windy City Ag said:
There is actual nervousness in the Florida GOP ranks that this could backfire in a big way.



https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/state/2026/03/27/gop-congress-members-nervous-that-redistricting-could-backfire-on-them/89329760007/

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Florida Republicans worried about congressional redistricting
The governor's redistricting push 'could put incumbent (GOP) members at risk,' one veteran lawmaker said.

Florida Democrats flipping a pair of state legislative seats in special elections are sparking anxiety among some Republican members of Congress over Gov. Ron DeSantis' redistricting plans.
U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster, an Orlando Republican who's been in Congress 15 years after serving as a Florida House speaker and state senator, raised the loudest alarm.

"Don't do it, I've said it from the beginning," Webster told Punchbowl News about DeSantis' congressional redistricting effort, which will be the subject of an April 20-24 special session of the state Legislature. "I've been around enough reapportionments to know it's a slippery slope."
He wasn't alone.

"I think the Legislature needs to be very cognizant of the fact that if they get too aggressive … you could put incumbent members at risk," said U.S. Rep. Greg Steube, R-Sarasota.

GOP worries heightened by Democrat wins in special elections
Florida Republicans in Congress have worried for a while about DeSantis' redistricting push, fearing that it would shift GOP voters out of their districts into neighboring ones to make Democratic seats more likely to flip.

But reworking congressional lines could result in what experts call a "dummymander," where in the attempt to gerrymander districts more to its liking, a party actually loses seats.


There was some similar discussion here in Texas. The hangup is that in order to increase the number of R districts, D voters have to be moved from D districts into R districts, which reduces the margin of safety for those Rs. Some of the concern is that taking a 70-30 R district and making it a 55-45 R district can potentially put it in play for Dems if their voting base is motivated enough.

Bottom line is yes, it could backfire, and in the case of Virginia, just change the Rs to Ds and the same thing applies if R voters are motivated enough.
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In reply to Ryan the Temp • 12:53p, 4/27/26
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But he tit-for-tat favors Rs as long as the Rs find their missing balls.
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But he tit-for-tat favors Rs as long as the Rs find their missing balls.


Tit tats!

Wait.... huh?
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BigRobSA said:
flown-the-coop said:
But he tit-for-tat favors Rs as long as the Rs find their missing balls.


Tit tats!

Wait.... huh?

Are you more of a tramp stamp kind of guy?
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 12:58p, 4/27/26
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Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.

I backed DeSantis in the primaries. Still feel like It was the right call. Trump policies without the drama.
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12:58p, 4/27/26
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I guess the question is how could CA, NY, and IL gerrymander their districts? Who's gerrymandering totals will come out on top once all the smoke clears?
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In reply to rgag12 • 1:01p, 4/27/26
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I guess the question is how could CA, NY, and IL gerrymander their districts? Who's gerrymandering totals will come out on top once all the smoke clears?

The states you mentioned are already among the most gerrymandered districts in the country. They have nothing left to do.
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TacosaurusRex said:
rgag12 said:
I guess the question is how could CA, NY, and IL gerrymander their districts? Who's gerrymandering totals will come out on top once all the smoke clears?

The states you mentioned are already among the most gerrymandered districts in the country. They have nothing left to do.

Agree. They are pretty much out of runway in their respective states.
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TacosaurusRex said:
rgag12 said:
I guess the question is how could CA, NY, and IL gerrymander their districts? Who's gerrymandering totals will come out on top once all the smoke clears?

The states you mentioned are already among the most gerrymandered districts in the country. They have nothing left to do.
Exactly. CA and NY have been doing this for many years but Democrats only made it an issue when Republican led states started getting aggressive instead of sitting back.
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3:08p, 4/27/26
I can't wait until all this redistricting being done by both parties blows up in their faces because they cut the pie too thin and end up dummymandering their districts.
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Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.
More likely DeSantis punched himself and several incumbent Florida Rs in the face.
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DeschutesAg said:
Ag87H2O said:
Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.
More likely DeSantis punched himself and several incumbent Florida Rs in the face.
Are Republicans that are currently in super red districts going to love the new plan? Probably not because they won't be able to take it for granted and will have to go out and work a little harder to win. But at the end of the day, I expect DeSantis and the Florida Republicans will come up with a map that pretty much guarantees four new red seats.
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3:42p, 4/27/26
I fail to see the problem with this proposed swing...
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Ag87H2O said:
DeschutesAg said:
Ag87H2O said:
Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.
More likely DeSantis punched himself and several incumbent Florida Rs in the face.
Are Republicans that are currently in super red districts going to love the new plan? Probably not because they won't be able to take it for granted and will have to go out and work a little harder to win. But at the end of the day, I expect DeSantis and the Florida Republicans will come up with a map that pretty much guarantees four new red seats.
It's certainly possible, but there are some major obstacles in the way. I wouldn't celebrate yet.
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DeschutesAg said:
Ag87H2O said:
DeschutesAg said:
Ag87H2O said:
Lol. Hakeem Jeffries just got bi*** slapped.

You just knew DeSantis wasn't going to hold back on this one.
More likely DeSantis punched himself and several incumbent Florida Rs in the face.
Are Republicans that are currently in super red districts going to love the new plan? Probably not because they won't be able to take it for granted and will have to go out and work a little harder to win. But at the end of the day, I expect DeSantis and the Florida Republicans will come up with a map that pretty much guarantees four new red seats.
It's certainly possible, but there are some major obstacles in the way. I wouldn't celebrate yet.
There are ones for Virginia too.
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Gigem314 said:
Good.

I'm glad there are still Republicans who are willing to fight this instead of sitting back and taking it.

yes. the gloves are off. The modern democratic party is a lefitst socialist monster that must be crushed. the days of Reagan and Tip Oneill compromising over a drink are over. No trust. no compromise, gloves off.
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Personally IDGAF what incumbents think or are worried about, most of them are worthless.

Though I am a big fan of Bryon Donalds, even though I have been told emphatically that my political views make me a white supremacist…..

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